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There is no one else, only God and yourself
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RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 07:42 PM)
God was so alone, he took on multiple roles. He played each role individually then put them all together at the end of time so he wouldnt feel lonely.

We are each of those roles he played. There is no one else besides ourselves

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Post: #17
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
Ludikrus  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:04 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 07:51 PM)
Or it could make us feel even lonlier ? Ive constantly looked for someone that could still teach me the secrets of life but cant find anybody that knows anymore than I already do.

I look around and see the world is only a reflection of myself/ourselves. We are all addicted to drama in some way, like a video game we fill it up violent distractions, also sex and pleasures

Yeah, I like to binge watch too. Only, I also like to look at how the 'video game' is made. It's vast...

...and without us imputing our own spirit into an avatar it will not play at all...

I'm thinking men and women pay too much attention to archetypes. Real or imagined. Relying on created authorities and powers to tell us what the world is all about. I didn't build it, but I'm also thinking those who control the 'game' didn't either.

And keeping people in ignorance by using faith as an authority has gone way too far...

I think about the Masonic Circumpunct. In my opinion its the entire space of reality. We live in a tiny circumference frame with reality rendering as we move about it. Like that video game character that moves from space to space but in reality its not moving a distance, each new scene is rendering

I used to joke with my friend during road trips, that parts of Nebraska , South Dakota was loading screens. lol
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Post: #18
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 07:42 PM)
God was so alone, he took on multiple roles. He played each role individually then put them all together at the end of time so he wouldnt feel lonely.

We are each of those roles he played. There is no one else besides ourselves

Feeling lonely would seem to rule out them being perfect.
But that would require being the tiniest bit honest about the information.
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Post: #19
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:19 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 07:42 PM)
God was so alone, he took on multiple roles. He played each role individually then put them all together at the end of time so he wouldnt feel lonely.

We are each of those roles he played. There is no one else besides ourselves

Feeling lonely would seem to rule out them being perfect.
But that would require being the tiniest bit honest about the information.

No but lacking in the feeling of loneliness would make them imperfect, no longer whole, complete and lacking in nothing. It would also mean there is something they do not know and therefor can not be all knowing.

The Godhead is the Tao and what is said of the Tao can be said of all ideas of Godhead.
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Post: #20
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
Also I would add that your assumption that perfection is a state without loneliness mirrors your own personal perspective on both loneliness and perfection, rather than the objective truth.
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Post: #21
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:33 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:19 PM)
Feeling lonely would seem to rule out them being perfect.
But that would require being the tiniest bit honest about the information.

No but lacking in the feeling of loneliness would make them imperfect, no longer whole, complete and lacking in nothing. It would also mean there is something they do not know and therefor can not be all knowing.

The Godhead is the Tao and what is said of the Tao can be said of all ideas of Godhead.

So God needs to be hungry?
And horny?
And vindictive?
And petty?

Because lacking something would make them imperfect?

Seems having everything as a metric for perfect would make contradictory a necessary part of "perfect".
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Post: #22
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:35 PM)
Also I would add that your assumption that perfection is a state without loneliness mirrors your own personal perspective on both loneliness and perfection, rather than the objective truth.

Perfect means it can't improve.
It's perfect
If having little pets was a thing god desired they certainly felt they could be better off and thus were not perfect
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Post: #23
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:16 PM)
Ludikrus  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:04 PM)
Yeah, I like to binge watch too. Only, I also like to look at how the 'video game' is made. It's vast...

...and without us imputing our own spirit into an avatar it will not play at all...

I'm thinking men and women pay too much attention to archetypes. Real or imagined. Relying on created authorities and powers to tell us what the world is all about. I didn't build it, but I'm also thinking those who control the 'game' didn't either.

And keeping people in ignorance by using faith as an authority has gone way too far...

I think about the Masonic Circumpunct. In my opinion its the entire space of reality. We live in a tiny circumference frame with reality rendering as we move about it. Like that video game character that moves from space to space but in reality its not moving a distance, each new scene is rendering

I used to joke with my friend during road trips, that parts of Nebraska , South Dakota was loading screens. lol

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Sometimes, using the illusion has its limits.. Rofl

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Post: #24
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:42 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:33 PM)
No but lacking in the feeling of loneliness would make them imperfect, no longer whole, complete and lacking in nothing. It would also mean there is something they do not know and therefor can not be all knowing.

