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explain christianity to me please
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RE: explain christianity to me please
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"You believe that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman made from a rib was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.”


Anon

It's always best to develop a deep resounding faith within one's own self
Long before the tribulations begin ,
as a reservoir to draw upon in the heat of the battles in life.
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RE: explain christianity to me please
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 07:25 PM)
"You believe that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman made from a rib was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.”


Anon

I sure do.

To those the blind who once could see,
The bell tolls for thee. The bell tolls for thee.

I am afraid
As I stand beside you
I have denied you
I am afraid
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Post: #33
RE: explain christianity to me please
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 05:34 PM)
why must i beleive in jesus

We "believe" that a "lightbulb" belongs ABOVE fixed in a "light socket" and not lying "unlit" on the floor BELOW.
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RE: explain christianity to me please
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (01-13-2021 07:04 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 05:34 PM)
why must i beleive in jesus

To exist in this physical realm you don't need to believe in Jesus. But, if you want to be with God for eternity, then you must believe in His sacrifice for you.

I'll try to make it simple. God created Adam and Eve in His image, that means they had a conscience. Once they activated that conscience to know the difference between right and wrong they became gods, before they were one with the Almighty God.

This sin (God commanded them not to eat from the tree of knowledge) separated them from God, broke the connection if you will. This is a permanent state, forever. God said once you eat from the tree you will die, they didn't die immediately but they did die in time. They died in their sins. Meaning they were separated from God by their sins.

God didn't like this situation, so He interceded in time and space on our behalf by becoming human like us, so He could take upon Himself the punishment that we deserved (separation from God). He was crucified on a cross and died, taking upon Himself the sins of all humanity from Adam to the last person born.

This means God died to the law which He had originally ordained, creating a new opportunity for eternity future with Him, this is called the Kingdom of God.

Amazingly, all that is required is belief in Christ, that He existed, that He was who He said He was (the Son of God) and that His death and atonement was sufficient to carry the totality of all sin of all time.

I think He took that sin to hell for 3 days and left it there, the sins of those who believed. People who reject the Gospel (good news) carry the burden of their sin (punishment or price) forever, meaning separation from God for eternity.


Incorrect.

It was a joint effort.


“Let us make man in our image"
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RE: explain christianity to me please
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (01-13-2021 08:30 PM)
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (01-13-2021 07:04 PM)
To exist in this physical realm you don't need to believe in Jesus. But, if you want to be with God for eternity, then you must believe in His sacrifice for you.

I'll try to make it simple. God created Adam and Eve in His image, that means they had a conscience. Once they activated that conscience to know the difference between right and wrong they became gods, before they were one with the Almighty God.

This sin (God commanded them not to eat from the tree of knowledge) separated them from God, broke the connection if you will. This is a permanent state, forever. God said once you eat from the tree you will die, they didn't die immediately but they did die in time. They died in their sins. Meaning they were separated from God by their sins.

God didn't like this situation, so He interceded in time and space on our behalf by becoming human like us, so He could take upon Himself the punishment that we deserved (separation from God). He was crucified on a cross and died, taking upon Himself the sins of all humanity from Adam to the last person born.

This means God died to the law which He had originally ordained, creating a new opportunity for eternity future with Him, this is called the Kingdom of God.

Amazingly, all that is required is belief in Christ, that He existed, that He was who He said He was (the Son of God) and that His death and atonement was sufficient to carry the totality of all sin of all time.

I think He took that sin to hell for 3 days and left it there, the sins of those who believed. People who reject the Gospel (good news) carry the burden of their sin (punishment or price) forever, meaning separation from God for eternity.


Incorrect.

It was a joint effort.


“Let us make man in our image"

That was actually foreshadowing of what God would do in the Person of Christ. God knows all things, He exists outside of time and space. When He created Adam and Eve He knew they would sin, fall.

So He offers that prophetic passage which means we become part of God, the Family of God for eternity future. That is the 'our' part of that passage.

More formal or conservative views would be that was God speaking in the Trinity. But because I don't see the Trinity existing in the future only the past, the fourth(?) part of the Godhead is the Body of Christ.

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Post: #36
RE: explain christianity to me please
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (01-13-2021 08:40 PM)
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (01-13-2021 08:30 PM)
Incorrect.

It was a joint effort.


“Let us make man in our image"

That was actually foreshadowing of what God would do in the Person of Christ. God knows all things, He exists outside of time and space. When He created Adam and Eve He knew they would sin, fall.

So He offers that prophetic passage which means we become part of God, the Family of God for eternity future. That is the 'our' part of that passage.

