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Russia paid the Taliban BOUNTIES for killing US troops - Trump knew for MONTHS (merged.)
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You won't get too many replies because this forum is full of Trump-humpers.
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Post: #33
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This is highly unlikely, look at the source.

It seems to be more Deep State games using a media outlet that has been on the CIA payroll for decades to gin up support and funding for defense/intelligence/surveillance spending.

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"The US supplies weapons and trains the Mujahideen in the 80's to kill Russian troops. That is apparently ok. Now allegedly the Russians do the same to the US and that's not ok. I don't think the Americans have any cause to complain"
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1nf1del09  Wrote: (06-27-2020 07:35 PM)
"The US supplies weapons and trains the Mujahideen in the 80's to kill Russian troops. That is apparently ok. Now allegedly the Russians do the same to the US and that's not ok. I don't think the Americans have any cause to complain"

So you don't mind if a third county dumps afew billions on them.
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1nf1del09  Wrote: (06-27-2020 07:35 PM)
"The US supplies weapons and trains the Mujahideen in the 80's to kill Russian troops. That is apparently ok. Now allegedly the Russians do the same to the US and that's not ok. I don't think the Americans have any cause to complain"

I seriously doubt the entire premise of this story.

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Post: #37
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When you have people stating these are righteous kills of our soldiers than maybe these people that " stand with our troops" mean, beside their graves.

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look up 'proxy wars' - that's how the big powers have been
fighting each other for the last 40 years...
you find local malcontents or mercenaries of just about
any type - jihadis, warlords, tribal leaders, religious
leaders - you name it... you train, equip, and pay them
to fight whoever you want to take down, while keeping
your own forces in nearby countries... or you set up
your own puppet gov, army, and asassination squads if
you're running the show... same in every place we've
been for the last 50-60 years...
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What do you want trump to do bomb Russia? Yea right!

there is nothing we can do about it! nothing. You can't control others actions, learn that. Its really simple to understand!
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Strategos  Wrote: (06-27-2020 07:48 PM)
1nf1del09  Wrote: (06-27-2020 07:35 PM)
"The US supplies weapons and trains the Mujahideen in the 80's to kill Russian troops. That is apparently ok. Now allegedly the Russians do the same to the US and that's not ok. I don't think the Americans have any cause to complain"

I seriously doubt the entire premise of this story.

I was just pointing out the leftist double standard, I doubt the story too as it's from NYT with no credible sources.
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RE: Russia paid the Taliban BOUNTIES for killing US troops - Trump knew for MONTHS
You can always count on the DailyFail to reliably pimp the empires' narratives.


Although I'm sure some Taliban are highly-amused at having taken money and aid from both sides to fight in another US-Russia proxy war.


How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

by Jeffrey St. Clair, Alexander Cockburn, January 15, 1998

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire... https://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/...ujahideen/


Brzezinski Mapped Out the Battle for Ukraine in 1997

It's all about maintaining the US position as the world's sole superpower
by Chris Ernesto, March 15, 2014

Why would the United States run the risk of siding with anti-Semitic, neo-Nazis in Ukraine?

One of the keys may be found by looking back at Zbigniew Brzezinski’s 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard in which he wrote, “Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”

“However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.”

The former national security advisor to Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981 and top foreign policy advisor to Barack Obama, Brzezinski wrote that US policy should be “unapologetic” in perpetuating “America’s own dominant position for at least a generation and preferably longer still.”

Brzezinski delved into the importance of little known Ukraine by explaining in his 1997 book, “Geopolitical pivots are the states whose importance is derived not from their power and motivation but rather from their sensitive location… which in some cases gives them a special role in either defining access to important areas or in denying resources to a significant player.”

