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Calmdown to Brexit
Pinguu
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01-27-2018 03:39 PM

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Post: #16
RE: Calmdown to Brexit
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•REC⁴  Wrote: (01-27-2018 01:41 PM)
Pinguu  Wrote: (01-27-2018 11:48 AM)
If there is another referendum do you not think it would be fixed this time...

There would be civil war.....Seriously people would get murdered...

Who wants that....only sickos

I'm sure leave voters would accept the results without resorting to violence. Just as remain have.

If they get shafted, i say all bets are off.

Never believe anything until it has been fully denied.
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•REC⁴
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01-27-2018 04:07 PM

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Post: #17
RE: Calmdown to Brexit
Pinguu  Wrote: (01-27-2018 03:35 PM)
Do like being controlled..?

I like the idea of being prosperous.

I like the idea of being able to live, work and travel wherever I like like.

I like the idea of being able to trade with Europeans, as I trade with British.

The bad could have been resolved without losing the benefits to British citizens but that is no longer possible.

And the Europeans will now integrate further without us , becoming our competitors rather than our allies.
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•REC⁴
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Post: #18
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Scots, Welsh and Irish give up some sovereignty for the benefits of belonging to the British Union. English see themselves as above this.
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Monk-1
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01-27-2018 04:37 PM

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Post: #19
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•REC⁴  Wrote: (01-27-2018 04:15 PM)
Scots, Welsh and Irish give up some sovereignty for the benefits of belonging to the British Union. English see themselves as above this.

The brits see themselves as above all others on the continent. They did not give up anything. It was taken from them. Half of them are still packed into ghettos, and had puppet regimes installed.
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Pinguu
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•REC⁴  Wrote: (01-27-2018 04:15 PM)
Scots, Welsh and Irish give up some sovereignty for the benefits of belonging to the British Union. English see themselves as above this.

It’s not like that....Why would you want to have laws made for every country in Europe by one massive faceless group...Europe proved over the years they were happy to take our massive financial input but not interested in our concerns if we ever stood up to their full inergration plan...

Freedom of movement is fine as long as every state is equal....When it was just UK, Spain, Germany, France, Italy, The Netherlands and a few others it worked fine as we all had similar standards of living so we could work there they worked here and immigration was about 30,000.00 a year.

Then wallop Tony Blair came in allowed huge immigration up to 350.000,00 a year which has gone on over 15 or more years now....It’s a piss take....Wages have dropped or stayed the same since the late 90s....That isn’t right when house prices and rents ,food, essentials like power, heating, fuel ...everything has become so expensive due to inflation...

We need immigration everyone knows that...It just needs to be accounted for and kept in check until those that come can assimilate and stop allowing themselves to be treated like slaves and working for a pittance....Big companies and multi nationals love cheap labour and immigration on a massive scale provides it...

Anyway it’s bullshit....I had a project in Brussels worth 120k a few years ago and to get permits and paperwork for my operatives and equipment took months...No such thing as freedom of movement and working where you want...so that was all bollocks..

We worked at Disneyland Paris and a stadium in Holland and both those were also a mess of paperwork before we could get guys out there....to do the work....In fact I remember getting so pissed with it all we took a gamble on one payment and came back on the ferry with 50k in our car...

I tried to buy some specialist Rhine aggregate from Germany 2 years ago ...Absolute nightmare....import licences, taxes...red tape...Euro costs for this and that...Again a total minefield of crap..

You don’t have a scooby REC.

Never believe anything until it has been fully denied.
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Monk-1
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Post: #21
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Often by proxy regimes in other countries to get their ways.
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Monk-1
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Post: #22
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They are quite the bullies to anything they consider competition. That would be everyone.
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•REC⁴
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01-29-2018 01:30 PM

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Post: #23
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Roberta Metsola MEP
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1 hour ago

One of the most vocal backers of hard #Brexit has suddenly become an EU citizen of Malta...

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Piers Scholfield
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23 minutes ago

Government's Own Brexit Analysis Says The UK Will Be Worse Off In Every Scenario Outside The EU


BuzzFeed News has seen a new Brexit impact assessment, which says leaving the EU will adversely hit almost every sector and every UK region.


https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli....xbBb91nEJ
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•REC⁴
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Faisal Islam
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24 minutes ago

Trade Sec Liam Fox tells The Sun that Brexiters have to “accept the reality” that there are not the numbers in Parliament for hard Brexit.
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•REC⁴
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Pinguu  Wrote: (01-27-2018 04:40 PM)
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I tried to buy some specialist Rhine aggregate from Germany 2 years ago ...Absolute nightmare....import licences, taxes...red tape...Euro costs for this and that...Again a total minefield of crap..

You don’t have a scooby REC.

I sell products to Europe. Or I used before Brexit.

There is no import duty or vat for my customers. No customs paperwork for me to complete.

And the same for my purchases from the EU.

That market is now closed to me.
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Faisal Islam
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35 minutes ago

A Tory Single Marketer MP tells me re Tory Brexiters flexing their muscles: “If they are threatening a leadership challenge, then this new leader will find himself in charge of a much smaller party, and will effectively crash the Government”.

I took as a clear threat to defect if either Rees Mogg or Johnson were to become leader.
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Post: #28
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Faisal Islam
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1 hour ago

Govt draft Brexit impact assessment prepared this month... benefits from new trade deals 0.1-0.4% vs 2-8% costs.
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Brexit: Companies to be charged VAT upfront on goods from Europe in 'disastrous' blow to businesses

More than 100,000 UK companies will be forced to pay VAT upfront after Brexit, under controversial government plans being debated by Parliament this week.

At least 130,000 UK firms will be forced to pay upfront import VAT once Britain leaves the single market, under which import tariffs are not imposed on goods bought from other EU countries.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...46441.html
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Post: #30
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lisa o'carroll
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20 minutes ago

EU would be "extraordinarily generous" if the UK changes its mind about Brexit - Ireland's deputy PM
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