The Godhead is the Tao and what is said of the Tao can be said of all ideas of Godhead.

So God needs to be hungry?
And horny?
And vindictive?
And petty?

Because lacking something would make them imperfect?

Seems having everything as a metric for perfect would make contradictory a necessary part of "perfect".

Perfect from what perspective? Your finite one, or an infinite one?

That is why the Toaists say that in the end nothing can be said of the Tao that is true. Because, any label you place on it, diminishes and limits it. Yes it would contain all those traits you listed, but it would also contain the opposite traits as well. In fact it is all things and possibilities and it's opposites and even simultaneously nothing. It exists outside of linear time and is eternal so it doesn't to play by the rules of finite beings and things.

People that like to believe in a all good God have a hard time thinking that God would also contain the dark forces and inclinations, but in the old traditions and even in the old testament it is pointed out many times, that everything that happens is the decree of God, both blessings and curses.

Not only the Toaist hold this position about the Godhead, so do the Hindu Brahman and the kabbalistical rabbi.

In the baghavad gita at one point Prince Arjuna laments that he must go out into battle and fight his cousins and uncles and said he could not, Krishna explains to him that if you have two men in the battlefield and one cuts the other down, do not lament, it is an illusion, because their are no men and no sword really, only Bramha.

The fact that the universal soul is the same one dwelling in all things, is the root of a great mystery about the true nature of karma and why Jesus told his disciples that what they did to the least of people, it is as if they did it to him. Because, in the end God is playing all the roles and what one finite manifestation does to another it does to own soul in another form and the very action committed is it's karmic punishment or reward at the highest spiritual level.
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Post: #25
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 07:42 PM)
God was so alone, he took on multiple roles. He played each role individually then put them all together at the end of time so he wouldnt feel lonely.

We are each of those roles he played. There is no one else besides ourselves

Which god are we talking about here?



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Post: #26
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 11:43 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:42 PM)
So God needs to be hungry?
And horny?
And vindictive?
And petty?

Because lacking something would make them imperfect?

Seems having everything as a metric for perfect would make contradictory a necessary part of "perfect".

Perfect from what perspective? Your finite one, or an infinite one?

That is why the Toaists say that in the end nothing can be said of the Tao that is true. Because, any label you place on it, diminishes and limits it. Yes it would contain all those traits you listed, but it would also contain the opposite traits as well. In fact it is all things and possibilities and it's opposites and even simultaneously nothing. It exists outside of linear time and is eternal so it doesn't to play by the rules of finite beings and things.

People that like to believe in a all good God have a hard time thinking that God would also contain the dark forces and inclinations, but in the old traditions and even in the old testament it is pointed out many times, that everything that happens is the decree of God, both blessings and curses.

Not only the Toaist hold this position about the Godhead, so do the Hindu Brahman and the kabbalistical rabbi.

In the baghavad gita at one point Prince Arjuna laments that he must go out into battle and fight his cousins and uncles and said he could not, Krishna explains to him that if you have two men in the battlefield and one cuts the other down, do not lament, it is an illusion, because their are no men and no sword really, only Bramha.

The fact that the universal soul is the same one dwelling in all things, is the root of a great mystery about the true nature of karma and why Jesus told his disciples that what they did to the least of people, it is as if they did it to him. Because, in the end God is playing all the roles and what one finite manifestation does to another it does to own soul in another form and the very action committed is it's karmic punishment or reward at the highest spiritual level.

Are you claiming to have an infinite perspective?
Because that would be funny.

If you can't say anything without "diminishing or limiting" why do you have so much to say?

Basically you're placing yourself as the mouthpiece of God.
The utter audacity of it should be appalling to actual believers.
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Post: #27
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:44 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:35 PM)
Also I would add that your assumption that perfection is a state without loneliness mirrors your own personal perspective on both loneliness and perfection, rather than the objective truth.

Perfect means it can't improve.
It's perfect
If having little pets was a thing god desired they certainly felt they could be better off and thus were not perfect

First you assume they're pets; ie something separate from god and not manifestations, something that is simultaneously at one with God.

