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To Catch a Time Traveler
YikkaFarius
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starrynights  Wrote: (02-23-2021 10:36 AM)
If time travel is possible, we will probably be able to prove it before this thread is over.

http://books.google.com/

This is a hypothetical example of what we might look for:

Suppose that a time traveler visits 1816. They go to a tavern, have a few drinks, and get into some trivial conversations with people from the century. A farmer mentions difficulties with garnering the years' crops due to the Year Without a Summer. In a drunken stupor, the time traveler says it must be "The Day After Tomorrow" due to the climate change difficulties.

Despite the blunder, the Time Traveler's cover wouldn't be blown by this. No one in 1816 knows that The Day After Tomorrow is a movie. However, we do know what The Day After Tomorrow is, and if we were to see 19th century usage of 'The Day After Tomorrow' in reference to a changing climate, severe winter, or draught, it could well be evidence of time travel.

What we're looking for are modern words or expressions that are being used as loan words in the past. 18th, 19th, and even 20th century writers may have encountered such time travelers and incorporated future-words into their vocabulary. The specific definitions such words or expressions might change, but as long as usage has a relatively similar meaning, it definitely merits further investigation!

I've seen some minor evidence that this might be occurring through my usage of Google Books, but no smoking gun as of yet. I haven't found anything that couldn't just be an entirely logical early coining of a word. I'm hoping you all will help me find something interesting here!

Come-on-maannnn,.. (I'm trying to say it like JayBiden) time travel must be super common. I just looked at a 1909 dictionary and they seem to have stolen EVERY WORD IN IT from the future. It's so weird, almost like they were using the same language back then as we do in the future.

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RD, d-wave
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Honestly, ableist language in this all-atheist forum will indeed attract time travelers, if time travelers are able to be discreet yet invisible in guiding your narrative. Able travelers do exist. A name tag of "Hi, my name is Able Traveler" cannot change the underlying identity of the time traveler underneath it all.

Many can be seeking the cure for dyslexia in their future dystopia. If they are indeed bootstrapping, a simple common switcheroo can secure the cure for dystopia in their future dyslexia. We, primitive targets of unknown highly-advanced healing fields of force, can notice "stop" and "slex", "athe" and "heat", "duality" and "gravity", because of "past" and "future". That is our "present" to readers, viewers and challengers to this contemporary era.

To coach a time traveler is to spread our disease to all available epochs, so that we may rebuild our violent, intrusive and warlike nature into their peaceful, boring and pacifist lifestyles. Some captcha also serve as a Turing tarpit, and all your personal problems can be solved by a time traveler too busy to stay and chat.

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There are no time travellers, you can't travel along something that doesn't exist.

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Lamentable spectacle of yours.. you keep using words like 'catch', 'capture', 'seize', and 'overcome', and you still wonder why those with the whole universe at their fingertips never show up in your neck of the woods. I have a few threads on the subject, and have learned they will only come when it's in their interest. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, present-dwellers.

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Post: #21
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Samazael nli  Wrote: (02-23-2021 11:21 AM)
This is really interesting. Finding anomalies where there shouldn't be. I'd say it's worth a shot.


There's even a name for physical anomalies:


Ooparts: (Out of Place Artefacts)

"If a single, well verified mammal skull were to turn up in 500 million year old rocks, our whole modern theory of evolution would be utterly destroyed": (Quote: Richard Dawkins).

This contentious group of anomalous artefacts includes anthropomorphic discoveries which have been found in geological strata formed before humans are believed to have existed.

At present, all the following artefacts are classified as 'anomalous' or 'fake'. Should just one of these discoveries ever be verified by the scientific establishment, it would force a reappraisal of either the processes of geology or the theory of human development... http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/ooparts.htm
https://www.ancient-origins.net/oopart
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If there were a time traveler form the future, and that future was terrible, then one could find a time traveler living out his life quietly in someplace fairly secluded. If the future was awesome, then the time traveler would come, do whatever they came to do and leave.

I would like to believe the future will be awesome. I suspect that until the government remembers that they work for the people, it won't be an awesome future. These days it's the government issuing edicts and the people who have to comply or else. That is not a government of the people, for the people.

I would not expect any time traveler to do anything big. No huge lottery wins, no celebrity status, no giving themselves away. I would wonder if they control the times and places people could travel.. if they could actually time travel. Like no killing Hitler, no curing cancer...etc...

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This isn't criticism but analysis,

Evidence of something existing today, that is known to also have existed in the past is not evidence of time travel.

What is being displayed is only evidence of confirmation bias.

You would like to find a written message from a time traveler. So you find documented occurrences that fit the desired narrative.

*in this case it's more documented occurrences that can be loosely attached to the desired narrative.

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original line from Shakespere's Julius Caesar : "I come to not to praise Caesar but to dis him. For he has ghosted me many times."
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Post: #25
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It will take more then that to catch us. The nearest I ever been to being caught was when I accidently told a young girl she would be famous later on in life.
She is very famous her initials are S.H.
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starrynights  Wrote: (02-23-2021 10:36 AM)
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In a drunken stupor, the time traveler says it must be "The Day After Tomorrow" due to the climate change difficulties.

What we're looking for are modern words or expressions that are being used as loan words in the past. 18th, 19th, and even 20th century writers may have encountered such time travelers and incorporated future-words into their vocabulary. The specific definitions such words or expressions might change, but as long as usage has a relatively similar meaning, it definitely merits further investigation!

I don't think you would find much evidence like that.. But if you said stuff like, 'when do you think we will be able to pay off the national debt'. Or, 'Im going to move to antarctica, when global warming sets in, and grow almonds and avocados. Or, 'we need open borders, if we really want to save humanity'. You might get a spontaneous, hysterical, bit of dark, sarcastic, on the edge of insanity/doom, laughter. Or perhaps, a fit of hopeless sobbing. And, then you would know, why, they came back to the past Wink

Seriously? I suppose I would look for anomalous , lottery winners, Sports/racetrack bet winners, stock market winners. Inventers. Etc.
But that would not prove physical time travel. Just suggest some kind of precognition., or other ambiguous ability, or assistance.

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I think time travel is very possible but with an infinite amount of timelines, that makes it extremely hard to stay on a specific timeline that you may be currently on.

For example, you may want to time travel back in time to where JFK was shot and find out that he wasn't shot in that timeline or that it happens on a different day.

And since the future is not fixed, you may travel on to the future and somehow make it back on your timeline and tell people about what you seen only to find later that you end up with a different future then you seen. Which why telling the future is next to impossible also with so many variations of timelines. You can see where the energies are going but they can change very fast.

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Ms Johanna Strange  Wrote: (02-23-2021 11:44 AM)
The problem with this idea is that once the phrase was picked up in the past you would never know that it wasn't started in the past. That's how time works.

Exactly.

How would one know the difference?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyKIzd93l0A

The answer: One would have to have come from the future where something like that didn't happen until much later in time, in order to be able to recognize the untimely use of the suspicious reference.

In other words... only a time traveler from the future would be able to recognize other time travelers from the future, and only those (the latter) who have come from the former's past (or his/her present, at the latest).
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