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If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
The Ghost of Brix
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
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everything about ghosts is explained in a book,

it is called the astral body by a.e powell,

everything..

ghosts are real,

they are the energetic envelope of the dead body...

that does not want to leave the physical realm,

i had a student who had the ability to see people who had passed away,

some people have this ability,

it is rare but some have it,

i asked him...

where do you see them most?

he said....around cementeries,

he said...whenever i pass by a cementary...i see them walking around there...

the 7th subplane of the astral realm is next to the physical realm,

that is where most people go after death,

the astral realm is a purging area before the soul goes to the mental realm and from there to devachan...the resting place...before reincarnating again,

why do we reincarnate?

because we are afflicted with the three poisons...

greed, confusion and hatred...

these three poisons create karma for the soul...

so when the soul is in devachan resting...after a LONG TIME....IT BEGINS TO THIRST FOR TRISHNA....SENTIENT LIFE...

and the moment it gets near the mental realm....the next step down...

karma is waiting there and pulls the soul down into the reincarnational cycle,

this is an endless cycle that can only be broken by eliminating desire of any kind,

in tibet liberation from reincarnation is described as the putting out of light in a lamp,

the fire representing desire...of any type...

any type of desire will pull you back...

the most common being the desire for pleasures of the flesh...

the soul comes into the physical realm to master all the elements of existence,

but the desires of the flesh confuse the soul and chain it to the reincarnational cycle...

Beware: It is not a vaccine, it is genetic modification575013
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
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Post: #48
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
There are rules and secrets in the other realm.

Rules that must be respected and secrets that must be kept.

Even if spirits that died and must haunt for reasons that extremely complex,not only their lives but the lives of those before them and those that are still on Earth,them the spirits or entities are aware of you just like they were on Earth but without the possibility to manifest because of those rules and those secrets.

One day each and one of you will know:)

And there and other things that aren't for your eyes and ears in your body Humans:)

Look into my eyes to see a Paradise of Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqtHu0XFal0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo7PY4vbQLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTm9ui-26F0
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Post: #49
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
I take it Ghosts can only appear if they where buried first is that correct?

If that's the case then they can't possibly appear if they where cremated is this correct?

Because I've looked at the definition of Ghosts and supposedly and I quote, . .

"A ghosts’ death was usually unexpected, abrupt, tragic, or a murder. In most cases, they have not come to realize that they have actually died… causing further discomfort and more of an internal turmoil".

So can they hang around graveyards if they where murdered then cremated?

The mind boggles it really does.

I still won't believe in them, no matter.
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Post: #50
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
The Ghost of Brix  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:55 PM)
everything about ghosts is explained in a book,

it is called the astral body by a.e powell,

everything..

ghosts are real,

they are the enrgetic envelope of the dead body...

that does not want to leave the physical realm,

i had a student who had the ability to see people who had passed away,

some people have this ability,

it is rare but some have it,

i asked him...

where do you see them most?

he said....around cementeries,

he said...whenever i pass by a cementary...i see them walking around there...

the 7th subplane of the astral realm is next to the physical realm,

that is where most people go after death,

the astral realm is a purging area before the soul goes to the mental realm and from there to devachan...the resting place...before reincarnating again,

why do we reincarnate?

because we are afflicted with the three poisons...

greed, confusion and hatred...

these three poisons create karma for the soul...

so when the soul is in devachan resting...after a LONG TIME....IT BEGINS TO THIRST FOR TRISHNA....SENTIENT LIFE...

and the moment it gets near the mental realm....the next step down...

karma is waiting there and pulls the soul down into the reincarnational cycle,

this is an endless cycle that can only be broken by eliminating desire of any kind,

in tibet liberation from reincarnation is described as the putting out of light in a lamp,

the fire representing desire...of any type...

any type of desire will pull you back...

the most common being the desire for pleasures of the flesh...

the soul comes into the physical realm to master all the elements of existence,

but the desires of the flesh confuse the soul and chain it to the reincarnational cycle...

