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If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
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02-15-2021 08:16 PM

 




Post: #31
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 12:34 PM)
U keep telling urself that lol

I will. Because it's common sense.

The only reason YOU are still standing here, and not hundreds of millions of miles behind us, floating in the void of space, is because you are made of atoms, held to a planet made of atoms, by the gravity generated by a hole bunch of atoms in one place. Things that aren't made of atoms, or quantum material, are unaffected by gravity, so there would be nothing anchoring a ghost to the Earth.

Here's a piece of completely unrelated trivia. The less societal value, or self-perceived success one has, the more likely they are to fantasize that they have special abilities, or knowledge of the supernatural.

You see the ego is what drives self-preservation. In a primal setting, a living creature must value his own survival above that of his competitors, otherwise he will have no drive to compete and survive. But human intellect is capable of questioning the ego, of observing a lack of evidence that justifies his survival over others. So when the ego lacks real-world evidence of it's own importance, it makes it up, to convince you that you are important.

This is why the person you find on a conspiracy site insisting that he walks the astral plane, or is in contact with ambassadors to the galactic federation, is very rarely someone enjoying financial, familial, or social success, and is far more likely to be someone living on foodstamps, who doesn't remember what it feels like to be hugged.

Completely unrelated. Sometimes weird things just pop into my head.

Clearly directing that right at me. For a start I’m not a he! I’m a she! It’s not my fault ur not ur not knowledge in that area.

And all that Lardy dah on atoms n all that. Very boring indeed. Knowledge I really not keen to read about.

Piece of advice... don’t knock things u don’t understand. It doesn’t make ur clever by trying to pull the scientific crap.

Ghost are very much real just as much as we are!

Don’t be so ignorant/black and white in how u see reality.

Can u see energy in the air? No! Neither can scientists. They need human made stuff to see it. But ppl who are open can see it. So remember science is the final answer to reality and existance.

Lol
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The Ghost of Brix
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02-15-2021 08:18 PM

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Post: #32
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
a person that does not practice astral travel,

is not a serious student of the occult

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02-15-2021 08:21 PM

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Post: #33
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Inter dimensional beings or glitches?

I do not label myself. What I stand for is based on my own convictions, and I don't care which box - the left one or the right one - they happen to belong.
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02-15-2021 08:22 PM

 




Post: #34
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Roddy  Wrote: (02-15-2021 08:21 PM)
Inter dimensional beings or glitches?

Ghosts dont like being surveilled.
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Sing-I'llSway
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02-15-2021 08:35 PM

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Post: #35
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:01 AM)
Okay, zero response. Cool. But let's keep responding to the stupid "
Post: #1Corona Virus COVID-19 Pandemic" thread that is pinned, yet again, that was started back in March.

I mean, to be fair, Covid is still SLIGHTLY "relevant", lol...

Although I 100% agree. I personally see no reason for anyone to ever believe in "ghosts". Never saw one myself, and I never read about a case that could not be solidly explained via natural physical phenomena.

I believe people have souls, but I don't believe at all that they're capable of being filmed. Ever.

But that's just me. Who knows.

"Anti-vaxxers":
IF the passports become policy, of course, feel free to hand me your grocery lists when I go to Walmart. No worries. We're all in this together, right? I promise when I come out with my own groceries I won't just hand you back your list and laugh. Promise.
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02-15-2021 09:06 PM

 




Post: #36
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
In a nutshell, ghosts are projections of (usally emotional) energy absorbed into the surrounding area, possibly related to magnetic fluctuations.

They're a replay of an event at that past time akin to a movie clip and the ghost is not aware of you. A persons brainwave pattern has to be 'tuned in' to the correct frequency to see it and not everyones is or can be. Therefore some people see them frequently while others never see anything in their entire life.

They are more of an hallucinatory projection in nature rather than a physical one.

So in essence ghosts are around us all the time but not everyone perceives them.
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02-15-2021 09:32 PM

 




Post: #37
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Ghosts, apparitions and other intelligent groups have a technical advantage known as "expectations." Many are invisible yet discreet.

All evidence points to somewhere else. Gravity hosts are real; those are demonstrable in any high place, body of water or hungry lion.

Far easier to ask why no Tom Brady has posted regarding this hot button issue. Personally, who no Catholic has ever become, in magnanimity, become Evidence of Death, Hatred or Destruction, is an issue worthy of debate.

