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How do you know what you know?
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Post: #91
RE: How do you know what you know?
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If you insist on knowing any truth, you must know all the truth, even which God dares to address you

It’s just some trick until you must burn it all

By fire and flame it was said about truth

Question God is the same as any other

I wasn’t even supposed to be delusional today but you need answers
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Post: #92
RE: How do you know what you know?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-25-2021 01:28 AM)
If you insist on knowing any truth, you must know all the truth, even which God dares to address you

It’s just some trick until you must burn it all

By fire and flame it was said about truth

Question God is the same as any other

I wasn’t even supposed to be delusional today but you need answers

My thing is are they really awnsers at all.

It looks a lot more like belief than truth.

And belief can be more dangerous than truth.
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Post: #93
RE: How do you know what you know?
A quote from the Rebel Bible, Book of Job

“Are you more dangerous than the cold?”

And other classics
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Post: #94
RE: How do you know what you know?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-25-2021 01:35 AM)
A quote from the Rebel Bible, Book of Job

“Are you more dangerous than the cold?”

And other classics

Maybe.

I question truth, so that makes me most dangerous as all.
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Post: #95
RE: How do you know what you know?
Truth, Bronx, details for a Questioner

All the best
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Post: #96
RE: How do you know what you know?
Orions Belt  Wrote: (05-24-2021 06:15 PM)
I mean, I know you think you know, and that has value, but how do you really know?

I know, different faith systems always think they have the awnsers, and claim to know truth, I get that, but the people who refuse belief systems have the same faith in what that think they know.

Just how do you believe you know anything?

That's faith in belief.

Your belief, your truth.

Problem with that is you have to convince others to maintain it.

So tell me how you know what you know.

I have predictive dreams OP and I am neither for a religion.

I dreamed the pandemic before it happened.
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Post: #97
RE: How do you know what you know?
interesting thread.

to quote OP "I mean, I know you think you know, and that has value, but how do you really know?"

its a deep philosophical question...

how do you know you know, and if you realize that there is a lot you do not know, that is the beginning of knowing that you now know that you don't know. Stars
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Post: #98
RE: How do you know what you know?
flatland  Wrote: (05-25-2021 01:01 AM)
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (05-24-2021 08:10 PM)
There are objective truths we all seem to agree on. The empirical method was invented for this purpose. Given a set of circumstances and tools to measure variables we all consistently come up with similar results with some statistical range of acceptability.

Then there are subjective truths, my guess is that is what you are aiming for in this thread. For us to explain and justify our subjective truths. But if it was explainable, demonstrable it would no longer fit in the realm of subjectivity but instead objectivity.

IMO we have to agree that we all have our own version of subjective truths and perhaps that is what you have issue with, calling anything subjective as truth. I can agree to that statement, maybe call them subjectivisms leaving the term truth out because truth is objective requiring two or more witnesses.

My subjectivisms are my own, influenced by others over time and the Word which I read daily. I call them truths because I am assured of their reality through faith.

Really they are subjective beliefs.

I'm gathering this thread is in regards to whether any religious beliefs are in fact true. And of course they are not.

What is truth? I posited that truth, objective truth, is defined by a shared experience or variables of an experience that can be quantified, measured and such measurement can be reproduced within an accepted statistical range.

If 2 people share a common spiritual experience, but they cannot quantify it, then according to objectivism it's not a truth. But it's true to the 2 that experienced the event.

Personally I believe that truth comes from God, it is part of His attributes. I realize I'm probably the only one in this thread that thinks so, and yet ya'll haven't changed my mind because I am the only one. If I die that way, that is fine. My beliefs are my own, I cherish them and occasionally I experience supernatural events that reinforce my beliefs.

Evil is the root of all fiat 'money'
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RE: How do you know what you know?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-25-2021 02:03 AM)
Orions Belt  Wrote: (05-24-2021 06:15 PM)
I mean, I know you think you know, and that has value, but how do you really know?

I know, different faith systems always think they have the awnsers, and claim to know truth, I get that, but the people who refuse belief systems have the same faith in what that think they know.

Just how do you believe you know anything?

That's faith in belief.

Your belief, your truth.

Problem with that is you have to convince others to maintain it.

So tell me how you know what you know.

I have predictive dreams OP and I am neither for a religion.

I dreamed the pandemic before it happened.


A few summers ago I had a dream where their were social distancing

lines stuck to floors in places i visited.

No one would believe me, nor do I care if they did. I wouldn't believe them

So yes, I do believe their is stuff after a life form "dies"
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Post: #100
RE: How do you know what you know?
I know nothing
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Post: #101
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-25-2021 02:58 AM)
I know nothing

Impossible there is no nothing. Nothing is something.

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Post: #102
RE: How do you know what you know?
I don't

Quote:Les pauvres n'ont-ils des Euros ?
Alors laissez les pauvres 'sh*t' dans les rues
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-25-2021 02:58 AM)
I know nothing

uhm

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Post: #104
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Uppity Me  Wrote: (05-25-2021 03:00 AM)
I don't

Then you know that you don't?

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Post: #105
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-25-2021 02:58 AM)
I know nothing

Finally, someone smart enough to understand our near complete lack of understanding.
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