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OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
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No one doubts the sophistication of the Russian propaganda machine and its mastery of the internet and social media so it comes as little surprise that the independent report into the poisoning of the Skripals in Salisbury last month has received the full Russian propaganda push including selective leaking and amplification through broadcast and online media.

With the publication of the OPCW report that confirms Britain's original analysis that the Skripals have been poisoned by a Novichock agent,

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/

the Russians were left with a problem and a potential propaganda solution. The Russian ambassador to London had already leaked that the British had identified the toxin as being A-234 ( N-2-diethylaminomethylacetamidido-ethoxyphosphonofluoridate ) an organophosphate nerve agent developed in the Soviet Union under the Foliant program, referred to as a Novichok agent

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43377698

and now the OPCW officially confirmed that fact in its thorough independent sampling of various sites around Salisbury and in biological samples of the victims.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

The detailed chemical analysis was made available to all signatories to the chemical weapons convention, but not the general public. Russia then used this information disparity to selectively leak fragments of the data to misdirect the blame away.

Sergay Lavrov, the Russian foreign secretary leaked data supplied by Spiez lab, a Swiss lab that identified the Novichock A-234 nerve agent as well as evidence of a short lived incapacitant BZ ( 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate ). By emphasising BZ and downplaying A-234 the message was an attempt to confuse the public as to the source and nature of the poisoning.

One strand of this misdirection was the suggestion that BZ was somehow a western chemical weapon but it was actually invented by the Swiss pharmaceutical company Hoffman-LaRoche in 1951 but was most famously used by the Russian security services during the Moscow theatre siege of 2003

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3340693/t/bz-i...tL849-YVOA

BZ only has a short period of action, 24 to 48 hours at most but Sergai has been in intensive care for a month and Yulia for over three week. The OPCW has biological samples that confirm the use A-234 but strangely Lavrov didn't want to leak that part of the evidence.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Strangely it was nearly impossible to post this thread with dozens of "internal server error 500" messages from typing entirely innocent words and phrases into my post. Interference from someone who doesn't like the message?
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Another propaganda strand is that a Novichock would spell instant death. This simply isn't true. With the nerve agent being applied to a door handle, potentially many hours before coming into contact with the intended victim, no adequate control over the dosage of the agent would be possible.

The inventor of A-124 himself had accidentally been exposed to it and suffered from debilitating effects but survived.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr...53976.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-234_(nerve_agent)
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UK and US Governments are TERRORISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why it is all a bunch of hogwash...

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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Get real fella.
The Russians would never attempt to poison a traitor hiding overseas with a nerve agent designed to cause a slow and agonising death, a very public demonstration that there is no hiding place nor mercy for traitors.
That's just not how Russia rolls.



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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:39 PM)
Why it is all a bunch of hogwash...

I believe so. I believe the Russians are being intentionally set up for a massive f*ck up...
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silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:39 PM)
Why it is all a bunch of hogwash...

Correct, Lavrov's spinning is hogwash the OPCW report is here for everyone to read.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

With the results confirming Novichock ( A-234 ) as the agent used, if we are to take the Russian Ambassador's leak as true.

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
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silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:39 PM)
Why it is all a bunch of hogwash...

Correct, Lavrov's spinning is hogwash the OPCW report is here for everyone to read.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M...g01_e_.pdf

With the results confirming Novichock ( A-234 ) as the agent used, if we are to take the Russian Ambassador's leak as true.

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-i...d-kingdom/

Who has the capability to make these things?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:37 PM)
UK and US Governments are TERRORISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Was this the things the fuc*er that got poisoned by and the same people that he gave information too ?
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Spiddy  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:42 PM)
Get real fella.
The Russians would never attempt poison a traitor hiding overseas with a nerve agent designed to cause a slow and agonising death sending very public demonstration that there is no hiding place nor mercy for traitors.
That's just not how Russia rolls.

True, and Litvinenko accidentally reached for $25 million worth of polonium to put in his tea instead of sugar.

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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
silversides  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:39 PM)
Why it is all a bunch of hogwash...

The truth demands actions. Actions get people killed.
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
Do you know the properties of gases? Take in hand a cylinder with gas... and now try to apply it on the door handle ... And in several days try to take samples of this gas ... Gas. .. this is not a gel ... you can't put it on a pen ... Like butter on a sandwich

Behave adequately... if you see the Russian...
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RE: OPCW Confirms Skripals poisoned by Novichock. Russian propaganda in overdrive
USSR  Wrote: (04-15-2018 01:47 PM)
Take in hand a cylinder with gas... and now try to apply it on the door handle ... And in several days try to take samples of this gas

It would be in the blood gas.
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