More formal or conservative views would be that was God speaking in the Trinity. But because I don't see the Trinity existing in the future only the past, the fourth(?) part of the Godhead is the Body of Christ.


That's how you rationalize that awkward bit, I know.


But it gets worse:


Gen. 3:22, “Then the Lord God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever.'”

Gen. 11:7, “Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.”

Ex. 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me"


That last one is really interesting.

Why would the supposed creator of the universe be so insecure about the other gods?
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Post: #37
RE: explain christianity to me please
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (01-13-2021 09:16 PM)
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (01-13-2021 08:40 PM)
That was actually foreshadowing of what God would do in the Person of Christ. God knows all things, He exists outside of time and space. When He created Adam and Eve He knew they would sin, fall.

So He offers that prophetic passage which means we become part of God, the Family of God for eternity future. That is the 'our' part of that passage.

More formal or conservative views would be that was God speaking in the Trinity. But because I don't see the Trinity existing in the future only the past, the fourth(?) part of the Godhead is the Body of Christ.


That's how you rationalize that awkward bit, I know.


But it gets worse:


Gen. 3:22, “Then the Lord God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever.'”

Gen. 11:7, “Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.”

Ex. 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me"


That last one is really interesting.

Why would the supposed creator of the universe be so insecure about the other gods?

The Gen. 3 allegory is similar to the Greek myth of Prometheus stealing
fire from the gods (of Olympus).

Prometheus was another archetype of Lucifer.

You'll have to look at this etching to see the relationship.
It show Prometheus descending through the vault of the heavens
with fire. Apollo the sun god appears to either be casting him out,
or pointing at the astrological symbol of Aquarius.
(below the cosmic scene is the earthly scene of Pandora opening the jar)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora's_...y_1557.jpg
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RE: explain christianity to me please
Quote:Ex. 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me"

Monotheism is a religious system that parallels the philosophy that
teaches that one underlying reality is the basis of all reality.

It's called idealism.

The opposite of this eternal heavenly singular reality is the confusing
and ever-changing world of phenomena at our human level of existence.
We call it relativism.

At our level we are constantly changing our focus to whatever needs attention at the moment. These phenomena are represented by Plato's
allegory of the cave.

Siehst du?
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Danger Dan  Wrote: (01-13-2021 05:38 PM)
invisible man in sky
sees everything every one does

Not invisible. The 3 magi point directly to him.
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RE: explain christianity to me please
Essentially, such as other religions, it is mostly deluded and misguided. Because it's fundamentally based on political principles.

The one thing that christianity has going for it, is that it isn't QUITE as stupid as atheism.
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With atheism being the most unimaginative religion possible.
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Bible doesnt say how many Magi there were, 3 is often used because they brought 3 gifts

The 'Let Us' comment refers to the Trinity

















Belgic Confession

8. That God is one in Essence, yet nevertheless distinguished in three Persons

According to this truth and this Word of God, we believe in one only God, who is the one single essence, in which are three persons, really, truly, and eternally distinct, according to their incommunicable properties; namely, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost. The Father is the cause, origin and beginning of all things visible and invisible; the Son is the word, wisdom, and image of the Father; the Holy Ghost is the eternal power and might, proceeding from the Father and the Son. Nevertheless God is not by this distinction divided into three, since the Holy Scriptures teach us, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost, have each his personality, distinguished by their properties; but in such wise that these three persons are but one only God. Hence then, it is evident, that the Father is not the Son, nor the Son the Father, and likewise the Holy Ghost is neither the Father nor the Son. Nevertheless these persons thus distinguished are not divided, nor intermixed: for the Father has not assumed the flesh, nor has the Holy Ghost, but the Son only. The Father has never been without his Son, or without his Holy Ghost. For they are all three coeternal and co-essential. There is neither first nor last: for they are all three one, in truth, in power, in goodness, and in mercy.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-13-2021 07:14 PM)
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Explain Judaism to me please, I want to know why I should worship moloch. I was thinking about converting so I could get away with everything.

The main success about getting away with everything is getting away with everything. Once you have done that, and fact checkers will probably presume your success for their own benefit, is that worshipping moloch is actually different from worshipping Molech. For example, like Sid Meier's Civilization, Paul Coelho moloch ness monster does come up in current year conversation. There is a stowaway word there which would make those of straight persuasion mighty uncomfortable. But you could get away with everything as a healer.

Personally, Christ could get away with everything...later. But, you first.

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https://youtu.be/8dHzAn1vhl0
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RE: explain christianity to me please
chucklechucklechuckle

And the story continues!





https://youtu.be/UNzUVM2xPWI

Rofl
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RE: explain christianity to me please
ok
then explain this



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