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Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
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Quote: What Montagnier called the “elements” of HIV were short cis-acting elements that scientists had discovered in the genome of coronaviruses in 2005. They are required for genome replication and are shared by many coronaviruses. So if what Montagnier said is true, the whole family of coronaviruses – which originated over 10,000 years ago – would have to be lab-made, and this is obviously nonsensical.

Many experts have already pointed out this obvious flaw in Montagnier’s argument. As Étienne Simon-Lorière, a professor at the Institut Pasteur in Paris, said, “If we take a word from a book and it looks like another word, can we say that one has copied from the other? This is absurd!”

It is surprising to have a scientist of Montagnier’s stature utter such questionable statements – although Montagnier himself is a controversial figure. Among other causes, he has supported anti-vaxxers, homeopathy and a silly claim that DNA emits “electromagnetic waves”.

As he lost credibility among his peers, scientific agencies around Europe began to reject his grant applications, and eventually he was left with no money to pursue his ideas. In a 2010 interview, Montagnier said he was leaving Europe to “escape the intellectual terror.” He added, “I’m no longer allowed to work at a public institute (in France). I have applied for funding from other sources, but I have been turned down.”

In short, while the guy may have been brilliant 40 years ago, he has since turned into a kook that has lost the respect of the peers in his field.
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
Isabella  Wrote: (09-16-2020 12:25 AM)
What journal was Luc's "confirmation" published in and peer reviewed?
facepalm

Do you even read a post before you shite post, you really should get tested for some brain disease, you may have HIV Sars 3 Syphilis.

Again:

Luc: THAT, there are efforts to hide this story from the public.

We are only investigating this Virus.

A group of renowned Indian scientists published the same research, but were forced to withdraw their report.

Luc: I understand you,

you see it’s a time consuming process we have already sent our work for publication.

But I have already told you and I will repeat,

"there is a huge pressure not to publish these works."

Indian scientists write a report, he peer reviews it, as he is the peer above all others as the Nobel Prize winning authority and discoverer of the HIV virus,

then to get it published, it is censored, and withdrawn, by the pressure of FraudCI's.

Now soon we will get a copy of these documents and publish them everywhere, sorry mrs Fraudci.

Lmonkey
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
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Quote: What Montagnier called the “elements” of HIV were short cis-acting elements that scientists had discovered in the genome of coronaviruses in 2005. They are required for genome replication and are shared by many coronaviruses. So if what Montagnier said is true, the whole family of coronaviruses – which originated over 10,000 years ago – would have to be lab-made, and this is obviously nonsensical.

Many experts have already pointed out this obvious flaw in Montagnier’s argument. As Étienne Simon-Lorière, a professor at the Institut Pasteur in Paris, said, “If we take a word from a book and it looks like another word, can we say that one has copied from the other? This is absurd!”

It is surprising to have a scientist of Montagnier’s stature utter such questionable statements – although Montagnier himself is a controversial figure. Among other causes, he has supported anti-vaxxers, homeopathy and a silly claim that DNA emits “electromagnetic waves”.

As he lost credibility among his peers, scientific agencies around Europe began to reject his grant applications, and eventually he was left with no money to pursue his ideas. In a 2010 interview, Montagnier said he was leaving Europe to “escape the intellectual terror.” He added, “I’m no longer allowed to work at a public institute (in France). I have applied for funding from other sources, but I have been turned down.”

In short, while the guy may have been brilliant 40 years ago, he has since turned into a kook that has lost the respect of the peers in his field.

You wrote a quote but failed to include the link, why is that?

Then you go on to accuse someone based on what, assumptions?

He knows that Virus is not biology, it is not even cellular, and what it is destroys cell theory and germ theory straight away.

You people are like the flat earthers or even like the globe earthers, you can not have a discussion because you have to much of a vested interest in keeping your dogma of creationism in place, so put up or shut up.

Just show us the live Virus and we will forever end this issue, prove it was not a computer generated lab made artificially created simulation.

Show us the cellular pathogen, they claim they have liters and liters of the stuff, and they should at least have one drop or even one molecule,

but they do not, and they are never going to admit it or show it.

