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ONGOING THREAD: Trump's Pardons for profits schemes, please add more!!!
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Yes but Obama did very few controversial pardons. Biden was mentored in that kind of do what is right for the nation kind of leadership. Biden is going to try to have a very non corrupt and non indicted administration just like Obama did.

What Trump is doing is out right vast corruption and then using pardons to get away with as much of their illegal corruptions as possible.

That is not how any administration has acted before. This is going to be a huge number of Trump pardons for profits and pardons with criminal corrupt intent.

Many Trump pardons will likely go to the fed. courts and the supreme court and the judicial branch of office has no interest in helping Trump get away with criminality and corruption.

1200 pardons from the Kenyan.
22 pardons from President Trump.

Ya all posting in a shill thread.

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1,200? Rofl

Obama granted about 200 pardons in 8 yrs.

And not one of those went to a person who wrote a book praising him or praised him over and over on Fox.Rofl

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1200 pardons from the Kenyan.
22 pardons from President Trump.

Ya all posting in a shill thread.

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1,200? Rofl

Obama granted about 200 pardons in 8 yrs.

And not one of those went to a person who wrote a book praising him or praised him over and over on Fox.Rofl

Quote:By the end of his second and final term on January 20, 2017, United States President Barack Obama had exercised his constitutional power to grant the executive clemency—that is, "pardon, commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve"[1]—to 1,927 individuals convicted of federal crimes. Of the acts of clemency, 1715 were commutations (including 504 life sentences) and 212 were pardons.[2][3] Most individuals granted executive clemency by Obama had been convicted on drug charges,[4] and had received lengthy and sometimes mandatory sentences at the height of the war on drugs.[5]

Obama holds the record for the largest single-day use of the clemency power, granting 330 commutations on January 19, 2017, his last full day in office.[6][7] He also issued more commutations than the past 13 presidents combined.[2][8]

Quote:Since taking office as the 45th president of the United States on January 20, 2017, Donald Trump has granted executive clemency to 45 individuals charged or convicted of federal criminal offenses, as authorized under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution.
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Gearing up for a Pardon-Palooza. Scream1

Report: Trump Has Discussed Pardons ‘Like Christmas Gifts’ To People Who Haven’t Asked

"President Donald Trump has been discussing pardons “like Christmas gifts” to people who haven’t even asked, one senior administration official told Axios in a report published late Monday.

According to the publication, Trump recently suggested to one adviser he was going to pardon “every person who ever talked to me,” suggesting that even more of Trump’s associates could be added to a growing list of people up for pardons during his dwindling days in office. Per Axios, the adviser wasn’t sure whether or not the comments were made in jest, although the source said that Trump did not appear to indicate at the time that he was joking.

The news comes as reports surfaced last week that Trump was considering pardons for roughly 20 associates, including his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his three eldest children.

According to Axios, Trump has made unsolicited suggestions to add people he’s in conversation with to a reportedly extensive potential pardons list. Those offers have extended to those who have not appeared to commit any crimes in an effort that one adviser told Axios they believed could be damaging to their public persona.

Trump has previously claimed that preemptive pardons were a way around a “witch hunt” into his administration and a move that would protect his associates from the incoming Justice Department. President-elect Joe Biden, however, has not yet chosen an attorney general and recently told CNN that the department will be “the people’s justice department” and not an agency assigned to do his political bidding."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/repor...vent-asked

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You are one sorry sack of sh*t.
Do you have a life outside of Trump.

Feel sorry for anybody around you in real life.
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You are one sorry sack of sh*t.
Do you have a life outside of Trump.

Feel sorry for anybody around you in real life.

Go have a good cry. Jhikpghf

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Gearing up for a Pardon-Palooza. Scream1

Report: Trump Has Discussed Pardons ‘Like Christmas Gifts’ To People Who Haven’t Asked

"President Donald Trump has been discussing pardons “like Christmas gifts” to people who haven’t even asked, one senior administration official told Axios in a report published late Monday.

