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Karma works the other way around from what you think
Lakeofmarch
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Karma works the other way around from what you think
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Now, I don't pretend to know what you think, but that seems the best way to approach it.. I have heard many times, from various teachers of all sorts, that good things happen to good people, bad things happen to bad people, but after decades of not seeing it pan out that way at all, I've realized some more attention to the mechanics is well called for. As a human, each person is a precipitation of informational possibility into physical actualization, most of the time we all live in 'the cloud', but descend here to get a respite from its relentless laws. Tibetan Book of the Dead specifically mentions that souls 'fall' into a womb, that they fight reincarnation all the way but eventually lose the battle, get to see their parents going at it, and suddenly open their eyes and, well, they're floating in amnios. This makes some people angrier than it is pleasant to mention around the kids; the Chernobyl accident was caused by one particular soul furious to discover itself 10 weeks into a pregnancy.

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https://ultraculture.org/blog/2015/04/09...afterlife/

Anyway, once you're out in the conditioned world, and stuck with it, because you know perfectly, perfectly well that you can only get a pleasant afterlife through achievement of the goals and correction of the mistakes that made you end up wherever you did, you can try one of two routes. Either fight people, nature, and the inertia of moving bodies to make yourself strong, expecting to enshrine yourself on Earth or, at last resort, to buy your way into a higher heaven, or, if you're not up to such a harsh task, try to be gentle, not cause trouble, escape the notice of the powerful, and let the people around you walk all over you every day because you figure they must be better than your blasted little skeleton somehow. Those two possibilities are both extremely pagan, and the Romans/Greeks, or today every Third World civilization, understands precisely how the mindset works, with all good things pile on one side of the scale (Power), and all undesirable ones on the other (lack of Power). So far, so good. Karma means everybody does their thing no questions asked, Dharma more or less the same, filial piety blossoms.

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That, dear reader, is the point in time at which alien invasion happened. You can describe it as the Fifth Root Race, people who live directly under the power of the Lord of the World, which was originally a very real civilization in a now-dry lake in Central Asia, where the Tocharian mummies were found. Systems like the above weren't perpetually threatened by revolution and guillotines, they were not, and are not, decadent or doomed to fail or anything like that.. they ran a 30,000 year civilization without destroying the planet. Populations stayed small because conditions were so dismal, Truth could be widely disseminated because everyone understood they really might profit by it, and even oppression developed a gentle hand because systems of low friction let everybody had nice things. But when the invaders came, quite possibly at the Mayan calendar start date of 3114 BC, which matches the start of Sumer and Egypt in somewhat known history, things started going down in a big way.




Balance was overturned in favor of a society that lived on pillage. All the old ways were trampled under, humiliated, and turned over to fuel for the giant imperial machine. “When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” (-Frederick Bastiat). It was called the Kurgan invasion, think Conan the Barbarian, and Marija Gimbutas has been variously maligned for revealing that flagrant truth.. Eden was a state of mind, a location (several, in fact), and a way of doing things that kept the planet spinning smoothly and without regret for uncounted eons. You can trace this in Jared Diamond's "Collapse" as he describes agricultural civilizations that destroyed their landscape through plowing, or in Daniel Quinn's "Ishmael" going over the same ground, as it relates to the Garden of Eden and various hunter-gatherers. Gobelki Tepe is definitely in there somewhere.




https://jackdempseywriter.wordpress.com/...phe-cycle/
What does all this have to do with karma today? Causes and consequences! Letting the system stand ensnares everyone and continues to destroy the coherence of the soul machine.. stringing things along in such a way that more of Nature is devastated is answered by oppressed millions, living and dead, who know that is not the way forward. Helping is harming; revelation is destruction; to cure is to sicken. The Midwestern bible-bashing soil-devastating white-bread farmer ethos becomes (is revealed as) a death cult, and the plain facts of big-city life become a fractal abomination that drives people mad. Everything has to return, and it is returning, and the 'great reset' goes fascinatingly, impressively deeper than you thought.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2009/11/...desh-wells

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Post: #2
RE: Karma works the other way around from what you think
[ Trinket Noises ]

Many times, a properly executed Barrage of steel arrows, complete with viper sting, forms a prismatic wall of text which may be professionally known as a Karma. The reader can be professionally known as a Pincushion, which also works the other way from what you think.

