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*** Natural immunity against COVID-19? ***
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*** Natural immunity against COVID-19? ***
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Several recent papers show that people can have their T cells respond to SARS-CoV-2 without having prior exposure. In other words, some of us might be naturally “immune.” The reason I put quotation marks around immune is that it is a cross-resistant immunity that occurs without prior exposure to SARS-CoV-2.

At the risk of being repetitive, the concept is that a given individual could be immune by virtue of the T cell response they show, and not necessarily have detectable protective antibodies. It is also possible for people to develop immunity that is only detectable via a T cell response and without antibodies as we will see below.

* How common is this natural “immunity?”

We do not know for sure but the estimates suggest a significant fraction of the population Three studies show T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in the range of 20%, 50%, and 80%.

One of the first of such studies suggested that 50% of samples collected viably from 2015 to 2018 (pre-SARS-CoV-2) had this reactivity.









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Maybe im one of them. Havent contracted covid since it started. Gloves and masks is my daily routine

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These studies are small but seem to consistently show nice T cell responses. Some of the samples used were collected way before SARS-CoV-2 was among us.

The findings of these studies might mean that we can reach a state of “functional herd immunity” with a fraction of the population being infected that is smaller than usually predicted.
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-30-2020 05:34 AM)




These studies are small but seem to consistently show nice T cell responses. Some of the samples used were collected way before SARS-CoV-2 was among us.

The findings of these studies might mean that we can reach a state of “functional herd immunity” with a fraction of the population being infected that is smaller than usually predicted.

Maybe?

The people with the T cell immune response are the asymptomatic cases. It has been recently shown that the majority of the asymptomatic cases do not develop lasting antibodies.

But if there's a different type of immune response then perhaps severe disease can be avoided? We just don't know. We do know that many people can and do catch coronaviruses over and over again.

Still a lot to learn about this thing..
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-30-2020 05:32 AM)
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Several recent papers show that people can have their T cells respond to SARS-CoV-2 without having prior exposure. In other words, some of us might be naturally “immune.” The reason I put quotation marks around immune is that it is a cross-resistant immunity that occurs without prior exposure to SARS-CoV-2.

At the risk of being repetitive, the concept is that a given individual could be immune by virtue of the T cell response they show, and not necessarily have detectable protective antibodies. It is also possible for people to develop immunity that is only detectable via a T cell response and without antibodies as we will see below.

* How common is this natural “immunity?”

We do not know for sure but the estimates suggest a significant fraction of the population Three studies show T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in the range of 20%, 50%, and 80%.

One of the first of such studies suggested that 50% of samples collected viably from 2015 to 2018 (pre-SARS-CoV-2) had this reactivity.










this is blatantly obvious. So obvious that if you required some expurt to point it out you must be mentally challenged.

some %, perhaps 80% perhaps 90%, of folks who contract covid show no symptoms or mild symptoms. Hence they have pre existing immunity.

To think that after evolving in an environment that perpetually spews out "novel" viral and bacterialogical variants and our only acquired mechanism for response is by acquired immunity specific to that variant is illogical, and defies reason. Quite the opposite must be true.

Hence this thread is stating the obvious.
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