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Figure this regarding covid and potassium/sodium hasn't been made obvious
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Figure this regarding covid and potassium/sodium hasn't been made obvious
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I've said this a few times since early in the year, but...

One of the factors is potassium and sodium balance, causing a form of "excitotoxicity", so to say (not entirely), but incorrect/damaging electrical activity.

Low potassium levels in COVID-19 disease
https://www.news-medical.net/news/202006...sease.aspx
There's a nice image there, with an typical example screaming about the related factors/problems. The sodium and the chloride excess.

Potassium deficiency (hypokalemia): Symptoms and treatment
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325065
"Potassium plays an important role in relaying messages from the brain to the muscles and regulating muscle contractions..."

https://www.livestrong.com/article/46848...eficiency/

Things like HCQ (as well as many other toxins such as MSG, medications, typical diets), make that potassium and sodium related metabolism worse, as more sodium is retained and potassium blocked.

The effect of 5-day course of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin combination on QT interval in non-ICU COVID19(+) patients
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...3620305288

"We could not find a similar outcome in the previous studies. Tett et al. reported similar results with chloroquine [16]. 3) Serum potassium level was lower who had QT prolongation >50 ms in comparison to whom QT prolongation <50 ms. 4) HCQ lowered serum potassium level and this may exacerbate hypokalemia. Hypokalemia per se with other QT-prolonging drugs can worsen myocardial repolarization."


Overall, that low potassium level is linked to a huge amount of systemic issues (many brain, nerve and heart issues, as has been commonly noted with covid patients).
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RE: Figure this regarding covid and potassium/sodium hasn't been made obvious
Doktor Blather?

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RE: Figure this regarding covid and potassium/sodium hasn't been made obvious
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Doktor Blather?

wut?

I bring only the finest quackery to every table.
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But yeah, the HCQ study, for instance there, and worsening potassium levels is why I've said on numerous occasions I wouldn't use that and I don't recommend you do. Address the underlying issues (such as that potassium imbalance), don't make them worse with toxins that are literally designed to make that worse.
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Also why I have no respect for the marketers and their attempted peddling of toxins such as HCQ or remdesivir.
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11-14-2020 09:23 AM

 




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While I'm at it, let's take a look at Azithromycin related effects and issues, composition.

Start with drugs:
https://www.drugs.com/sfx/azithromycin-s...fects.html

Gastrointestinal

Very common (10% or more): Diarrhea (up to 52.8%), nausea (up to 32.6%), abdominal pain (up to 32.2%), loose stools (up to 19.1%), flatulence (up to 10.7%)

Common (1% to 10%): Vomiting, dyspepsia, stomatitis

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Gastroenteritis, oral candidiasis, constipation, dysphagia/oral dysphagia, abdominal distension, dry mouth, eructation, mouth ulceration, salivary hypersecretion

Frequency not reported: Pseudomembranous colitis, pancreatitis, tongue discoloration, melena, enteritis, abnormal stools, gastrointestinal disorder

Postmarketing reports: Pyloric stenosis[Ref]
Hematologic

Common (1% to 10%): Decreased lymphocyte, hematocrit, hemoglobin, or neutrophil count, increased eosinophil count, increased platelets, hematocrit, lymphocytes, basophils, monocytes, or neutrophils

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Leukopenia, neutropenia/mild neutropenia, eosinophilia

Frequency not reported: Thrombocytopenia, anemia/hemolytic anemia, decreased platelets[Ref]
Nervous system

Common (1% to 10%): Headache, dizziness, paresthesia, dysgeusia

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Somnolence, hypesthesia

Frequency not reported: Syncope, convulsion, anosmia, ageusia, parosmia, vertigo, myasthenia gravis, taste perversion, hyperkinesia

Postmarketing reports: Hyperactivity[Ref]
Local

Common (1% to 10%): Injection site pain, infection, edema, reactions or inflammation[Ref]
Other

Common (1% to 10%): Deafness, fatigue

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Candidiasis, ear disorder, asthenia, malaise, face edema, pyrexia, pain, post procedural complications, hearing disturbances/impairment, tinnitus, laboratory abnormalities, fungal or bacterial infection

Frequency not reported: Psychomotor hyperactivity, mucositis, fever, chills, otitis media

Postmarketing reports: Hearing loss, taste/smell perversion and/or loss[Ref]
Dermatologic

Common (1% to 10%): Rash, pruritus

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Photosensitivity reaction, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, urticaria, dermatitis, dry skin, hyperhidrosis, eczema

Very rare (less than 0.01%): Drug reaction of eosinophilia and systemic symptoms (DRESS)

Frequency not reported: toxic epidermal necrolysis, erythema multiforme, fungal dermatitis, sweating, vesiculobullous rash, maculopapular rash[Ref]
Metabolic

Common (1% to 10%): Decreased blood bicarbonate, anorexia

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Abnormal sodium, increased blood alkaline phosphatase, bicarbonate, or chloride

Frequency not reported: Increased lactate dehydrogenase, decreased sodium or potassium