You keep on believing in your religious cult of the MASKHOLES, science is evolving and all Viruses and diseases are over, good luck with your barbaric medical sickcares that profit off of fear and desperation.

I guess Nobel wants his death prize back from Montagnier, chuckle
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
https://news.mit.edu/2020/hiv-genome-ben...cells-0511

HIV genome bends over backwards to help virus take over cells
Differently shaped RNA molecules allow HIV to express different genes from the same RNA sequence.

"The virus HIV-1 has a tiny genome. All of its nine genes fit on one single RNA molecule, and the organism’s entire library of genetic material consists of only 10 kilobases (for context, the human genome is around 3 million kilobases). But despite the virus’ small pool of genes, it is able to use a method called alternative splicing to produce many various proteins with different purposes. The RNA transcripts for these proteins are like individual words hidden in a wall of text, says Whitehead Institute Fellow Silvi Rouskin: “You cut and paste them [through alternative splicing], and then when you put them all together you have a sentence that makes sense.”

lol
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"Since none of the HIV’s genes even encode the cellular machinery needed to “cut and paste” RNA — it hijacks its host’s materials for that — scientists are still working out exactly how every HIV molecule is able to control where it is spliced. Rouskin and others hypothesized that the conformation, or shape, of the RNA molecules might have something to do with this process."

lol
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"heterogeneity of the HIV-1 genome as a whole"

the quality or state of being diverse in character or content.

an outstanding characteristic of both aids and covid-19 is the ability to rapidly mutate. lol
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 02:05 AM)
https://news.mit.edu/2020/hiv-genome-ben...cells-0511

HIV genome bends over backwards to help virus take over cells
Differently shaped RNA molecules allow HIV to express different genes from the same RNA sequence.

"The virus HIV-1 has a tiny genome. All of its nine genes fit on one single RNA molecule, and the organism’s entire library of genetic material consists of only 10 kilobases (for context, the human genome is around 3 million kilobases). But despite the virus’ small pool of genes, it is able to use a method called alternative splicing to produce many various proteins with different purposes. The RNA transcripts for these proteins are like individual words hidden in a wall of text, says Whitehead Institute Fellow Silvi Rouskin: “You cut and paste them [through alternative splicing], and then when you put them all together you have a sentence that makes sense.”

lol

In other words, we used punch cards, then we used tape, then we used a floppy disc, soon we just used magnets, but they were all just ones and zeros, a switch, a diode, you live or you die, but where the energy comes from,

this biofusion, must be the God particle, of which are made up of trillions of baby Jesus subparticles.

Proof, just take our word for it, god told us, but we do admit it was just a voice in our head, just trust us.

chuckle
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 08:12 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 06:08 AM)
It is correlated science that relies on citing each other back to one paper, that has gone missing, the veterinarian of patient zero.

Gallo claims: IT "has not been transmitted to a permanently growing cell line for true isolation and therefore has been difficult to obtain in quantity,"

But Gallo shares his discovery with Professor Luc Antoine Montagnier who was credited with providing the IT

So if he is the founding father of IT , then he could show us IT .

He is still alive and he has something to say about IT . and SARS2 Or Covid-19:






Professor Luc Antoine Montagnier confirmed -The virus was artificially created!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xcclaV2kDM
Professor Luc Antoine Montagnier is a French virologist and joint recipient with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the HIV virus.

Those inserts of IT that make is so scary.

So now they should be able to show us both of THEM .

But they will not.

Lmonkey

Enter submicroscopic infections theory.

To small to be seen with a microscope.

At the beginning 1970 they discover Reverse transcriptase.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_transcriptase

A reverse transcriptase (RT) is an enzyme used to generate complementary DNA (cDNA) from an RNA template, a process termed reverse transcription.

Well thats the theory at least.

This is the RT, in the RT-PCR process incorrectly called a test for Viruses like COVID-19

Whoops.


Bfart

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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 02:18 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 02:05 AM)
https://news.mit.edu/2020/hiv-genome-ben...cells-0511

HIV genome bends over backwards to help virus take over cells
Differently shaped RNA molecules allow HIV to express different genes from the same RNA sequence.