Second you are thinking linearly. God was lonely, they created beings, god was no longer lonely and god "improved" which is a personal judgement on the state of loneliness by the way. God is eternal in all places at all times simultaneously. The beginning, middle and the end are all the same to God.

In Buddhism many sages in the end tell the student that their isn't really anyway to become a Buddha, because everyone are already buddahs; because the state of buddhahood is eternal. The trick is just getting people to realize they already are a buddah and then they can enter into that state of being.
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Post: #28
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 11:49 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 11:43 PM)
Perfect from what perspective? Your finite one, or an infinite one?

That is why the Toaists say that in the end nothing can be said of the Tao that is true. Because, any label you place on it, diminishes and limits it. Yes it would contain all those traits you listed, but it would also contain the opposite traits as well. In fact it is all things and possibilities and it's opposites and even simultaneously nothing. It exists outside of linear time and is eternal so it doesn't to play by the rules of finite beings and things.

People that like to believe in a all good God have a hard time thinking that God would also contain the dark forces and inclinations, but in the old traditions and even in the old testament it is pointed out many times, that everything that happens is the decree of God, both blessings and curses.

Not only the Toaist hold this position about the Godhead, so do the Hindu Brahman and the kabbalistical rabbi.

In the baghavad gita at one point Prince Arjuna laments that he must go out into battle and fight his cousins and uncles and said he could not, Krishna explains to him that if you have two men in the battlefield and one cuts the other down, do not lament, it is an illusion, because their are no men and no sword really, only Bramha.

The fact that the universal soul is the same one dwelling in all things, is the root of a great mystery about the true nature of karma and why Jesus told his disciples that what they did to the least of people, it is as if they did it to him. Because, in the end God is playing all the roles and what one finite manifestation does to another it does to own soul in another form and the very action committed is it's karmic punishment or reward at the highest spiritual level.

Are you claiming to have an infinite perspective?
Because that would be funny.

If you can't say anything without "diminishing or limiting" why do you have so much to say?

Basically you're placing yourself as the mouthpiece of God.
The utter audacity of it should be appalling to actual believers.

No I don't claim to have infinite perspective, but neither do you. I don't claim to be mouthpiece of God either. That is your interpretation.

I am just relaying the many ideas about the Godhead, outlined by many philosophers and sages through out the ages, who I wager have spent a great deal more time contemplating and wrestling with the idea of God then you, who seem to be pulling everything out of your own personal perspectives and opinions.
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09-15-2020 11:58 PM

 




Post: #29
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 11:53 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:44 PM)
Perfect means it can't improve.
It's perfect
If having little pets was a thing god desired they certainly felt they could be better off and thus were not perfect

First you assume they're pets; ie something separate from god and not manifestations, something that is simultaneously at one with God.

Second you are thinking linearly. God was lonely, they created beings, god was no longer lonely and god "improved" which is a personal judgement on the state of loneliness by the way. God is eternal in all places at all times simultaneously. The beginning, middle and the end are all the same to God.

In Buddhism many sages in the end tell the student that their isn't really anyway to become a Buddha, because everyone are already buddahs; because the state of buddhahood is eternal. The trick is just getting people to realize they already are a buddah and then they can enter into that state of being.

And you have a different assumption.

Mine is at least based upon actual human experience.

I don't need to pretend I have knowledge I couldn't have to try and inflate my posts with undue merit.
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Post: #30
RE: There is no one else, only God and yourself
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 11:56 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 11:49 PM)
Are you claiming to have an infinite perspective?
Because that would be funny.

If you can't say anything without "diminishing or limiting" why do you have so much to say?

Basically you're placing yourself as the mouthpiece of God.
The utter audacity of it should be appalling to actual believers.

No I don't claim to have infinite perspective, but neither do you. I don't claim to be mouthpiece of God either. That is your interpretation.

I am just relaying the many ideas about the Godhead, outlined by many philosophers and sages through out the ages, who I wager have spent a great deal more time contemplating and wrestling with the idea of God then you, who seem to be pulling everything out of your own personal perspectives and opinions.

So you're just a mouth blah blah blahing what other people wrote.

I guess that means there is no reason for me to deal with you.

I would need to speak with the actual authors to have any sort of meaningful dialogue. Not some parrot who can retreat behind "it not what I said" whenever they want.
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