Postmarketing reports: Dehydration[Ref]
Respiratory

Common (1% to 10%): Dyspnea

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Pneumonia, pharyngitis, rhinitis, respiratory disorder, epistaxis

Frequency not reported: Bronchospasm, cough, pleural effusion, asthma, bronchitis[Ref]
Musculoskeletal

Common (1% to 10%): Arthralgia

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Osteoarthritis, myalgia, back pain, neck pain

Frequency not reported: Increased creatine phosphokinase[Ref]
Genitourinary

Common (1% to 10%): Vaginitis/vaginal infection

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Dysuria, metrorrhagia, testicular disorder[Ref]
Hypersensitivity

Common (1% to 10%): Allergic reaction

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Angioedema, hypersensitivity

Frequency not reported: Anaphylactic reaction/anaphylaxis

Postmarketing reports: Fatal anaphylaxis[Ref]
Ocular

Common (1% to 10%): Visual impairment

Frequency not reported: Conjunctivitis[Ref]
Hepatic

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Hepatitis, increased AST, ALT, GGT, or blood bilirubin

Rare (0.01% to 0.1%): Abnormal liver function tests, cholestatic jaundice

Frequency not reported: Hepatic failure/fatal hepatic failure, fulminant hepatitis, hepatic necrosis[Ref]
Cardiovascular

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Palpitations, hot flush, edema, chest pain, peripheral edema

Frequency not reported: Torsades de pointes, arrhythmia, ECG QT prolonged, hypotension, ventricular tachycardia[Ref]
Psychiatric

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Nervousness, insomnia

Rare (0.01% to 0.1%): Agitation

Frequency not reported: Aggression/aggressive reaction, anxiety, delirium, hallucination, emotional lability, irritability, hostility[Ref]
Renal

Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Renal pain, increased blood urea nitrogen and creatinine

Frequency not reported: Acute renal failure, interstitial nephritis/nephritis[Ref]
Immunologic

Frequency not reported: Moniliasis, flu syndrome[Ref]

Azithromycin-induced liver injury
https://academic.oup.com/ajhp/article/67/10/810/5129915

So it obviously has hepatoxic (and by extension haemotoxic) properties. Those also relate to say, kidney and heart damage and a whole shitload of toxic effects.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azithromycin

"Occasionally, people have developed cholestatic hepatitis or delirium. Accidental intravenous overdose in an infant caused severe heart block, resulting in residual encephalopathy.[29][30]

In 2013 the FDA issued a warning that azithromycin "can cause abnormal changes in the electrical activity of the heart that may lead to a potentially fatal irregular heart rhythm." The FDA noted in the warning a 2012 study that found the drug may increase the risk of death, especially in those with heart problems, compared with those on other antibiotics such as amoxicillin or no antibiotic. The warning indicated people with preexisting conditions are at particular risk, such as those with QT interval prolongation, low blood levels of potassium or magnesium, a slower than normal heart rate, or those who use certain drugs to treat abnormal heart rhythms.[31][32][33] "

Just to make it clear, the people who have been advertising, using HCQ, azithromycin are often a combination of incompetent, ill-informed, negligent, malicious and marketers.
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Hydroxychloroquine does not help patients hospitalized with COVID-19: study
by Vanderbilt University Medical Center

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-h...ovid-.html

"Having a rigorously designed clinical trial that captured patient-centered, clinically meaningful outcomes was critical to reaching the unequivocal conclusions about the use of hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19," said James P. Kiley, Ph.D., director, Division of Lung Diseases at NHLBI.

"ORCHID shows that hydroxychloroquine does not improve clinical outcomes in hospitalized COVID-19 patients," Kiley said. "We hope this clear result will help practitioners make informed treatment decisions and researchers continue their efforts pursuing other possible safe and effective treatments for patients suffering with this disease."
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I have just dosed myself with potassium citrate powder mixed in orange juice, not because of covid but because I'm chronically low.

60% of my daily potassium need has just been ingested, that is a WHOPPING potassium dose that I badly need.

AND I got an EXTRA jar for free, from Amazon. So I have 100 doses available, at 30% of rda per tiny scoop.

Waiting for my super energetic powers to return. I bet a LOT of people are chronically low on this vital ELECTRO Lyte. I have electrical bananas too.

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Medical doctors seem to care NOTHING about your diet. They don't even ask you about your diet, or consider that you might have a nutritional deficit. It doesn't even cross their minds! It's just Big Pharma solutions for EVERYTHING! Here's another prescription.

Yet when you take your pet to the vet, the FIRST thing they ask is "what are you feeding him?"

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RE: Figure this regarding covid and potassium/sodium hasn't been made obvious
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Doktor Blather?

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RE: Figure this regarding covid and potassium/sodium hasn't been made obvious
PopEye  Wrote: (11-15-2020 12:41 PM)
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Doktor Blather?

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Yes, it's doktor blather with it's latest User IDs:

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What's the difference?

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Popeye...

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I might have to go to AE with that...
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