According to the publication, Trump recently suggested to one adviser he was going to pardon “every person who ever talked to me,” suggesting that even more of Trump’s associates could be added to a growing list of people up for pardons during his dwindling days in office. Per Axios, the adviser wasn’t sure whether or not the comments were made in jest, although the source said that Trump did not appear to indicate at the time that he was joking.

The news comes as reports surfaced last week that Trump was considering pardons for roughly 20 associates, including his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his three eldest children.

According to Axios, Trump has made unsolicited suggestions to add people he’s in conversation with to a reportedly extensive potential pardons list. Those offers have extended to those who have not appeared to commit any crimes in an effort that one adviser told Axios they believed could be damaging to their public persona.

Trump has previously claimed that preemptive pardons were a way around a “witch hunt” into his administration and a move that would protect his associates from the incoming Justice Department. President-elect Joe Biden, however, has not yet chosen an attorney general and recently told CNN that the department will be “the people’s justice department” and not an agency assigned to do his political bidding."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/repor...vent-asked

Considering the lying hatefilled dems will chase anyone who helped Trump to their graves this might not be a bad idea.

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Gearing up for a Pardon-Palooza. Scream1

Report: Trump Has Discussed Pardons ‘Like Christmas Gifts’ To People Who Haven’t Asked

"President Donald Trump has been discussing pardons “like Christmas gifts” to people who haven’t even asked, one senior administration official told Axios in a report published late Monday.

According to the publication, Trump recently suggested to one adviser he was going to pardon “every person who ever talked to me,” suggesting that even more of Trump’s associates could be added to a growing list of people up for pardons during his dwindling days in office. Per Axios, the adviser wasn’t sure whether or not the comments were made in jest, although the source said that Trump did not appear to indicate at the time that he was joking.

The news comes as reports surfaced last week that Trump was considering pardons for roughly 20 associates, including his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his three eldest children.

According to Axios, Trump has made unsolicited suggestions to add people he’s in conversation with to a reportedly extensive potential pardons list. Those offers have extended to those who have not appeared to commit any crimes in an effort that one adviser told Axios they believed could be damaging to their public persona.

Trump has previously claimed that preemptive pardons were a way around a “witch hunt” into his administration and a move that would protect his associates from the incoming Justice Department. President-elect Joe Biden, however, has not yet chosen an attorney general and recently told CNN that the department will be “the people’s justice department” and not an agency assigned to do his political bidding."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/repor...vent-asked

Considering the lying hatefilled dems will chase anyone who helped Trump to their graves this might not be a bad idea.


I am no big fan of Kieth Olberman generally, he does make some good points sometimes.

I want real investigations for what seems like real crimes, and there are many of those to be investigated.

Trump's single term in office is the most indicted and criminally charged term in the history of the US. There are many other very suspicious things that need to be looked at.

BTW, assuming you actually believe Trump is not criminally implicated and involved in many self serving corruption, how is what a few pundits are saying that Trump and many of his cronies should be investigated any different than what Trump said often about Obama, Biden, Hillary etc. etc. etc. etc. when there were no probable cause cases showing actual illegality by any of those people?

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Well as expected here comes the walls of corruptions and self dealing last gasp stashing as much money as Trump can into his pockets before he leaves office as a loser, one-termer failed IMPOTUS. :scream1

Associates and ‘high profile criminals’ are trying to get what they can out of Trump while he still has power: report

"As President Trump’s tenure in the White House draws to a close, hundreds of his allies — including some of his closest business associates and “many high-profile criminals” — are trying to get what they can out of him while he’s still in power, according to a new report from CNN’s Pamela Brown, Kevin Liptak and Jeremy Diamond.


“Since Trump lost the election six weeks ago, calls and emails have been flooding into the West Wing from people looking to benefit from the President’s powers of clemency,” CNN reports. “So inundated is Trump’s staff with requests for pardons or commutations that a spreadsheet has been created to keep track of the requests directed to Trump’s close aides.”

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Trump is actively engaging with the flood of requests, and appears “eager to wield his powers” while he still has them, according to sources speaking to CNN.