That is the best description I have read so far...
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Flat earthers seem offended. Lmao
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:02 PM)
Ok I fully understand,

May I say spirits/ghosts/paranormal, are problems happening in the brain of the person seeing them, an imbalance if I may.

No, their brains are functioning perfectly normally (if normal is a thing).

We speak of Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Theta and Delta wave patterns but it doesn't mean that every person's wave patterns are exactly the same and it's these differences that make ALL the difference. If the frequencies of the experiencer match those of the person from whom it originates a sighting will occur.

I didn't mean hallucinatory in the sense of chemical imbalance but rather the triggering of frequencies activating areas of the brain allowing them to perceive the images being played back at the same set of frequencies. I suppose one could compare it to the handshake between two computers or peripherals to allow them to communicate.

The playback of the ghost image is actually there, it's just that not everyone can see it.

There was an event in the London Underground (I think) some years ago when workers were digging or renovating a tunnel. They saw Roman soldiers march through the wall on one side and disappear through the other. Interestingly not all the workers saw this and those that did were not stood in a group. Of course, they could have prearranged a joke but they said the soldiers legs were cut off at the knees. A strange thing for average construction workers with no particular interest in the subject to say. This indicates that ground level when the soldiers were there would have been lower.

This one I could find is similar and again with the apparitions cut off at the knees.

https://imaginespirit.com/ghostly-roman-legion/
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Post: #53
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:28 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:41 PM)
It's a very good/plausible analogy you make, actually it's a interesting thought, however poster User ID: 556888 claims the entity She's in touch with not only tells Her of events that are currently happening, but can also tell Her of past/ future events and I quote, . . " He was 2 mins ahead of his brother. He’s about to have a baby which is due on sept 15." ( 1st page post)

Now you see why I believe none of it, remember that Guy James Randi stage magician and scientific skeptic who extensively challenged paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. nobody ever, ever, ever claimed that 1 million dollars He offered for proof of an afterlife/ghosts/mediums talking to the dead, amazing isn't it?

I honestly believe people seeing Ghosts have an imbalance of sorts, I believe they are seeing something but the people standing next to them can't, and I don't think you need to be tuned in to any frequency.

May I add, I'm certainly not having a go at you or poster User ID: 556888, I'm just clearly stating my opinion on this matter, I don't believe in them whatsoever.

This is basically how I feel as well.

I just personally reject any idea that "frequencies" must be tuned in, in order to "see" "ghosts", because frequencies should be able to be detected. Or else they're not...frequencies.

Hence, "ghosts" should be detectable as any radio station, IF they're a product OF frequency.


If somebody just believes they saw a "ghost", or swears they saw one, sincerely, I actually am fine with that. That's more akin to faith. You can't "prove" a person's faith is "wrong".

But when people start to apply allegedly "scientific" "evidence" to back up claims of "ghost", such as "frequencies", or "EVP's", that's something else entirely. At that point, people are trying to fuse together their faith and science. And I just personally believe that faith and science should be kept as far apart as possible, lol....And I say that as a practicing Catholic.

Obviously, as a Catholic I have my spiritual beliefs. But I keep them well reigned in within the boundaries of faith.

I will never try to use "science" to justify any aspect of any of my faith. That's a slippery slope that never leads anywhere good.

Faith is faith. Science is science.

I wrote the post you're referring to and I'm a psychologist for the HSE so I am a scientist. I just don't have a problem mixing the two. There should be more of it about because we would understand so much more.
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Post: #54
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
The Ghost of Brix  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:55 PM)
everything about ghosts is explained in a book,

it is called the astral body by a.e powell,

everything..

ghosts are real,

they are the enrgetic envelope of the dead body...

that does not want to leave the physical realm,

i had a student who had the ability to see people who had passed away,

some people have this ability,

it is rare but some have it,

i asked him...

where do you see them most?

he said....around cementeries,

he said...whenever i pass by a cementary...i see them walking around there...

the 7th subplane of the astral realm is next to the physical realm,

that is where most people go after death,

the astral realm is a purging area before the soul goes to the mental realm and from there to devachan...the resting place...before reincarnating again,

why do we reincarnate?

because we are afflicted with the three poisons...

