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OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:52 PM)
The poor cat and the 2 Guinea Pigs ....

Funny how THEY weren't poisoned !

I'm guessing that that the cat and Guinea pigs didn't go outside and turn the front door handle. Lazy British gunea pigs never go outside and let themselves back into the house that way.

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Post: #32
RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
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silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:39 PM)
Why it is all a bunch of hogwash...

Silversides do you know why I got dozens of "internal server 500 errors" just from typing phrases like but not only;

biological samples taken from

Yulia and Sergai

Russian Foreign minister Lavrov

Salisbury

selectively leak

It was very weird, no odd phrases or special character, just ordinary words???

DDos protection...

The post are too long...

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Post: #33
RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
engineering  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:55 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:52 PM)
Silversides do you know why I got dozens of "internal server 500 errors" just from typing phrases like but not only;

biological samples taken from

Yulia and Sergai

Russian Foreign minister Lavrov

Salisbury

selectively leak

It was very weird, no odd phrases or special character, just ordinary words???

This has happened to me before when trying to post a windows directory where logs about everything you do on your device & internet is stored

Yes I can understand getting those errors with special characters ( unix / html / regular expressions ) and reserved words but not just ordinary and innocent sounding words and phrases. Maybe I'm being paranoid but it took for ever to post the first post with dozens of different innocent words and phrases causing the error.
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Post: #34
RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Reality Check  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:20 PM)
No one doubts the sophistication of the Russian propaganda machine and its mastery of the internet and social media so it comes as little surprise that the independent report into the poisoning of the Skripals in Salisbury last month has received the full Russian propaganda push including selective leaking and amplification through broadcast and online media.

With the publication of the OPCW report that confirms Britain's original analysis that the Skripals have been poisoned by a Novichock agent,

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/

the Russians were left with a problem and a potential propaganda solution. The Russian ambassador to London had already leaked that the British had identified the toxin as being A-234 ( N-2-diethylaminomethylacetamidido-ethoxyphosphonofluoridate ) an organophosphate nerve agent developed in the Soviet Union under the Foliant program, referred to as a Novichok agent

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43377698

and now the OPCW officially confirmed that fact in its thorough independent sampling of various sites around Salisbury and in biological samples of the victims.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

The detailed chemical analysis was made available to all signatories to the chemical weapons convention, but not the general public. Russia then used this information disparity to selectively leak fragments of the data to misdirect the blame away.

Sergay Lavrov, the Russian foreign secretary leaked data supplied by Spiez lab, a Swiss lab that identified the Novichock A-234 nerve agent as well as evidence of a short lived incapacitant BZ ( 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate ). By emphasising BZ and downplaying A-234 the message was an attempt to confuse the public as to the source and nature of the poisoning.

One strand of this misdirection was the suggestion that BZ was somehow a western chemical weapon but it was actually invented by the Swiss pharmaceutical company Hoffman-LaRoche in 1951 but was most famously used by the Russian security services during the Moscow theatre siege of 2003

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3340693/t/bz-i...tL849-YVOA

BZ only has a short period of action, 24 to 48 hours at most but Sergai has been in intensive care for a month and Yulia for over three week. The OPCW has biological samples that confirm the use A-234 but strangely Lavrov didn't want to leak that part of the evidence.


Lshsgpda Lshsgpda :lshsgpda


I just read both OPCW reports that you posted in full and neither one of them confirms the use of the Novichock agent.

I encourage readers to do the same, don't trust the fcuking shills on LOP.




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Post: #35
RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:17 PM)
Reality Check  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:20 PM)
No one doubts the sophistication of the Russian propaganda machine and its mastery of the internet and social media so it comes as little surprise that the independent report into the poisoning of the Skripals in Salisbury last month has received the full Russian propaganda push including selective leaking and amplification through broadcast and online media.

With the publication of the OPCW report that confirms Britain's original analysis that the Skripals have been poisoned by a Novichock agent,

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/

the Russians were left with a problem and a potential propaganda solution. The Russian ambassador to London had already leaked that the British had identified the toxin as being A-234 ( N-2-diethylaminomethylacetamidido-ethoxyphosphonofluoridate ) an organophosphate nerve agent developed in the Soviet Union under the Foliant program, referred to as a Novichok agent

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43377698

and now the OPCW officially confirmed that fact in its thorough independent sampling of various sites around Salisbury and in biological samples of the victims.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

The detailed chemical analysis was made available to all signatories to the chemical weapons convention, but not the general public. Russia then used this information disparity to selectively leak fragments of the data to misdirect the blame away.