Perhaps, we can apply "real" to mean "authorized but all the funding has dried up in that particular direction". Excuses are all too real, feedback is quite expected, and avoiding work is evidence of a greater revelation.

For all questions, "Let's find out together." is evidence of a greater power and intelligence.
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02-15-2021 09:36 PM

 




Post: #38
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:06 PM)
In a nutshell, ghosts are projections of (usally emotional) energy absorbed into the surrounding area, possibly related to magnetic fluctuations.

They're a replay of an event at that past time akin to a movie clip and the ghost is not aware of you. A persons brainwave pattern has to be 'tuned in' to the correct frequency to see it and not everyones is or can be. Therefore some people see them frequently while others never see anything in their entire life.

They are more of an hallucinatory projection in nature rather than a physical one.

So in essence ghosts are around us all the time but not everyone perceives them.

Perhaps disincorporated entities, whose essential form has not dissipated or expended, in the counter-space.
Much like a tulpa or elementry, but their order of being is contained in the essence of an individual corporeal being's imagination. Where as ghosts, elementals, corporeality and such are contained with in The Creators mind, the ether, nature, reality, the song, the word, many terms for it.
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02-15-2021 09:41 PM

 




Post: #39
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:06 PM)
In a nutshell, ghosts are projections of (usally emotional) energy absorbed into the surrounding area, possibly related to magnetic fluctuations.

They're a replay of an event at that past time akin to a movie clip and the ghost is not aware of you. A persons brainwave pattern has to be 'tuned in' to the correct frequency to see it and not everyones is or can be. Therefore some people see them frequently while others never see anything in their entire life.

They are more of an hallucinatory projection in nature rather than a physical one.

So in essence ghosts are around us all the time but not everyone perceives them.



It's a very good/plausible analogy you make, actually it's a interesting thought, however poster User ID: 556888 claims the entity She's in touch with not only tells Her of events that are currently happening, but can also tell Her of past/ future events and I quote, . . " He was 2 mins ahead of his brother. He’s about to have a baby which is due on sept 15." ( 1st page post)

Now you see why I believe none of it, remember that Guy James Randi stage magician and scientific skeptic who extensively challenged paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. nobody ever, ever, ever claimed that 1 million dollars He offered for proof of an afterlife/ghosts/mediums talking to the dead, amazing isn't it?

I honestly believe people seeing Ghosts have an imbalance of sorts, I believe they are seeing something but the people standing next to them can't, and I don't think you need to be tuned in to any frequency.

May I add, I'm certainly not having a go at you or poster User ID: 556888, I'm just clearly stating my opinion on this matter, I don't believe in them whatsoever.
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LoP Guest
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02-15-2021 09:43 PM

 




Post: #40
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 07:03 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 12:00 PM)
U know I had someone come to me the other day. They said go ahead prove ur psychic. Il give u this wod of cash right now if u can knock my sicks off. I told him don’t trick me or test me, I don’t like it. He was so adamant, go on prove it.

So I shut him up lol. Said only u and ur mum know this. Big bro up there says he might be 2 mins older than u and can’t touch u but he watch’s u wen u get up in the night for a night cap. He knows what ur doing as he’s there. By this point his mouth has dropped. I continue.... he wants to let u know he is always there and will especially be with u on sept 15 2021.

His response to all that was omfg how do u know that sh*t lol

So his bro that’s in spirit was his twin brother who died an hour after birth. He was 2 mins ahead of his brother. He’s about to have a baby which is due on sept 15. He tried chucking all his money at me lol. Told him to spend it on his new baby.



Pretty much bowed me lol


So we have YOUR solemn word on that, and there lies the only testimony just your account on this matter, well knock me down with a feather!

Because you tell a story on the internet it's real? It might be real to you but not Me, and I mean no offense here, I don't believe in ghosts/ghouls/spirits/ psychics/seance or any other.
Not atsedbif u do or not tbf. Ur choice to be ignorant in who u really are and what reality really is. Ur call to wake up
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02-15-2021 09:50 PM

 




Post: #41
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Believe Me I'm fully awake.
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02-15-2021 09:51 PM

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Post: #42
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
I have a short EVP of a woman saying hello where I used to work and I was the only one in the area at the time

I also have possibly evidence of at least being guided by something to the location of where a murder victim's body was dumped and then being brought to the house where she was murdered after visiting the first site. This one is actually documented in a thread I made here.
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02-15-2021 09:58 PM

 




Post: #43
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:41 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:06 PM)
In a nutshell, ghosts are projections of (usally emotional) energy absorbed into the surrounding area, possibly related to magnetic fluctuations.