“Unlike practically any other matter related to the end of his presidency, his clemency powers are a topic Trump actually seems to enjoy discussing, one person in communication with the President said, even though it amounts to another tacit reminder that his tenure at the White House is nearly over,” the report states.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/associa...er-report/


'It's turned crazy': Inside the scramble for Trump pardons

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/politics/...index.html

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More self serving pardons from Trump. chuckle

Wow pardoning super criminally corrupt Duncan Hunter is such a disgusting move. That loathsome P.O.S. should served every f*cking day of his sentience, he was a corrupt public servant in office to make money, just like Trump which is why Trump pardoned him. Trump likes pardoning corrupt politicians like Rod Blagojevich and now Duncan Hunter. What a P.O.S. that Trump is. Jhikpghf

Trump announces wave of pardons, including Papadopoulos and former lawmakers Hunter and Collins

"(CNN)President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced a wave of lame duck pardons, including two for men who pleaded guilty in Robert Mueller's investigation, as well as ones for Republican allies who once served in Congress and military contractors involved in a deadly shooting of Iraqi civilians.

The pardons of former campaign aide George Papadopoulos, former US congressmen Duncan Hunter and Chris Collins, and the four Blackwater guards involved in the Iraq massacre kick off what is expected to be a flurry of pardons and commutations in the coming weeks as Trump concludes his term.

Also included in the batch announced on Tuesday are Alex van der Zwaan, the Dutch lawyer who was sentenced to 30 days in jail after pleading guilty to lying to Mueller investigators; two Border Patrol agents convicted in 2006 of shooting and wounding an unarmed undocumented immigrant and then covering it up; and several people convicted of non-violent drug crimes serving lengthy sentences.

The pardons came at the recommendation of Trump allies in Congress and, in some cases, the conservative media. Many of the non-violent drug offenders were recommended for clemency by Alice Johnson, the former federal inmate whose sentence Trump commuted at the urging of Kim Kardashian West.

Mueller investigation pardons
The pardons give forgiveness to two early defendants who pleaded guilty and served prison time in the Mueller investigation: 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser Papadopoulos and Van der Zwaan, who was part of a major investigation by Mueller into illegal foreign lobbying efforts and the Ukrainian and Russian connections of Trump campaign adviser Paul Manafort.

Both Papadopoulos and Van der Zwaan pleaded guilty to lying to investigators during the Russia investigation. And neither provided Mueller with any meaningful cooperation, prosecutors said.

Papadopoulos had lied to investigators about his contacts with people connected to Russia, including discussing with them "dirt" that could hurt Hillary Clinton in 2016 and a possible trip by Trump during the campaign to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin.

At his sentencing, Papadopoulos' then-lawyer called him "pro-FBI" and said he had lied so he might still be considered for a job in the Trump administration. The defense lawyer, Thomas Breen, effectively blamed Trump for publicly urging people such as Papadopoulos to disregard the Russia investigators. "The President of the United States hindered this investigation more than George Papadopoulos ever could," Breen argued.

"I made a terrible mistake," Papadopoulos told the judge during his sentencing hearing. "In hindsight, lying to federal agents about such a critical issue could have harmed our nation."

He spent less than two weeks in prison in late 2018. Since then, he's railed against the investigators and how they caught him.

Van der Zwaan, who is also the son-in-law of the Ukrainian-Russian billionaire German Khan, spent almost a month in prison before being deported to Europe in June 2018. He showed "muted" remorse at his sentencing, the judge noted.
"This is not something that happened to him. This is something he did," federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson said at Van der Zwaan's sentencing. "He put his personal interest ahead of the interest of justice."

More recently, Papadopoulos ran for Congress in California's 25th District in 2019 following Democratic Rep. Katie Hill's resignation. He lost the race for the open seat in the March primary.

Former congressmen pardoned
Hunter, who was sentenced earlier this year to 11 months in prison and three years of supervised release related to his misuse of more than $200,000 in campaign funds for personal expenses, was recommended for a pardon by "many members of Congress," according to the White House release.

