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3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
general mishka
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He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:25 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:59 PM)
That's Nazi tactics...over charging to get a plea deal

Nope, I was not saying they were overcharging. Plea deals put many criminals away in prison, and they often save lots of court time and money. They are often the best way to get to justice.

If they arrested all three for murder, and have this bombshell evidence, why do they need a plea deal from the video guy? Isnt the liberal community and family demanding justice?
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"Today, the GBI released copies of two warrants for Bryan’s arrest. One indicates Bryan caused the death of Ahmaud Arbery during the commission of a felony and accuses him of the false imprisonment violation.


In one of two arrest warrants, the GBI indicates William Bryan caused the death of Ahmaud Arbery during the commission of a felony and accuses him of the false imprisonment violation.

[Image: Murder-Warrant.png?w=420]


The other warrant indicates Bryan attempted to confine and detain Ahmaud Arbery without legal authority using a vehicle during the incident.


[Image: Confine-and-Detain-Warrant.png?w=420]

Photo of a second arrest warrant issued for William Bryan in the case of Ahmaud Arbery. (credit: GBI)
Reynolds said the GBI has a few more things to do before turning the file to the office of Cobb County District Attorney Joyette Holmes. He said this is the GBI’s 16th day of their role in the investigation."

https://tampa.cbslocal.com/2020/05/22/gb...ud-arbery/

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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:33 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:25 PM)
Nope, I was not saying they were overcharging. Plea deals put many criminals away in prison, and they often save lots of court time and money. They are often the best way to get to justice.

If they arrested all three for murder, and have this bombshell evidence, why do they need a plea deal from the video guy? Isnt the liberal community and family demanding justice?

If the third guy does a deal and gives evidence on the other two about their conversations and intents, it could make a murder conviction more likely to stick.

I am just suggesting it as a possibility, they have the evidence, I do not.

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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:34 PM)
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link to image: https://tampa.cbslocal.com/wp-content/up...576&crop=1

"Today, the GBI released copies of two warrants for Bryan’s arrest. One indicates Bryan caused the death of Ahmaud Arbery during the commission of a felony and accuses him of the false imprisonment violation.


In one of two arrest warrants, the GBI indicates William Bryan caused the death of Ahmaud Arbery during the commission of a felony and accuses him of the false imprisonment violation.

link to image: https://atlanta.cbslocal.com/wp-content/....png?w=420


The other warrant indicates Bryan attempted to confine and detain Ahmaud Arbery without legal authority using a vehicle during the incident.


link to image: https://atlanta.cbslocal.com/wp-content/....png?w=420

Photo of a second arrest warrant issued for William Bryan in the case of Ahmaud Arbery. (credit: GBI)
Reynolds said the GBI has a few more things to do before turning the file to the office of Cobb County District Attorney Joyette Holmes. He said this is the GBI’s 16th day of their role in the investigation."

https://tampa.cbslocal.com/2020/05/22/gb...ud-arbery/

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general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 06:32 PM)
v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 06:19 PM)
Murder.. is the intentional taking of a persons life...

As in you expected, tried to, ensured a person would die.... usually there is planning involved. That is murder...

Normally to commit a crime, there has to be 3 factors, care, consent and control... None of these factors are present in this case. He was simply filming either at the request of someone or looking to post something on your tube.

This is completely a circus trial... (insert clown music here)

My memory is coming back to me...it goes like this

In the course of a felony, if someone is killed, all participating in the felony are guilty of murder. So they found something on the phone linking him to the other two

How are they going to prove the video maker had felonious intent? What was the felony in a Citizens Arrest?

Anything short of a text showing he wanted harm to come to the kid, doesn't work

I doubt ANY jury will accept following the chase in a car amounts to felony false imprisonment. All it will take is one sane person on the jury to stop that
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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:37 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 06:32 PM)
My memory is coming back to me...it goes like this

In the course of a felony, if someone is killed, all participating in the felony are guilty of murder. So they found something on the phone linking him to the other two

How are they going to prove the video maker had felonious intent? What was the felony in a Citizens Arrest?

Anything short of a text showing he wanted harm to come to the kid, doesn't work

I doubt ANY jury will accept following the chase in a car amounts to felony false imprisonment. All it will take is one sane person on the jury to stop that


it was pre meditated yeah3
but dont worry they will stack the jury just like they did for zimmerfat and your boys will get off scott free
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general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:53 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:33 PM)
The independent investigator(s) that arrested these three men and the prosecutor(s) that charged them with murder are the only people that have all of the information of the coroners report and the angle of fire and the best information on the timing of the shootings. It was three shots fired. They are going to build a case based on the facts, it is telling that they did charge all three of these guys with murder, so they think the facts side with that.
Everybody that is saying what they think happened is not privy to the facts that the investigators and prosecutors have.

Let us see if the trial evidence is convincing of murder.

Until then all we have are a few facts and lots of opinions.

It will be an interesting trial. I doubt they would have charged these three with murder if it was going to be easy for their defense lawyer(s) to claim self defense.

Its not self defense, but it isn't murder. Its manslaughter, and the trial will determine voluntary or involuntary

The guy shooting the video? Murder? C'mon

They would really need something like a text ordering the men to shoot the kid. Which of course means, he would have destroyed his phone before giving it up willing to the police

No.
In Georgia it's murder NOT manslaughter.