When OP is a male (let the reader smile knowingly), I certainly expect their transition teams to practice diligently their “Must be tough” and “We have met before.”

Damn fine mez, OP.
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RE: Karma works the other way around from what you think
I believe that God is good and therefore there must be cosmic justice. But it's clear that there is no justice in the world of the living. The world of the dead is another matter.

Mark 8:36
Quote:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

An eternity is a long time. I'm already middle-aged and the average human lifespan I'm going to live will be over soon enough.

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I don't like the current state of the world though. Things have gotten really bad.

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Look at that theological intro read out by a robot voice.. these monstrous butchers are now culture heroes? I am particularly repelled by the ever-clearer awareness that Richard Dawkins is up to no good, never has been, and Britain entire considers it virtue to hide the most abominable crimes, selling it as 'urbane' and 'chic' and 'all the right parties are full of muffled screaming'.
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2020/09/u...table.html
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A taste for the grisly ran through the whole society, from the lowliest tradesman to the king himself. On May 11, 1663, Pepys made a passing reference to the king in his diary. Surgeons “did dissect two bodies, a man and a woman, before the King,” Pepys wrote matter-of-factly, “with which the King was highly pleased.” (...) Newton veered toward vegetarianism—he seldom ate rabbit and some other common dishes on the grounds that “animals should be put to as little pain as possible”—but such qualms were rare. Sages of the Royal Society happily carried out experiments on dogs that are too grim to read about without flinching. They had ample company. Descartes, as deep and introspective a thinker as ever lived, wrote blithely that humans are the only animals who think and feel. -Edward Dolnick, "The Clockwork Universe"
https://runesoup.com/2013/06/a-visit-to-...ome-tales/

Your only fear should be to stray from the Great Way.
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https://het-report.nl/het-report/
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Most people and especially occidentals, they think that Karma means something bad should happen to someone who we see doing wrong. No, that aspect of judgement is not for human beings but for Vishnu.

Actually, when we see someone do wrong to another, in the realm of Karma the person being harmed may deserve that fate, while the person who appears to be doing wrong may simply be doing the work of Vishnu.
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RE: Karma works the other way around from what you think
I don't think we are forced back. WE come back to finish.

Because our spiritual body took physical form to participate in creation on this plain does not mean we are being "punished".... From the other side we are able to take a larger look at what we created. WE then decide (often collectively with allies and teachers) how to adjust what we did and what we learned and experience an existence to teach us what we missed and/or what we need to understand. That is the Karma

Deep down each of us knows we do not truly die and our physical existence is just a blink of an eye in the larger scheme of things. Our preset agendas come to us like a stage setting , with a loose script, with sometimes new, but often reoccurring characters presenting challenges, abuses, rewards, victories and defeats. Our life ends and we asses the performance and decide a new setting to explore ourselves further.

Many of things that happen to us in our worldly setting as a collective we chose to experience , so even though we feel these things are happening without our consent in this physical setting, in our spiritual pre-life we had a rough idea of what was to occur, and had an understanding of those individuals who would be playing 'the bad guy and the good guy'

WE are hear because we wanted to be on the cutting edge of spiritual beings inside of physical reality. This does not mean there are not agendas, this does not mean there are not opposing forces, and that there is not under currents and hidden motives. What I described is a simplified understanding, to be better informed of a complicated process. Connect with your higher self and your true role has more depth.
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What do you die for?
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Consciousness is an engine. The spirit dwelling second-to-second in the consciousness envelope creates "doors" and "windows". We use those openings to then direct action in the physical world.

The window of door, once created is an opening FOR the physical world to engage or not. The Karma and problem is this "tuned portal" window or door permits that precise activity (subroutine) to flow IN EITHER DIRECTION.

