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Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
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Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot

A prominent New York lawyers group opened an investigation to explore removing Rudy Giuliani from its membership over his role in the Washington protest that turned into a violent raid on the U.S. Capitol.

The New York State Bar Association announced the probe on Monday. The group does not control admission to practice law in the state, which falls under the authority of the courts. But the NYSBA, along with the Association of the Bar of the City of New York, are large groups that speak for the state’s legal community.

New York State Senator Brad Hoylman, the chairman of the state senate’s judiciary committee, said on Monday he would file a complaint with the courts seeking Giuliani’s formal disbarment.

The former New York mayor addressed the pro-Trump crowd before it marched towards the Capitol, telling them there was plentiful evidence that the election had been stolen from the president and proposing the contest be decided through “trial by combat.”....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...pitol-riot

Still draining the swamp one employee at a time.

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
A top Georgia election official says Rudy Giuliani 'lied' about election fraud by presenting a deceptively edited video as evidence

The Georgia election official Gabriel Sterling said Rudy Giuliani "lied" by presenting a deceptively edited video as evidence of election fraud.

In a "60 Minutes" interview, Sterling debunked one of Giuliani's claims about illegitimate ballots, saying the president's lawyer showed a misleading clip to Georgia state senators despite having access to the full video.

Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, who also appeared on "60 Minutes," said Giuliani "knows that what he said was not true."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-BB1cDPnK

When is it okay for a lawyer to lie?


Everyone knows that lawyers are not allowed to lie — to clients, courts or third parties. But once you get beyond deliberate false statements, the scope of the obligations to truth and integrity become less clear. What about reckless and negligent statements that are false? What about misleading statements and implications about the extent of your knowledge? What about omissions? When is it okay to exploit someone else’s misapprehension and when do you have to correct it?

Those and other questions were the focus of a recent ABA-sponsored webinar titled, “Lies, Damned Lies, and Alternative Facts,” during which a panel of expert ethics lawyers attempted to answer these questions and discussed the scope of lawyers’ duty of candor under ABA Model Rules 1.2, 1.6, 3.3, 4.1 and 8.4.....

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews...-to-lie--/

You might want to brush up on that, Rudy^^^^

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Alternative facts, witch-hunt, bigly: the Trump era in 32 words and phrases
His rally speeches and manic Twitter feed conjured new slogans and insults or revived incendiary words

alternative facts

(snip)

Coined by Kellyanne Conway, the White House counselor, during a Meet the Press interview in January 2017 to defend press secretary Sean Spicer’s the false assertion that Trump drew the biggest inauguration crowd ever.....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...ds-phrases

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
Trump mulls Rudy Giuliani and Alan Dershowitz for impeachment defense

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia...=CALHeader

Better go with the Lolita Express guy.

chuckle

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...women.html

Personally I would have "mulled" Jonathan Turley.

First.

Would have appointed him AG.

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (01-12-2021 09:26 PM)
A top Georgia election official says Rudy Giuliani 'lied' about election fraud by presenting a deceptively edited video as evidence

The Georgia election official Gabriel Sterling said Rudy Giuliani "lied" by presenting a deceptively edited video as evidence of election fraud.

In a "60 Minutes" interview, Sterling debunked one of Giuliani's claims about illegitimate ballots, saying the president's lawyer showed a misleading clip to Georgia state senators despite having access to the full video.

Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, who also appeared on "60 Minutes," said Giuliani "knows that what he said was not true."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-BB1cDPnK

When is it okay for a lawyer to lie?


Everyone knows that lawyers are not allowed to lie — to clients, courts or third parties. But once you get beyond deliberate false statements, the scope of the obligations to truth and integrity become less clear. What about reckless and negligent statements that are false? What about misleading statements and implications about the extent of your knowledge? What about omissions? When is it okay to exploit someone else’s misapprehension and when do you have to correct it?

Those and other questions were the focus of a recent ABA-sponsored webinar titled, “Lies, Damned Lies, and Alternative Facts,” during which a panel of expert ethics lawyers attempted to answer these questions and discussed the scope of lawyers’ duty of candor under ABA Model Rules 1.2, 1.6, 3.3, 4.1 and 8.4.....

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews...-to-lie--/

You might want to brush up on that, Rudy^^^^

YW

Alternative facts, witch-hunt, bigly: the Trump era in 32 words and phrases
His rally speeches and manic Twitter feed conjured new slogans and insults or revived incendiary words

alternative facts

(snip)

Coined by Kellyanne Conway, the White House counselor, during a Meet the Press interview in January 2017 to defend press secretary Sean Spicer’s the false assertion that Trump drew the biggest inauguration crowd ever.....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...ds-phrases

So where in the article is the video that he displayed that is in question?