greed, confusion and hatred...

these three poisons create karma for the soul...

so when the soul is in devachan resting...after a LONG TIME....IT BEGINS TO THIRST FOR TRISHNA....SENTIENT LIFE...

and the moment it gets near the mental realm....the next step down...

karma is waiting there and pulls the soul down into the reincarnational cycle,

this is an endless cycle that can only be broken by eliminating desire of any kind,

in tibet liberation from reincarnation is described as the putting out of light in a lamp,

the fire representing desire...of any type...

any type of desire will pull you back...

the most common being the desire for pleasures of the flesh...

the soul comes into the physical realm to master all the elements of existence,

but the desires of the flesh confuse the soul and chain it to the reincarnational cycle...

You believe all that wild sh*t....because of a single book.

Yet an MD with years of training and education, who has dedicated their entire adult life to helping people and actually studying disease, would say, plainly, that widespread Covid-vaccination is how we end this pandemic...and you would think you were being lied to.


Behold. The mind of an ideological fundamentalist.

God willing, the plague of "anti-vaxxerism" evaporates sooner than later. Right now, in my strong opinion, it's the most dangerous fundamentalist belief on Earth. It literally increases the existential threat of Covid.

"Anti-vaxxers":
IF the passports become policy, of course, feel free to hand me your grocery lists when I go to Walmart. No worries. We're all in this together, right? I promise when I come out with my own groceries I won't just hand you back your list and laugh. Promise.
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Because they won't let's have the power packs. Duhhh!

;)
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 11:53 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:02 PM)
Ok I fully understand,

May I say spirits/ghosts/paranormal, are problems happening in the brain of the person seeing them, an imbalance if I may.

No, their brains are functioning perfectly normally (if normal is a thing).

We speak of Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Theta and Delta wave patterns but it doesn't mean that every person's wave patterns are exactly the same and it's these differences that make ALL the difference. If the frequencies of the experiencer match those of the person from whom it originates a sighting will occur.

But since we can detect alpha waves, there are many problems with your ideas.

Again, if you want to just believe in "ghosts", have at it. But when you start trying to support your argument with alleged scientific proof, you have to expect that certain people are going to speak up about it.

You're claiming that for a "ghost" phenomenon to occur, two individuals (one alive, the other, presumably, "a ghost") must have "matching" alpha wave frequencies. At least this is what I've gathered from your post; all due respect, your grammar and sentence structure leaves a reader confused (for instance your statement: "...the person from whom it originates" is tricky to discern.)

I was curious, so I just went on the wiki-page for EEG's (which detect alpha waves.) This is just a random example of a random person's alpha waves, from an EEG:


[Image: c7ooC7z.png]




A lot of squiggly lines, yeah?

I'm not a neurologist, but as you also state above, it appears human beings don't ever have identical or "matching" EEG scans. That would be like having "matching" fingerprints.


So this brings up many questions. For instance:


1) How has anyone ever "proven" that a "ghost" and a living person must have "matching" alpha waves to interact?

2) How were "the ghost's" alpha waves measured at that time?

3) Was a "special type" of EEG used?

4) How is it that living people and "ghosts" somehow HAVE "matching" alpha waves at all, even though this phenomenon does not occur during life?

5) What specific experiments have ever been done to prove any of this?




The title of this thread addresses, literally, whether there is evidence concerning alleged existence of "ghosts". This is why I'm being such a stickler. But I'm being a reasonable stickler. These are all reasonable questions any objective, logical person should be asking, if we're introducing scientific terms and instruments into a discussion of "ghost" evidence.

"Anti-vaxxers":
IF the passports become policy, of course, feel free to hand me your grocery lists when I go to Walmart. No worries. We're all in this together, right? I promise when I come out with my own groceries I won't just hand you back your list and laugh. Promise.
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Post: #57
RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:28 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2021 09:41 PM)
It's a very good/plausible analogy you make, actually it's a interesting thought, however poster User ID: 556888 claims the entity She's in touch with not only tells Her of events that are currently happening, but can also tell Her of past/ future events and I quote, . . " He was 2 mins ahead of his brother. He’s about to have a baby which is due on sept 15." ( 1st page post)

Now you see why I believe none of it, remember that Guy James Randi stage magician and scientific skeptic who extensively challenged paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. nobody ever, ever, ever claimed that 1 million dollars He offered for proof of an afterlife/ghosts/mediums talking to the dead, amazing isn't it?