Sergay Lavrov, the Russian foreign secretary leaked data supplied by Spiez lab, a Swiss lab that identified the Novichock A-234 nerve agent as well as evidence of a short lived incapacitant BZ ( 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate ). By emphasising BZ and downplaying A-234 the message was an attempt to confuse the public as to the source and nature of the poisoning.

One strand of this misdirection was the suggestion that BZ was somehow a western chemical weapon but it was actually invented by the Swiss pharmaceutical company Hoffman-LaRoche in 1951 but was most famously used by the Russian security services during the Moscow theatre siege of 2003

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3340693/t/bz-i...tL849-YVOA

BZ only has a short period of action, 24 to 48 hours at most but Sergai has been in intensive care for a month and Yulia for over three week. The OPCW has biological samples that confirm the use A-234 but strangely Lavrov didn't want to leak that part of the evidence.


Lshsgpda Lshsgpda :lshsgpda


I just read both OPCW reports that you posted in full and neither one of them confirms the use of the Novichock agent.

I encourage readers to do the same, don't trust the fcuking shills on LOP.




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Post: #36
RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:43 PM)
Correct, Lavrov's spinning is hogwash the OPCW report is here for everyone to read.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

With the results confirming Novichock ( A-234 ) as the agent used, if we are to take the Russian Ambassador's leak as true.

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/

A chemical not a nation....

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Post: #37
RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Spiddy  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:42 PM)
Get real fella.
The Russians would never attempt to poison a traitor hiding overseas with a nerve agent designed to cause a slow and agonising death, a very public demonstration that there is no hiding place nor mercy for traitors.
That's just not how Russia rolls.

They had him in prison for 5 years prior to releasing him....makes no sense to do this.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Monk-1  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:44 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:43 PM)
Correct, Lavrov's spinning is hogwash the OPCW report is here for everyone to read.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

With the results confirming Novichock ( A-234 ) as the agent used, if we are to take the Russian Ambassador's leak as true.

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/

Who has the capability to make these things?

Former Warsaw Pact nations...

Or some nation that has the recipe...

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Post: #39
RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:19 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:43 PM)
Correct, Lavrov's spinning is hogwash the OPCW report is here for everyone to read.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

With the results confirming Novichock ( A-234 ) as the agent used, if we are to take the Russian Ambassador's leak as true.

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/

A chemical not a nation....

Neither report mentions the use of Novaichock, go read then for yourself.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
OP is posting lies OPCW reports do not mention Novichock as the cause.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:16 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:52 PM)
Silversides do you know why I got dozens of "internal server 500 errors" just from typing phrases like but not only;

biological samples taken from

Yulia and Sergai

Russian Foreign minister Lavrov

Salisbury

selectively leak

It was very weird, no odd phrases or special character, just ordinary words???

DDos protection...

The post are too long...

Thanks but I checked that by removing the offending phrase like "selectively leaked fr*m" ( try that one ) and then copying and pasting the preceding paragraphs many times to make a much longer post, and that previewed just fine. It was definitely a collection of trigger words and phrases that when removed made the post preview just fine.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Anyone ever looked into UK testing chemicals in secret on it's own population in recent history?
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:23 PM)
OP is posting lies OPCW reports do not mention Novichock as the cause.

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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:20 PM)
Monk-1  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:44 PM)
Who has the capability to make these things?

Former Warsaw Pact nations...

Or some nation that has the recipe...

Silversides the thread title is a lie, neither report the OP posted confirms the use of Novichock.

They are just general statements about their testing go look for yourself.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:27 PM)
silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:20 PM)
Former Warsaw Pact nations...

Or some nation that has the recipe...

Silversides the thread title is a lie, neither report the OP posted confirms the use of Novichock.

They are just general statements about their testing go look for yourself.

But USSR (poster) just posted a video where on RT they say Lavrov says OPCW may have misidentified the chemical as Novichock.
Even RT says OPCW identified it as Novichock. Just go back one page and there is the video...
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