The former California lawmaker pleaded guilty in December 2019 to one count of conspiracy to misuse campaign funds and was set to be on supervised release for three years after serving his prison sentence. He was also required to participate in a drug and alcohol treatment program. Hunter would have started his sentence in May, but it was delayed because of the coronavirus pandemic, and he would have reported to a federal prison in West Texas in January 2021."

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Trump mostly only pardones war criminals and corrupt politicians and wealthy fraudsters that can pay him kickbacks in various ways. Scream1

Medicare fraudster who exploited the elderly in $1.3 billion scheme embodies 'grotesque' corruption of Trump clemency orders

"The very last name on President Donald Trump's newly released list of 20 pardons and commutations is Philip Esformes, a man the White House describes as a victim of "prosecutorial misconduct" who has been "devoted to prayer and repentance" during his time behind bars.

What the White House doesn't mention is that Esformes, now 52, was sentenced just last year to two decades in prison for his central role in an elaborate, billion-dollar Medicare fraud scheme in which he and others exploited elderly and poor patients for profit—in some cases with deadly consequences.

Esformes, who the White House said is in declining health, was convicted last April of bribery, money laundering, and other charges. Trump announced late Tuesday that he has commuted Esformes' sentence.

"Duncan Hunter was convicted for spending campaign money to fund his personal lifestyle, Chris Collins engaged in illegal insider trading. These corrupt politicians don't deserve a pardon."
—Rep. Katie Porter

The Chicago Tribune reported last September that "Esformes, who once controlled a network of more than two dozen healthcare facilities that stretched from Chicago to Miami, garnered $1.3 billion Medicaid revenues by bribing medical professionals who referred patients to his Florida facilities then paid off government regulators as vulnerable residents were injured by their peers, prosecutors said."

"In Esformes' Oceanside Extended Care Center in Miami Beach," the Tribune noted, "'an elderly patient was attacked and beaten to death by a younger mental health patient who never should have been at [a nursing facility] in the first place,' prosecutors wrote in a pre-sentencing memo."

After U.S. District Judge Robert Scola of the Southern District of Florida sentenced Esformes to 20 years in prison last September, a member of Trump's own Justice Department described the nursing home mogul as "a man driven by almost unbounded greed.""

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-pardons-2649631264/

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Unless someone loved money.

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It will only get profoundly worse after the Congress stuffs the big one up his rear on January 6th.
We ain't seen nothing yet. Don't forget he intends to auction off ANWR drilling two weeks before leaving.
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It will only get profoundly worse after the Congress stuffs the big one up his rear on January 6th.
We ain't seen nothing yet. Don't forget he intends to auction off ANWR drilling two weeks before leaving.

I hope they can reverse the auction after Trump is out of office on environmental grounds through a presidential order or legislation.

It will be really horrible if they cannot. Scream1

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1,200? Rofl

Obama granted about 200 pardons in 8 yrs.

And not one of those went to a person who wrote a book praising him or praised him over and over on Fox.Rofl

Quote:By the end of his second and final term on January 20, 2017, United States President Barack Obama had exercised his constitutional power to grant the executive clemency—that is, "pardon, commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve"[1]—to 1,927 individuals convicted of federal crimes. Of the acts of clemency, 1715 were commutations (including 504 life sentences) and 212 were pardons.[2][3] Most individuals granted executive clemency by Obama had been convicted on drug charges,[4] and had received lengthy and sometimes mandatory sentences at the height of the war on drugs.[5]

Obama holds the record for the largest single-day use of the clemency power, granting 330 commutations on January 19, 2017, his last full day in office.[6][7] He also issued more commutations than the past 13 presidents combined.[2][8]

Quote:Since taking office as the 45th president of the United States on January 20, 2017, Donald Trump has granted executive clemency to 45 individuals charged or convicted of federal criminal offenses, as authorized under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution.

Just as I said "Obama granted about 200 pardons in 8 years.
Thanks for the verication.chuckle

"212 were pardons"

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