They will not show it to you, why, because once you see it, no matter how they claim it was edited to show something, the video does show a lot, so much so that recently SOS Brad Raffensperger during the leaked call with trump admitted that the GBI and the FBI had done investigations and concluded that nothing irregular was found.

But when the legislature asked for the reports, SOS refused to provide them, they are not going to be released, even trump asked for them though his lawyers, and have been denied access to them.

Why would he deny access to reports that exhonerate the state and him from any wrong doing?

Why did he write memos to the legislature in which he lied twice about the video saying no one was told to leave and even though no officials are present, he said that there were always officials present during the counting, but the video contradicts this, chuckle

SO now Guiliani can sue them for Defamation and let the court decide, chuckle

Oh and here is the video evidence that was presented to the georgia legislature, that shows something, and you can decide if it is nothing, but i doubt you have the balls to watch it, chuckle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5eO_H5tNo



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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
How was he involved, actually? Was he out in the crowd Alex Jones like with a bullhorn instigating a riot?

This is beyond ridiculous and entering into the realm of ludicrous. Pun.

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2021 11:44 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (01-12-2021 09:26 PM)
A top Georgia election official says Rudy Giuliani 'lied' about election fraud by presenting a deceptively edited video as evidence

The Georgia election official Gabriel Sterling said Rudy Giuliani "lied" by presenting a deceptively edited video as evidence of election fraud.

In a "60 Minutes" interview, Sterling debunked one of Giuliani's claims about illegitimate ballots, saying the president's lawyer showed a misleading clip to Georgia state senators despite having access to the full video.

Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, who also appeared on "60 Minutes," said Giuliani "knows that what he said was not true."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-BB1cDPnK

When is it okay for a lawyer to lie?


Everyone knows that lawyers are not allowed to lie — to clients, courts or third parties. But once you get beyond deliberate false statements, the scope of the obligations to truth and integrity become less clear. What about reckless and negligent statements that are false? What about misleading statements and implications about the extent of your knowledge? What about omissions? When is it okay to exploit someone else’s misapprehension and when do you have to correct it?

Those and other questions were the focus of a recent ABA-sponsored webinar titled, “Lies, Damned Lies, and Alternative Facts,” during which a panel of expert ethics lawyers attempted to answer these questions and discussed the scope of lawyers’ duty of candor under ABA Model Rules 1.2, 1.6, 3.3, 4.1 and 8.4.....

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews...-to-lie--/

You might want to brush up on that, Rudy^^^^

YW

Alternative facts, witch-hunt, bigly: the Trump era in 32 words and phrases
His rally speeches and manic Twitter feed conjured new slogans and insults or revived incendiary words

alternative facts

(snip)

Coined by Kellyanne Conway, the White House counselor, during a Meet the Press interview in January 2017 to defend press secretary Sean Spicer’s the false assertion that Trump drew the biggest inauguration crowd ever.....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...ds-phrases

So where in the article is the video that he displayed that is in question?

They will not show it to you, why, because once you see it, no matter how they claim it was edited to show something, the video does show a lot, so much so that recently SOS Brad Raffensperger during the leaked call with trump admitted that the GBI and the FBI had done investigations and concluded that nothing irregular was found.

But when the legislature asked for the reports, SOS refused to provide them, they are not going to be released, even trump asked for them though his lawyers, and have been denied access to them.

Why would he deny access to reports that exhonerate the state and him from any wrong doing?

Why did he write memos to the legislature in which he lied twice about the video saying no one was told to leave and even though no officials are present, he said that there were always officials present during the counting, but the video contradicts this, chuckle

SO now Guiliani can sue them for Defamation and let the court decide, chuckle

Oh and here is the video evidence that was presented to the georgia legislature, that shows something, and you can decide if it is nothing, but i doubt you have the balls to watch it, chuckle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5eO_H5tNo



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Brad Raffensperger

00:27:17 - 00:27:22 (5 sec)

We had - -- we had, we had GBI [Inaudible] investigate that.

Ryan Germany

00:27:22 - 00:27:34 (12 sec)

We had our -- This is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone, uh, who was, who was there after that event came to light. Uh, they were -- GBI was with them as well as, um, FBI agents. Uh --

Kurt Hilbert

00:54:31 - 00:54:49 (18 sec)

That, that is correct. That, that information is the minimum, most conservative data based upon the USPS data and secretary of state's office data. That has been made publicly available. We do not have the internal numbers from the secretary of state. Yet, we have asked for it six times. I've sent a letter over to Mr.


Kurt Hilbert

00:54:49 - 00:55:02 (13 sec)

Anulewicz several times, uh, requesting this information. And it's been rebuffed every single time. So, it stands to reason that if the information is not worth comping, forthcoming, there's something to hide, that's the problem that we have.