Murder & Manslaughter Laws in Georgia

"Unlike many states, Georgia doesn’t divide murder into “first degree” or “second degree.” A murder occurs when one person kills another person with the conscious intent to take their life. An example of murder is when someone deliberately drives through a crowded crosswalk. Murder also applies when a person is killed during the commission of an inherently dangerous felony, even if the killing was accidental. The minimum sentence for murder in Georgia is life in prison, and the death penalty is possible if circumstances are severe enough."

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:40 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:37 PM)
I doubt ANY jury will accept following the chase in a car amounts to felony false imprisonment. All it will take is one sane person on the jury to stop that


it was pre meditated yeah3
but dont worry they will stack the jury just like they did for zimmerfat and your boys will get off scott free

The video guy already has his life ruined, the other two will probably serve maximum time for involuntary manslaughter.
All three are stupid, and deserve it

But the most stupid, is the dead guy
Being the most stupid, means you are six feet under
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Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:42 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:53 PM)
Its not self defense, but it isn't murder. Its manslaughter, and the trial will determine voluntary or involuntary

The guy shooting the video? Murder? C'mon

They would really need something like a text ordering the men to shoot the kid. Which of course means, he would have destroyed his phone before giving it up willing to the police

No.
In Georgia it's murder NOT manslaughter.

Murder & Manslaughter Laws in Georgia

"Unlike many states, Georgia doesn’t divide murder into “first degree” or “second degree.” A murder occurs when one person kills another person with the conscious intent to take their life. An example of murder is when someone deliberately drives through a crowded crosswalk. Murder also applies when a person is killed during the commission of an inherently dangerous felony, even if the killing was accidental. The minimum sentence for murder in Georgia is life in prison, and the death penalty is possible if circumstances are severe enough."

Thanks for the info, I didn't know GA had such archaic laws

BUT, I still cant see a jury seeing the video guy participating in a 'dangerous felony'
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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:44 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:40 PM)
it was pre meditated yeah3
but dont worry they will stack the jury just like they did for zimmerfat and your boys will get off scott free

The video guy already has his life ruined, the other two will probably serve maximum time for involuntary manslaughter.
All three are stupid, and deserve it

But the most stupid, is the dead guy
Being the most stupid, means you are six feet under


thru no fault of his own.
someone has to pay for that
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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:33 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:25 PM)
Nope, I was not saying they were overcharging. Plea deals put many criminals away in prison, and they often save lots of court time and money. They are often the best way to get to justice.

If they arrested all three for murder, and have this bombshell evidence, why do they need a plea deal from the video guy? Isnt the liberal community and family demanding justice?

"They" don't need a plea deal.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:48 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:44 PM)
The video guy already has his life ruined, the other two will probably serve maximum time for involuntary manslaughter.
All three are stupid, and deserve it

But the most stupid, is the dead guy
Being the most stupid, means you are six feet under


thru no fault of his own.
someone has to pay for that

'fault'? I don't know what he was doing in that neighborhood

stupid choices? of course, by all four

and all will pay, unless the prosecutors are so stupid like with OJ, and mess up the prosecution. In that case, just the dead guy pays
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general mishka  Wrote: (05-23-2020 12:00 AM)
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thru no fault of his own.
someone has to pay for that

'fault'? I don't know what he was doing in that neighborhood

stupid choices? of course, by all four

and all will pay, unless the prosecutors are so stupid like with OJ, and mess up the prosecution. In that case, just the dead guy pays


he lived in that neighbourhood, dipshit
get your facts straight before opening your mouth
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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:47 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2020 11:42 PM)
No.
In Georgia it's murder NOT manslaughter.

Murder & Manslaughter Laws in Georgia

"Unlike many states, Georgia doesn’t divide murder into “first degree” or “second degree.” A murder occurs when one person kills another person with the conscious intent to take their life. An example of murder is when someone deliberately drives through a crowded crosswalk. Murder also applies when a person is killed during the commission of an inherently dangerous felony, even if the killing was accidental. The minimum sentence for murder in Georgia is life in prison, and the death penalty is possible if circumstances are severe enough."

Thanks for the info, I didn't know GA had such archaic laws

BUT, I still cant see a jury seeing the video guy participating in a 'dangerous felony'


If not the felony charge of "criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment" then what charge do you say applies?


"William ‘Roddy’ Bryan claimed that he was not involved in the murder of Ahmaud Arbery,but this new video clearly shows that he hunted Ahmaud for more than four minutes prior to his death.


While he may not have pulled the trigger, he was clearly complicit, using his vehicle to stalk, threaten and trap Ahmaud for execution,” attorney Crump concluded."

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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
general mishka  Wrote: (05-23-2020 12:00 AM)
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thru no fault of his own.
someone has to pay for that

'fault'? I don't know what he was doing in that neighborhood

stupid choices? of course, by all four

and all will pay, unless the prosecutors are so stupid like with OJ, and mess up the prosecution. In that case, just the dead guy pays

So you're a bigot, damn GM I never new that about you...do now though
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