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OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
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FreeFlow  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:46 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:35 PM)
Well you are just flat out wrong Ivan. The OPCW report says.

"The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people."

The British government, through the Porton Down lab have said "We were able to identify it as novichok, to identify that it was military-grade nerve agent."

The Russian ambassador, after being being summoned and informed of the findings leaked to the press "Alexander Yakovenko, has suggested British authorities have identified the variant used in the Skripal attack as A-234."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43377698

So you can stop spamming the thread with your large font indignation now.

Where is the related OPCW report that literally mentions Novichok (or A-234) was used against the Skripals ?

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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:39 PM)
Er no, change it back. You don't get to editorialise. The thread is about the confirmation of A-234 Novichock nerve agent and Lavrov and the Russian spinning of leaked sections of the data. Read my last post I made for confirmation that is is A-234 nerve agent, a Novichock chemical developed in the Soviet FOLIANT programme.

Your last post quoted the BBC NOT OPCW reports that you linked.

I thought so too

Here's why:
https://timeline.com/sophie-scholl-white...3901042c98
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Cmon people read the material...this thread went 3 pages before I stepped in and actually read the reports and found they contained no mention.
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FreeFlow  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:46 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:35 PM)
Well you are just flat out wrong Ivan. The OPCW report says.

"The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people."

The British government, through the Porton Down lab have said "We were able to identify it as novichok, to identify that it was military-grade nerve agent."

The Russian ambassador, after being being summoned and informed of the findings leaked to the press "Alexander Yakovenko, has suggested British authorities have identified the variant used in the Skripal attack as A-234."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43377698

So you can stop spamming the thread with your large font indignation now.

Where is the related OPCW report that literally mentions Novichok (or A-234) was used against the Skripals ?

All the information you need is quoted in the above post. The OPCW don't release the technical details to the public, just to the members. I have already said that. That's how Lavrov's elective leak worked, by not leaking much ( although he mentioned ) detail of A-234 or the biological samples he could play up BZ.

Here are the facts from the quotes.

OPCW confirm the British analysis of the specific agent.

Porton Down's analysis confirm it was a pure military grade ( state actor ) produced Novichock agent.

The Russian ambassador to London leaked that Porton down had identified the agent as the Novichock nerve agent A-234.
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silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:38 PM)
In my opinion Mr Skripal was likely a undependable person...

And a person with weak loyalties.

Who might decide to switch sides again...

And that was why he was killed...

There was a suggestion that he was working with GCHQ to identify the personnel of the Russian cyber warfare and internet propaganda network and that's why he became an FSB target again.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:58 PM)
FreeFlow  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:46 PM)
Where is the related OPCW report that literally mentions Novichok (or A-234) was used against the Skripals ?

All the information you need is quoted in the above post. The OPCW don't release the technical details to the public, just to the members. I have already said that. That's how Lavrov's elective leak worked, by not leaking much ( although he mentioned ) detail of A-234 or the biological samples he could play up BZ.

Here are the facts from the quotes.

OPCW confirm the British analysis of the specific agent.

Porton Down's analysis confirm it was a pure military grade ( state actor ) produced Novichock agent.

The Russian ambassador to London leaked that Porton down had identified the agent as the Novichock nerve agent A-234.

BBC is just as full of sh*t as RT if not more...they are government propaganda.

It is all hearsay and conjecture until the full report is released.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:58 PM)
FreeFlow  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:46 PM)
Where is the related OPCW report that literally mentions Novichok (or A-234) was used against the Skripals ?

All the information you need is quoted in the above post. The OPCW don't release the technical details to the public, just to the members. I have already said that. That's how Lavrov's elective leak worked, by not leaking much ( although he mentioned ) detail of A-234 or the biological samples he could play up BZ.

Here are the facts from the quotes.

OPCW confirm the British analysis of the specific agent.

Porton Down's analysis confirm it was a pure military grade ( state actor ) produced Novichock agent.

The Russian ambassador to London leaked that Porton down had identified the agent as the Novichock nerve agent A-234.

Porton Down is the likely culprit considering they are 5 miles away and the Russian's had him in jail for 5 years to do whatever they pleased.

Like they are going to make an international incident to kill someone by this method they already had jailed.

Use your brain...if you have one.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:23 PM)
OP is posting lies OPCW reports do not mention Novichock as the cause.

Well you are just flat out wrong Ivan. The OPCW report says.

"The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people."

The British government, through the Porton Down lab have said "We were able to identify it as novichok, to identify that it was military-grade nerve agent."

The Russian ambassador, after being being summoned and informed of the findings leaked to the press "Alexander Yakovenko, has suggested British authorities have identified the variant used in the Skripal attack as A-234."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43377698

So you can stop spamming the thread with your large font indignation now.

You are projecting your spam. Swiss state Spiez lab was given the samples and made a study on the basis of empirical scientific research, I.e,: research that has to stand up to Scientific peer review. We all know where the OPCW gets it budget from.

The OPCW is a Western Corporate political front....Everyone gets this. The Swiss Lab identified the agent....BZ toxin...That's the evidence. Spin away

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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Thunderchild  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:03 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 02:58 PM)
All the information you need is quoted in the above post. The OPCW don't release the technical details to the public, just to the members. I have already said that. That's how Lavrov's elective leak worked, by not leaking much ( although he mentioned ) detail of A-234 or the biological samples he could play up BZ.