"The virus HIV-1 has a tiny genome. All of its nine genes fit on one single RNA molecule, and the organism’s entire library of genetic material consists of only 10 kilobases (for context, the human genome is around 3 million kilobases). But despite the virus’ small pool of genes, it is able to use a method called alternative splicing to produce many various proteins with different purposes. The RNA transcripts for these proteins are like individual words hidden in a wall of text, says Whitehead Institute Fellow Silvi Rouskin: “You cut and paste them [through alternative splicing], and then when you put them all together you have a sentence that makes sense.”

lol

In other words, we used punch cards, then we used tape, then we used a floppy disc, soon we just used magnets, but they were all just ones and zeros, a switch, a diode, you live or you die, but where the energy comes from,

this biofusion, must be the God particle, of which are made up of trillions of baby Jesus subparticles.

Proof, just take our word for it, god told us, but we do admit it was just a voice in our head, just trust us.

chuckle

^ paints rocks! lol
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 01:49 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 12:51 AM)
In short, while the guy may have been brilliant 40 years ago, he has since turned into a kook that has lost the respect of the peers in his field.

You wrote a quote but failed to include the link, why is that?

Then you go on to accuse someone based on what, assumptions?

He knows that Virus is not biology, it is not even cellular, and what it is destroys cell theory and germ theory straight away.

You people are like the flat earthers or even like the globe earthers, you can not have a discussion because you have to much of a vested interest in keeping your dogma of creationism in place, so put up or shut up.

Just show us the live Virus and we will forever end this issue, prove it was not a computer generated lab made artificially created simulation.

Show us the cellular pathogen, they claim they have liters and liters of the stuff, and they should at least have one drop or even one molecule,

but they do not, and they are never going to admit it or show it.

You keep on believing in your religious cult of the MASKHOLES, science is evolving and all Viruses and diseases are over, good luck with your barbaric medical sickcares that profit off of fear and desperation.

I guess Nobel wants his death prize back from Montagnier, chuckle

The quote is ridiculously easy to find if you spend more than 2 minutes researching the doctor. But fair enough.

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/...doscience/
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-15-2020 11:20 PM)
But the fact that the discover of HIV admits it is a computer simulation, an artificially created Virus is what created the blackout, and the misdirections.

hmm yes I know the power especially in California was unreliable at the time.

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Bump
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 05:59 AM)
Bump

I'll join you

Bump danfromthehills
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
I think the guy's probably wrong (and that's just my laymen's opinion, so w/e), but I'll bump it. We need more people to think outside of the box. If you read his wikipedia entry, you see plainly that he went too far toward scientific heterodoxy on other topics and now they want to pitchfork him.

Bump
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RE: Prof Luc Montagnier Nobel for HIV confirmed Viruses was artificially created
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 03:51 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-16-2020 01:49 AM)
You wrote a quote but failed to include the link, why is that?

Then you go on to accuse someone based on what, assumptions?

He knows that Virus is not biology, it is not even cellular, and what it is destroys cell theory and germ theory straight away.

You people are like the flat earthers or even like the globe earthers, you can not have a discussion because you have to much of a vested interest in keeping your dogma of creationism in place, so put up or shut up.

Just show us the live Virus and we will forever end this issue, prove it was not a computer generated lab made artificially created simulation.

Show us the cellular pathogen, they claim they have liters and liters of the stuff, and they should at least have one drop or even one molecule,

but they do not, and they are never going to admit it or show it.

You keep on believing in your religious cult of the MASKHOLES, science is evolving and all Viruses and diseases are over, good luck with your barbaric medical sickcares that profit off of fear and desperation.

I guess Nobel wants his death prize back from Montagnier, chuckle

The quote is ridiculously easy to find if you spend more than 2 minutes researching the doctor. But fair enough.

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/...doscience/

He kept a secret for decades, when he let it slip, they crucified him, the doubt is substantiated, but it is not going to change anything for those that cling to the barbaric medical practices and that they still need virtual blood letting and leeches to determine whether they live or die.

It also proves the USA has the worst health care and results of any nation.
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