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SETI Dish Will Be Demolished
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-19-2020 09:00 PM)
Fire their family, Trump.

Cuomo and bloomberg are prolly major share holders.
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Anyone who has read Cixin Liu's "Three Body Problem" has a pretty good idea of why the Chinese want to get rid of this telescope and make sure they have the only other one like it.
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why was the dish allowed to fall into such disrepair?

My guess is lack of funding played a part. If I remember correctly, Obama gutted NASA a few years back.

Also, the telescope was simply...old. I'm impressed it lasted as long as it did, 50 years.

"For months there were warnings that if the presidential election dragged on past election day, Philadelphia could be the site of mass civil unrest or political violence.

But something very different happened instead. They danced."

-Philadelphia Inquirer, Nov. 9th 2020
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Anyone who has read Cixin Liu's "Three Body Problem" has a pretty good idea of why the Chinese want to get rid of this telescope and make sure they have the only other one like it.

I'm unfamiliar with that book, but big dish radio telescopes are all over the world. Granted, China has the biggest one.


But terms like "biggest one" can be pretty relative when you're talking professional research telescopes, as the technique called "astronomical interferometry" can utilize many separate telescopes, all around the world, focusing on a single object, to essentially form a gigantic "Earth-sized virtual telescope."


This is the wiki-article specifically on radio interferometry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_astr...rferometry

The technique has been in use since the mid-40's.

The famous images of galaxy M87's supermassive black hole released last year were generated via radio interferometry.

Not sure what advantage the Chinese could ever enjoy for having their single most giant radio telescope.

"For months there were warnings that if the presidential election dragged on past election day, Philadelphia could be the site of mass civil unrest or political violence.

But something very different happened instead. They danced."

-Philadelphia Inquirer, Nov. 9th 2020
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We did find something but noone should be looking Jhikpghf
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-21-2020 08:10 PM)
Anyone who has read Cixin Liu's "Three Body Problem" has a pretty good idea of why the Chinese want to get rid of this telescope and make sure they have the only other one like it.

I'm unfamiliar with that book,

It's a three-volume Chinese interpretation of western culture that begins with Mao and 1800 pages later it resolves into psychedelic futurism. It certainly earned the praise it received as the best science fiction in a long time.

The book begins with an insightful overview of Chinese cultural psychology and its oppressive treatment of the individual as a component of society. The Chinese telescope is used as a way to send forbidden messages across space, and both ends of that communication end up being held by individuals who defy the collective. The telescope is symbolic rather than practical, its singular nature and its exclusivity is what give it prestige that the Chinese government desires to possess, but in the story the lone scientist violates the will of the collective. Using the telescope in an unauthorized manner leads to the undoing of all claims to terrestrial supremacy when it becomes apparent that earth cannot defend itself.
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RE: SETI Dish Will Be Demolished
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (11-22-2020 02:03 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-21-2020 04:14 AM)
why was the dish allowed to fall into such disrepair?

My guess is lack of funding played a part. If I remember correctly, Obama gutted NASA a few years back.

Also, the telescope was simply...old. I'm impressed it lasted as long as it did, 50 years.

it was primarily funded by the National Science Foundation so you are wrong
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This is a cover story. The ptb didn't want this dish operating because it had made contact.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-22-2020 05:23 AM)
This is a cover story. The ptb didn't want this dish operating because it had made contact.

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What's wrong with bass?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-21-2020 08:10 PM)
Anyone who has read Cixin Liu's "Three Body Problem" has a pretty good idea of why the Chinese want to get rid of this telescope and make sure they have the only other one like it.

Its a pretty tedious formulaic piece of science fiction
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-21-2020 08:10 PM)
Anyone who has read Cixin Liu's "Three Body Problem" has a pretty good idea of why the Chinese want to get rid of this telescope and make sure they have the only other one like it.

Its a pretty tedious formulaic piece of science fiction

That's why it won the Hugo award for best novel, the Nebula award for best novel, and the Locus award for best science fiction novel, right?

The whole set weighs three pounds, and with such an astute commentary as you offer, you must have read it all, right?

Begins with a brutal criticism of the Mao era, and ends with brain-twisting mysticism. You can't tell me the whole "Fables of Yun Tianming" section is just dull formulaic sci fi.

But, like I said earlier, the chief contribution to science fiction made by Cixin is the introduction to contemporary Chinese perspectives on Western ideology. The book explores how Chinese people think, what they value, how they interpret America, and how they expect we see them.
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RE: SETI Dish Will Be Demolished
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-22-2020 02:53 AM)
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (11-22-2020 02:15 AM)
I'm unfamiliar with that book,

It's a three-volume Chinese interpretation of western culture that begins with Mao and 1800 pages later it resolves into psychedelic futurism. It certainly earned the praise it received as the best science fiction in a long time.

The book begins with an insightful overview of Chinese cultural psychology and its oppressive treatment of the individual as a component of society. The Chinese telescope is used as a way to send forbidden messages across space, and both ends of that communication end up being held by individuals who defy the collective. The telescope is symbolic rather than practical, its singular nature and its exclusivity is what give it prestige that the Chinese government desires to possess, but in the story the lone scientist violates the will of the collective. Using the telescope in an unauthorized manner leads to the undoing of all claims to terrestrial supremacy when it becomes apparent that earth cannot defend itself.

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

I worry about the fate of that author though. I hope he was able to make it out of China alive...(and if he's still there, I hope he's in one of the less deadly reeducation camps...)

"For months there were warnings that if the presidential election dragged on past election day, Philadelphia could be the site of mass civil unrest or political violence.

But something very different happened instead. They danced."

-Philadelphia Inquirer, Nov. 9th 2020
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RE: SETI Dish Will Be Demolished
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-22-2020 03:41 AM)
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (11-22-2020 02:03 AM)
My guess is lack of funding played a part. If I remember correctly, Obama gutted NASA a few years back.

Also, the telescope was simply...old. I'm impressed it lasted as long as it did, 50 years.

it was primarily funded by the National Science Foundation so you are wrong

I thought I might be, which is why I prefaced it as a guess.

"For months there were warnings that if the presidential election dragged on past election day, Philadelphia could be the site of mass civil unrest or political violence.

But something very different happened instead. They danced."

-Philadelphia Inquirer, Nov. 9th 2020
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