“Ukraine, Azerbaijan, South Korea, Turkey and Iran play the role of critically important geopolitical pivots,” he wrote in The Grand Chessboard, a book viewed by many as a blueprint for US world domination... http://original.antiwar.com/Chris_Ernest...e-in-1997/

The outrageous strategy to destroy Russia

by Arthur Lepic, 22 October 2004

Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter’s former adviser, embodies the continuity of U.S. foreign policy whether it is democratic or republican. A great admirer of Henry Kissinger, Brzezinski has always defended, praised and shown an absolute respect for the master’s two diplomacy concepts: the balance of the powers theorized by Metternich and George Kennan’s containment doctrine. Zbigniew Brzezinski recommends how Russia should be militarily weakened and intimidated. He is convinced that the best way to achieve it is by destabilizing its border regions, a political strategy that aroused the interest of former presidential candidate John Kerry’s team who recruited his son Mark Brzezinski as its foreign policy adviser... https://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html

U.S. Syria Representative Says His Job Is to Make the War a 'Quagmire' for Russia
By David Brennan 5/13/20 https://www.newsweek.com/us-syria-repres...ia-1503702
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Post: #42
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Strategos  Wrote: (06-27-2020 07:30 PM)
This is highly unlikely, look at the source.

It seems to be more Deep State games using a media outlet that has been on the CIA payroll for decades to gin up support and funding for defense/intelligence/surveillance spending.

It's being reported on lots of websites. I chose that source because there's no paywall.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/po...nties.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/...eport.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rus...r-BB162DJW

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To be led by a coward is to be controlled by what the coward fears.
To be led by a fool is to be led by the opportunists who control the fool.
To be led by a thief is to offer up your treasures to be stolen.
To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies.
To be led by a tyrant is to sell yourself & those you love into slavery.
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RE: Russia paid the Taliban BOUNTIES for killing US troops - Trump knew for MONTHS
There is no evidence that this ever happened, all the reporting on this stems from an anon intel source. IOW the same folks who brought you WMD in Iraq, the Gulf of Tonkin incident to spark the VN war, babies being pulled from incubators in Kuwait and dozens and dozens of other brazen lies to justify US elective wars.

Don't believe anything these spooks say unless they provide proof.

After all IT IS THE JOB OF THE INTEL AGENCIES TO LIE TO YOU! That is WHAT they do.
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RE: Russia paid the Taliban BOUNTIES for killing US troops - Trump knew for MONTHS
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/12768...72738.html

After Trump learned Russian military intelligence had put a bounty on the heads of coalition forces in Afghanistan, it's not that Trump did nothing. He did the unthinkable. He offered up substantial diplomatic rewards to the Russians & the Taliban.

He went against our allies to push for Russian entry into the G7. He tried to engineer a deal in Afghanistan that would be a win for the Taliban. He actively sought to help and elevate and empower those he knew were working to target US troops and those of our allies.

This is not, as some have suggested, merely a sign of weakness. This is not simply stupidity or recklessness. There is a pattern here. He has consistently tried to help Russia ever since they attacked America, attacked our democracy, to help him win in 2016.


Trump is a traitor who is working for Putin trying to destroy the US.

Choose your leaders with wisdom & forethought.
To be led by a coward is to be controlled by what the coward fears.
To be led by a fool is to be led by the opportunists who control the fool.
To be led by a thief is to offer up your treasures to be stolen.
To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies.
To be led by a tyrant is to sell yourself & those you love into slavery.
-O Butler
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RE: Russia paid the Taliban BOUNTIES for killing US troops - Trump knew for MONTHS
Hedwig  Wrote: (06-27-2020 08:48 PM)
Strategos  Wrote: (06-27-2020 07:30 PM)
This is highly unlikely, look at the source.

It seems to be more Deep State games using a media outlet that has been on the CIA payroll for decades to gin up support and funding for defense/intelligence/surveillance spending.

It's being reported on lots of websites. I chose that source because there's no paywall.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/po...nties.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/...eport.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rus...r-BB162DJW

Whats the original source? There's no link to "American intelligence officials".
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