They're a replay of an event at that past time akin to a movie clip and the ghost is not aware of you. A persons brainwave pattern has to be 'tuned in' to the correct frequency to see it and not everyones is or can be. Therefore some people see them frequently while others never see anything in their entire life.

They are more of an hallucinatory projection in nature rather than a physical one.

So in essence ghosts are around us all the time but not everyone perceives them.



It's a very good/plausible analogy you make, actually it's a interesting thought, however poster User ID: 556888 claims the entity She's in touch with not only tells Her of events that are currently happening, but can also tell Her of past/ future events and I quote, . . " He was 2 mins ahead of his brother. He’s about to have a baby which is due on sept 15." ( 1st page post)

Now you see why I believe none of it, remember that Guy James Randi stage magician and scientific skeptic who extensively challenged paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. nobody ever, ever, ever claimed that 1 million dollars He offered for proof of an afterlife/ghosts/mediums talking to the dead, amazing isn't it?

I honestly believe people seeing Ghosts have an imbalance of sorts, I believe they are seeing something but the people standing next to them can't, and I don't think you need to be tuned in to any frequency.

May I add, I'm certainly not having a go at you or poster User ID: 556888, I'm just clearly stating my opinion on this matter, I don't believe in them whatsoever.

What she describes are not ghosts but rather spirits for want of a better word. Ghosts are recordings while spirits are different entities.
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02-15-2021 10:02 PM

 




Post: #44
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Ok I fully understand,

May I say spirits/ghosts/paranormal, are problems happening in the brain of the person seeing them, an imbalance if I may.
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Sing-I'llSway
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02-15-2021 10:28 PM

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Post: #45
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:41 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:06 PM)
In a nutshell, ghosts are projections of (usally emotional) energy absorbed into the surrounding area, possibly related to magnetic fluctuations.

They're a replay of an event at that past time akin to a movie clip and the ghost is not aware of you. A persons brainwave pattern has to be 'tuned in' to the correct frequency to see it and not everyones is or can be. Therefore some people see them frequently while others never see anything in their entire life.

They are more of an hallucinatory projection in nature rather than a physical one.

So in essence ghosts are around us all the time but not everyone perceives them.



It's a very good/plausible analogy you make, actually it's a interesting thought, however poster User ID: 556888 claims the entity She's in touch with not only tells Her of events that are currently happening, but can also tell Her of past/ future events and I quote, . . " He was 2 mins ahead of his brother. He’s about to have a baby which is due on sept 15." ( 1st page post)

Now you see why I believe none of it, remember that Guy James Randi stage magician and scientific skeptic who extensively challenged paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. nobody ever, ever, ever claimed that 1 million dollars He offered for proof of an afterlife/ghosts/mediums talking to the dead, amazing isn't it?

I honestly believe people seeing Ghosts have an imbalance of sorts, I believe they are seeing something but the people standing next to them can't, and I don't think you need to be tuned in to any frequency.

May I add, I'm certainly not having a go at you or poster User ID: 556888, I'm just clearly stating my opinion on this matter, I don't believe in them whatsoever.

This is basically how I feel as well.

I just personally reject any idea that "frequencies" must be tuned in, in order to "see" "ghosts", because frequencies should be able to be detected. Or else they're not...frequencies.

Hence, "ghosts" should be detectable as any radio station, IF they're a product OF frequency.


If somebody just believes they saw a "ghost", or swears they saw one, sincerely, I actually am fine with that. That's more akin to faith. You can't "prove" a person's faith is "wrong".

But when people start to apply allegedly "scientific" "evidence" to back up claims of "ghost", such as "frequencies", or "EVP's", that's something else entirely. At that point, people are trying to fuse together their faith and science. And I just personally believe that faith and science should be kept as far apart as possible, lol....And I say that as a practicing Catholic.

Obviously, as a Catholic I have my spiritual beliefs. But I keep them well reigned in within the boundaries of faith.

I will never try to use "science" to justify any aspect of any of my faith. That's a slippery slope that never leads anywhere good.

Faith is faith. Science is science.

"Anti-vaxxers":
IF the passports become policy, of course, feel free to hand me your grocery lists when I go to Walmart. No worries. We're all in this together, right? I promise when I come out with my own groceries I won't just hand you back your list and laugh. Promise.
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