What you sow is also what you reap.
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Kramit the Frog  Wrote: (10-01-2020 04:51 PM)
Most people and especially occidentals, they think that Karma means something bad should happen to someone who we see doing wrong. No, that aspect of judgement is not for human beings but for Vishnu.

Actually, when we see someone do wrong to another, in the realm of Karma the person being harmed may deserve that fate, while the person who appears to be doing wrong may simply be doing the work of Vishnu.

But in the end since Brahma is all. Then it is only Brahma harming or helping Brahma, so to who must the karmic debt be paid?

Each action at it's very inception sews and harvests the seeds of good and bad karma immediately, even if one must wait to die to see the other sides of the coins.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-01-2020 05:32 PM)
Consciousness is an engine. The spirit dwelling second-to-second in the consciousness envelope creates "doors" and "windows". We use those openings to then direct action in the physical world.

The window of door, once created is an opening FOR the physical world to engage or not. The Karma and problem is this "tuned portal" window or door permits that precise activity (subroutine) to flow IN EITHER DIRECTION.

What you sow is also what you reap.
Don Juan's instruction on the art of stalking and the mastery of intent depended upon his instruction on the mastery of awareness, which was the cornerstone of his teachings, and which consist of the following basic premises:

1. The universe is an infinite agglomeration of energy fields, resembling threads of light.
2. These energy fields, called the Eagle's emanations, radiate from a source of inconceivable proportions metaphorically called the Eagle.
3. Human beings are also composed of an incalculable number of the same threadlike energy fields. These Eagle's emanations form an encased agglomeration that manifests itself as a ball of light the size of the person's body with the arms extended laterally, like a giant luminous egg.
4. Only a very small group of the energy fields inside this luminous ball are lit up by a point of intense brilliance located on the ball's surface.
5. Perception occurs when the energy fields in that small group immediately surrounding the point of brilliance extend their light to illuminate identical energy fields outside the ball. Since the only energy fields perceivable are those lit by the point of brilliance, that point is named "the point where perception is assembled" or simply "the assemblage point."
6. The assemblage point can be moved from its usual position on the surface of the luminous ball to another position on the surface, or into the interior. Since the brilliance of the assemblage point can light up whatever energy field it conies in contact with, when it moves to a new position it immediately brightens up new energy fields, making them perceivable. This perception is known as seeing.
7. When the assemblage point shifts, it makes possible the perception of an entirely different world—as objective and factual as the one we normally perceive. Sorcerers go into that other world to get energy, power, solutions to general and particular problems, or to face the unimaginable.
8. Intent is the pervasive force that causes us to perceive. We do not become aware because we perceive; rather, we perceive as a result of the pressure and intrusion of intent.
9. The aim of sorcerers is to reach a state of total awareness in order to experience all the possibilities of perception available to man. This state of awareness even implies an alternative way of dying.

(...)

"Sorcerers say that in order to command the spirit, and by that they mean to command the movement of the assemblage point, one needs energy. The only thing that stores energy for us is our impeccability." -Carlos Castaneda, "The Power of Silence".

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Your only fear should be to stray from the Great Way.
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https://het-report.nl/het-report/
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Dust in the wind. All we are is dust in the wind.
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Must have said something right; the thread is suddenly pinned over a comment i made elsewhere.

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Very specific dust in a very specific wind, with very particular potentials, currents, charms, and discharges. People say the system is huge, empty, and rigged like that ever stopped anybody that mattered. It's how you play the 'game' which shows your stripes, and what you leave behind, and cultivate while you're at it, displays for all to see what kind of player you are.
https://www.amazon.com/Cities-Lightning-...0966020308

Your only fear should be to stray from the Great Way.
https://terebess.hu/english/tao/wu.html
https://het-report.nl/het-report/
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NS "Snow Crash", CC "Eagle's Gift"
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Karma: the direct result of action or inaction.
Without getting philosophical, it's simply consequence of either good or bad action/inaction.

Didn't have to read a whole page to get it.
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