Ryan Germany

00:55:02 - 00:55:11 (9 sec)

Well, that's not the case. There are things that, that you guys are, are entitled to get and there's things that, under law, we are not allowed to give out --



Donald Trump

00:55:11 - 00:55:12 (1 sec)

Well, you have to --

https://youtu.be/7xL0M6gUgqk





There is no law preventing them from sharing the fbi investigations or the data they rely on to make a decision, they are lying.

They have everything to hide.

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (01-12-2021 11:49 PM)
How was he involved, actually? Was he out in the crowd Alex Jones like with a bullhorn instigating a riot?

This is beyond ridiculous and entering into the realm of ludicrous. Pun.

Disbarment for serial lying and presenting misleading evidence and statements to the courts is not that uncommon. Giuliani is so guilty of being a horribly unethical lawyer and doing so many unprofessional things.

I hope they do it.

Here is a bunch of info on Giuliani.

Giuliani will ‘absolutely’ face criminal charges for Ukraine meddling

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-148330....t=Giuliani

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
He Man  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:19 AM)
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (01-12-2021 11:49 PM)
How was he involved, actually? Was he out in the crowd Alex Jones like with a bullhorn instigating a riot?

This is beyond ridiculous and entering into the realm of ludicrous. Pun.

Disbarment for serial lying and presenting misleading evidence and statements to the courts is not that uncommon. Giuliani is so guilty of being a horribly unethical lawyer and doing so many unprofessional things.

I hope they do it.

Here is a bunch of info on Giuliani.

Giuliani will ‘absolutely’ face criminal charges for Ukraine meddling

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-148330....t=Giuliani

If you had read the OP you would know this group can't prevent him from practicing law.

I would give you the due credit that a unethical liar would know about such behaviour but you're demonstrably wrong.
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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:23 AM)
He Man  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:19 AM)
Disbarment for serial lying and presenting misleading evidence and statements to the courts is not that uncommon. Giuliani is so guilty of being a horribly unethical lawyer and doing so many unprofessional things.

I hope they do it.

Here is a bunch of info on Giuliani.

Giuliani will ‘absolutely’ face criminal charges for Ukraine meddling

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-148330....t=Giuliani

If you had read the OP you would know this group can't prevent him from practicing law.

I would give you the due credit that a unethical liar would know about such behaviour but you're demonstrably wrong.

I didn't say that group could do a disbarment.
I think Giuliani may get disbarred eventually and/or charged with various crimes related to his Ukrainian dirt digging and manufacturing BS against Biden and his son.

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
He Man  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:29 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:23 AM)
If you had read the OP you would know this group can't prevent him from practicing law.

I would give you the due credit that a unethical liar would know about such behaviour but you're demonstrably wrong.

I didn't say that group could do a disbarment.
I think Giuliani may get disbarred eventually and/or charged with various crimes related to his Ukrainian dirt digging and manufacturing BS against Biden and his son.

"I hope they do it."

You did literally say it.
Why lie when its in black and white right there for all to see?
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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:30 AM)
He Man  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:29 AM)
I didn't say that group could do a disbarment.
I think Giuliani may get disbarred eventually and/or charged with various crimes related to his Ukrainian dirt digging and manufacturing BS against Biden and his son.

"I hope they do it."

You did literally say it.
Why lie when its in black and white right there for all to see?

Stop putting words in my mouth, I was posting about Giuliani deserving disbarment.

I do hope they disbar Giuliani, meaning any entity that has the power to do that. Giuliani is a menace to the legal profession. He is fully deserving of disbarment.

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
He Man  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:54 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:30 AM)
"I hope they do it."

You did literally say it.
Why lie when its in black and white right there for all to see?

Stop putting words in my mouth, I was posting about Giuliani deserving disbarment.

I do hope they disbar Giuliani, meaning any entity that has the power to do that. Giuliani is a menace to the legal profession. He is fully deserving of disbarment.

It's literally a quote from you
Are your friends here so stupid they believe little routines like this where you deny what is there for all to see?
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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
He Man  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:29 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 02:23 AM)
If you had read the OP you would know this group can't prevent him from practicing law.

I would give you the due credit that a unethical liar would know about such behaviour but you're demonstrably wrong.

I didn't say that group could do a disbarment.
I think Giuliani may get disbarred eventually and/or charged with various crimes related to his Ukrainian dirt digging and manufacturing BS against Biden and his son.

Guiliani has the receipts from the Ukrainian paying kerry, and biden, and their sons were the bag men, they used their own sons as the dupes, because as joe said it is all about character.

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RE: Giuliani May Be Expelled by New York Bar Group Over Capitol Riot
Guiliani just wanted to join the BAR group

haha. get it?
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Wtf does this have to do with him. Bsflag
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