I honestly believe people seeing Ghosts have an imbalance of sorts, I believe they are seeing something but the people standing next to them can't, and I don't think you need to be tuned in to any frequency.

May I add, I'm certainly not having a go at you or poster User ID: 556888, I'm just clearly stating my opinion on this matter, I don't believe in them whatsoever.

This is basically how I feel as well.

I just personally reject any idea that "frequencies" must be tuned in, in order to "see" "ghosts", because frequencies should be able to be detected. Or else they're not...frequencies.

Hence, "ghosts" should be detectable as any radio station, IF they're a product OF frequency.


If somebody just believes they saw a "ghost", or swears they saw one, sincerely, I actually am fine with that. That's more akin to faith. You can't "prove" a person's faith is "wrong".

But when people start to apply allegedly "scientific" "evidence" to back up claims of "ghost", such as "frequencies", or "EVP's", that's something else entirely. At that point, people are trying to fuse together their faith and science. And I just personally believe that faith and science should be kept as far apart as possible, lol....And I say that as a practicing Catholic.

Obviously, as a Catholic I have my spiritual beliefs. But I keep them well reigned in within the boundaries of faith.

I will never try to use "science" to justify any aspect of any of my faith. That's a slippery slope that never leads anywhere good.

Faith is faith. Science is science.

Catholic? Ever read Sister Miriam Joesph's Liberal Arts? Some answers, or heavy allusions both centred around monastic metaphysics, of a more friendly to you're paradigms alignment, may, perhaps be found there, and a good thing for any young ones you may know.
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (02-16-2021 12:12 AM)
The Ghost of Brix  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:55 PM)
everything about ghosts is explained in a book,

it is called the astral body by a.e powell,

everything..

ghosts are real,

they are the enrgetic envelope of the dead body...

that does not want to leave the physical realm,

i had a student who had the ability to see people who had passed away,

some people have this ability,

it is rare but some have it,

i asked him...

where do you see them most?

he said....around cementeries,

he said...whenever i pass by a cementary...i see them walking around there...

the 7th subplane of the astral realm is next to the physical realm,

that is where most people go after death,

the astral realm is a purging area before the soul goes to the mental realm and from there to devachan...the resting place...before reincarnating again,

why do we reincarnate?

because we are afflicted with the three poisons...

greed, confusion and hatred...

these three poisons create karma for the soul...

so when the soul is in devachan resting...after a LONG TIME....IT BEGINS TO THIRST FOR TRISHNA....SENTIENT LIFE...

and the moment it gets near the mental realm....the next step down...

karma is waiting there and pulls the soul down into the reincarnational cycle,

this is an endless cycle that can only be broken by eliminating desire of any kind,

in tibet liberation from reincarnation is described as the putting out of light in a lamp,

the fire representing desire...of any type...

any type of desire will pull you back...

the most common being the desire for pleasures of the flesh...

the soul comes into the physical realm to master all the elements of existence,

but the desires of the flesh confuse the soul and chain it to the reincarnational cycle...

You believe all that wild sh*t....because of a single book.

Yet an MD with years of training and education, who has dedicated their entire adult life to helping people and actually studying disease, would say, plainly, that widespread Covid-vaccination is how we end this pandemic...and you would think you were being lied to.


Behold. The mind of an ideological fundamentalist.

God willing, the plague of "anti-vaxxerism" evaporates sooner than later. Right now, in my strong opinion, it's the most dangerous fundamentalist belief on Earth. It literally increases the existential threat of Covid.

you are very dense,

i mentioned the book because it describes the afterlife,

the rest is tibetan buddhism,

you need to get off your vaccine agenda and concentrate on the topic at hand,

that is why no one respects you here on the board,

you have zero credibility...