Here are the facts from the quotes.

OPCW confirm the British analysis of the specific agent.

Porton Down's analysis confirm it was a pure military grade ( state actor ) produced Novichock agent.

The Russian ambassador to London leaked that Porton down had identified the agent as the Novichock nerve agent A-234.

BBC is just as full of sh*t as RT if not more...they are government propaganda.

It is all hearsay and conjecture until the full report is released.

Well no, the OPCW report confirms:

"The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people."

and if you want another source as to what the specific nerve agent identified by Porton Down was, try this from Reuters.

"Russia’s ambassador to Britain, Alexander Yakovenko, has identified the alleged poison as Novichok A-234, derived from an earlier version known as A-232."

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...KKCN1HC13O
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James  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:11 PM)
You are projecting your spam. Swiss state Spiez lab was given the samples and made a study on the basis of empirical scientific research, I.e,: research that has to stand up to Scientific peer review. We all know where the OPCW gets it budget from.

The OPCW is a Western Corporate political front....Everyone gets this. The Swiss Lab identified the agent....BZ toxin...That's the evidence. Spin away

Spiez lab was one of the labs given samples by the OPCW and its data along with other labs, including ones handling the biological samples fed into the final report. According to Lavrov's leak Spiez lab identified the Novichock nerve agent A-234 in the samples it had. So your post was your usual pro Russian spin, a bunch of noise and nonsense.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:11 PM)
Thunderchild  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:03 PM)
BBC is just as full of sh*t as RT if not more...they are government propaganda.

It is all hearsay and conjecture until the full report is released.

Well no, the OPCW report confirms:

"The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people."

and if you want another source as to what the specific nerve agent identified by Porton Down was, try this from Reuters.

"Russia’s ambassador to Britain, Alexander Yakovenko, has identified the alleged poison as Novichok A-234, derived from an earlier version known as A-232."

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...KKCN1HC13O

Quote:"Russia’s ambassador to Britain, Alexander Yakovenko, has identified the alleged poison as Novichok A-234, derived from an earlier version known as A-232."

What utter crap! Rofl





Slimy little non-truth by REUTERS Propaganda and Entertainment Inc. This thread just got boring.

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Look everyone!!!! REUTERS Inc. bust in a blatant lie!

Quote:Russia’s ambassador to Britain, Alexander Yakovenko, has identified the alleged poison as Novichok A-234, derived from an earlier version known as A-232.

This actually got past REUTERS editors!!!!

What unabashed liars!!! Reuters is just manufacturing BS and selling it as News.

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James  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:21 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:11 PM)
Well no, the OPCW report confirms:

"The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people."

and if you want another source as to what the specific nerve agent identified by Porton Down was, try this from Reuters.

"Russia’s ambassador to Britain, Alexander Yakovenko, has identified the alleged poison as Novichok A-234, derived from an earlier version known as A-232."

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...KKCN1HC13O

Quote:"Russia’s ambassador to Britain, Alexander Yakovenko, has identified the alleged poison as Novichok A-234, derived from an earlier version known as A-232."

Slimy little non-truth by REUTERS Propaganda and Entertainment Inc. This thread just got boring.

Yeah, Reuters, the worlds most respected independent news agency is "fake news" because one of LOPs resident Russian propagandists says so and now he has been proved wrong he is "bored"

How predictable, and hilarious.

Lmao
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It should be pretty obvious to any independent reader that this thread has come under the heavy shilling from Russian propagandists so it's a good time to point you at this thread too.

https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-24267.html

One thing I noticed while this thread was most active, the Lavrov official line of propaganda thread; "Swiss Lab Says 'BZ Toxin' Used In Skripal Poisoning; US/UK-Produced ... >MRGD<" was unpinned as it had been up for several hours at that point. Then within minutes it was re-pinned again. Obviously not having it stuck up there did not suit someone's agenda. Fortunately it was shortly unpinned again but who knows, maybe it will be back again...

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:20 PM)
James  Wrote: (04-15-2018 03:11 PM)
You are projecting your spam. Swiss state Spiez lab was given the samples and made a study on the basis of empirical scientific research, I.e,: research that has to stand up to Scientific peer review. We all know where the OPCW gets it budget from.

The OPCW is a Western Corporate political front....Everyone gets this. The Swiss Lab identified the agent....BZ toxin...That's the evidence. Spin away

Spiez lab was one of the labs given samples by the OPCW and its data along with other labs, including ones handling the biological samples fed into the final report. According to Lavrov's leak Spiez lab identified the Novichock nerve agent A-234 in the samples it had. So your post was your usual pro Russian spin, a bunch of noise and nonsense.

Quote: According to Lavrov's leak Spiez lab identified the Novichock nerve agent A-234 in the samples it had.

No it didn't! You are just being ridiculous now. Spiez lab analysis made it abundantly clear in their report that the agent was from a western source and emphatically ruled out Russia as the source!

This report and the Spiez lab researchers involved are not going away. Why would they lie about their results when they have nothing to gain from the political fall-out of their research?

Maybe my fairy tale has a different ending than I dreamed it would. But that's OK.

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