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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (02-16-2021 12:12 AM)
The Ghost of Brix  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:55 PM)
everything about ghosts is explained in a book,

it is called the astral body by a.e powell,

everything..

ghosts are real,

they are the enrgetic envelope of the dead body...

that does not want to leave the physical realm,

i had a student who had the ability to see people who had passed away,

some people have this ability,

it is rare but some have it,

i asked him...

where do you see them most?

he said....around cementeries,

he said...whenever i pass by a cementary...i see them walking around there...

the 7th subplane of the astral realm is next to the physical realm,

that is where most people go after death,

the astral realm is a purging area before the soul goes to the mental realm and from there to devachan...the resting place...before reincarnating again,

why do we reincarnate?

because we are afflicted with the three poisons...

greed, confusion and hatred...

these three poisons create karma for the soul...

so when the soul is in devachan resting...after a LONG TIME....IT BEGINS TO THIRST FOR TRISHNA....SENTIENT LIFE...

and the moment it gets near the mental realm....the next step down...

karma is waiting there and pulls the soul down into the reincarnational cycle,

this is an endless cycle that can only be broken by eliminating desire of any kind,

in tibet liberation from reincarnation is described as the putting out of light in a lamp,

the fire representing desire...of any type...

any type of desire will pull you back...

the most common being the desire for pleasures of the flesh...

the soul comes into the physical realm to master all the elements of existence,

but the desires of the flesh confuse the soul and chain it to the reincarnational cycle...

You believe all that wild sh*t....because of a single book.

Yet an MD with years of training and education, who has dedicated their entire adult life to helping people and actually studying disease, would say, plainly, that widespread Covid-vaccination is how we end this pandemic...and you would think you were being lied to.


Behold. The mind of an ideological fundamentalist.

God willing, the plague of "anti-vaxxerism" evaporates sooner than later. Right now, in my strong opinion, it's the most dangerous fundamentalist belief on Earth. It literally increases the existential threat of Covid.

And if he has like wise doctors saying other wise?
Behold, what terms are sufficient character assassination returned?
Fundamentalist? Allusions of 'most dangerous'? lol
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RE: If ghosts are real, apparitions are real, why no evidence?
The Ghost of Brix  Wrote: (02-15-2021 10:55 PM)
everything about ghosts is explained in a book,

it is called the astral body by a.e powell,

everything..

ghosts are real,

they are the energetic envelope of the dead body...

that does not want to leave the physical realm,

i had a student who had the ability to see people who had passed away,

some people have this ability,

it is rare but some have it,

i asked him...

where do you see them most?

he said....around cementeries,

he said...whenever i pass by a cementary...i see them walking around there...

the 7th subplane of the astral realm is next to the physical realm,

that is where most people go after death,

the astral realm is a purging area before the soul goes to the mental realm and from there to devachan...the resting place...before reincarnating again,

why do we reincarnate?

because we are afflicted with the three poisons...

greed, confusion and hatred...

these three poisons create karma for the soul...

so when the soul is in devachan resting...after a LONG TIME....IT BEGINS TO THIRST FOR TRISHNA....SENTIENT LIFE...

and the moment it gets near the mental realm....the next step down...

karma is waiting there and pulls the soul down into the reincarnational cycle,

this is an endless cycle that can only be broken by eliminating desire of any kind,

in tibet liberation from reincarnation is described as the putting out of light in a lamp,

the fire representing desire...of any type...

any type of desire will pull you back...

the most common being the desire for pleasures of the flesh...

the soul comes into the physical realm to master all the elements of existence,

but the desires of the flesh confuse the soul and chain it to the reincarnational cycle...

When children are harmed between 0-3, they can develop a love that has been taught as pain, destruction. To love others or themselves, will be tainted by this modus of loving expression, tainted by this, original sin. If I recall a Sam Vankin lecture correctly.

Late term abortion, they leave babies to slowly die, from cold, neglect, hunger, and intense derealizing fear of being ignored by the warm bodied nurses that put them, and leave others there.

If there are demons, if they rule, perhaps the source of many them is not so great a mystery.
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