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I caught covid, here is what happened
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RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
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He Man  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:24 PM)
Sorry you got so sick Woo. Glad you are feeling better now.

Here a good article about why you should still get the vaccination, after you think you already had covid-19. I posted this as a thread a few days ago. Hugs Cheer

I hope some other folks here (Ghostis for one) that seem to be on the fence about the vaccination will read your story and decide to not risk getting so sick when a vaccine is free and very effective.

So many folks say they will not get the vaccinations because they have had covid or think they have had covid, but that is not a good reason to not get the vaccine.

No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer
Infection does offer some immune protection—but it's unreliable compared with vaccines.

"As long as there have been vaccines against COVID-19, there have been arguments for why people shouldn't get those vaccines. One of the more persistent—and hairier—arguments is that people who have already been infected with the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, don't need a vaccine. An infection will generate immune responses similar to those generated by vaccines, the thinking goes. So, why waste coveted vaccine doses on people who already have immune responses against the virus—which may also needlessly put those people at risk of vaccine side effects, however rare?

It's a reasonable question, and there is legitimate scientific debate about it. There are also different approaches to the issue in terms of public health policy. In Israel, for example, people who have recovered from COVID-19 after testing positive on a PCR test can get a vaccination "Green Pass" that's valid for up to six months. The pass allows them entry into various places just as it does for people who are fully vaccinated. In the European Union, some member states offer a similar "Digital COVID Certificate" to people who have recovered from COVID-19 and received just one dose of a two-dose mRNA vaccine regimen.

In the US, however, public health officials are unequivocal in their approach: people are categorized as either vaccinated or unvaccinated, regardless of prior infection. It's an approach with many strengths, including robust scientific data supporting vaccination for people who have recovered. That data—which we'll get into below—has consistently shown that immune responses from natural infections are extremely variable, thus unreliable. Vaccines, on the other hand, have repeatedly been proven to generate highly protective immune responses.

The vaccines are also remarkably safe, with few serious side effects that occur extremely rarely. One of the most concerning side effects is myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle). But even there, the rate of myocarditis in the most at-risk group (males ages 12 to 29) is only estimated to be 41 in a million, and the cases are generally mild.

Comparing that with actual COVID-19 infections—which can cause severe disease even in young, healthy people and may cause persistent, months-long symptoms in up to half of people infected—there's no contest. Vaccines are safer. And they're just as safe for people who have previously recovered. People with past COVID-19 cases are no more likely to have serious side effects from vaccines than people who haven't been previously infected, though they may have more side effects.

The US approach also has logistical benefits. Simple categories of "vaccinated" and "unvaccinated" skip over the messy and difficult step of figuring out who has been infected and when. From the early stages of the pandemic, the US has struggled—and is still struggling—to roll out accurate, widely available tests for SARS-CoV-2. Many people who have been infected never officially tested positive. Others assumed they were infected when they may have actually had one of many other respiratory infections. And antibody tests that look for evidence of past infections are notoriously inaccurate.

Though opponents argue that mass vaccination is driven by "evil corporations" out for prodigious profits at all costs, the fact is that vaccines are extremely safe and offer recovered people strong, lasting protection against a virus that has already killed more than 700,000 Americans.

Efficacy and variability
That's not to say that there aren't weaknesses to the US's approach. For one thing, the approach can make vaccines look bad. In many instances, vaccine effectiveness is gauged by comparing COVID-19 case rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. But in the US, the unvaccinated include people who have no immunity and recovered people, who have some immunity and are, thus, expected to have fewer infections. This waters down case rates in the unvaccinated group and ends up lowering the vaccine efficacy estimates.

Still, the vaccines' efficacy estimates are extraordinarily good. A recent study found that the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine was holding steady with 90 percent efficacy against COVID-19 hospitalization for at least six months. A separate study found that the Moderna mRNA vaccine was 93 percent effective against hospitalizations among people without immunocompromising conditions. Johnson & Johnson's vaccine was 71 percent effective.

And again, many vaccine efficacy numbers don't account for past infection and may be artificially lower because of that. How much lower? It's unclear. Since the beginning of the pandemic, researchers have noted time and again that immune responses generated by SARS-CoV-2 infections vary wildly, with some of the weaker responses seen in people with mild disease and stronger responses in people with severe disease.

In one study Ars reported on back in June of last year, researchers looking at SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in people who had recovered found that the difference between the highest and lowest levels varied by a factor of over 1,000. The researchers saw even more variability when they looked at neutralizing antibodies—those known to bind to the virus and prevent it from infecting cells. Neutralizing antibody levels in recovered people varied over a range of 40,000-fold, and up to 20 percent of people didn't have any detectable level of neutralizing antibody."

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/10/...d-19-shot/

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BlackCat
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10-10-2021 05:51 PM

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Best wishes Woo, I hope you return to full health soon. Jhikpghf

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who haven't got it.
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Booster Pfizer vaccine..10/15/21
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Post: #34
RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
BlackCat  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:43 PM)


https://twitter.com/i/status/1446845357833531394

Wow BlackCat,.... that is some powerful stuff that nurse is putting out, folks should get vaccinated.

I am borrowing that for my long thread:


It Begins: US Covid-19 hospitalizations almost all unvaccinated people now

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-250991.html

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RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
He Man  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:51 PM)
BlackCat  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:43 PM)


https://twitter.com/i/status/1446845357833531394

Wow BlackCat,.... that is some powerful stuff that nurse is putting out, folks should get vaccinated.

I am borrowing that for my long thread:


It Begins: US Covid-19 hospitalizations almost all unvaccinated people now

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-250991.html

Jhikpghf

We have two political parties in America: we have the Democratic Party and the anti-democratic party. ~ Stephen Colbert
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Post: #36
RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
He Man  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:19 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-10-2021 11:30 AM)
Man you are such a bit*h. I had the c1 which is wrose than delta and before the news broke out about it. I couldn't get out of bed for a few days. I was so bad strangers asked me if i was ok because i literally looked like i was going to die. Thinking it was just a really bad flu i just drank beer and smoked weed to kill the sickness.

It was bad. And as i was getting over it my mom caught it so while i was sick i had to nurse her back to health.

At a few points i was so ill it sucked nearly all my energy and life source but i was still not a whiney bit*h about it.

Wow what a stupid reply, Woo is saying his experience just like you are. Nobody is bitching about it, stop being so idiotic and disrespectful. And no the covid alpha is not worse than covid delta, from every think the researchers are saying it is worse and produces more serious illness and more deaths.

That young man is so enveloped by affectatious influence, he's imprisoned his authentic self over falsehood.

It's not a surprise he caught covid, nor his mother. What he displayed there is the kind of psychology that's so prevalent within the Trumpian base. Locked into an assigned role out of a need to fill the void and completely intransigent.

In their formative years, the last few generations built their shared psychological cultural framework from the ideology of South Park, blood and gor, impulsivity and cold-blooded first-person shooters.






An outlook built to perpetuate chaos and problematic issues for others during times of trouble and with little to no trace of conscientious responsibility for having done so.

These are the people that need to be saved from themselves and what is influencing them before they destroy everyone.

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Rhys
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10-10-2021 06:32 PM

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I don't want to have to say those things from a slanted perspective, it's out of a spiritual calling that my little slice of free speech is injected into the zeitgiest.

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10-10-2021 06:40 PM

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Post: #38
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ppl so fckn worried that u dont have a vaccine.
erryone telling u to get the jab! save lifes!!!

meanwhile kids dying of starvation, and retarts dying of obesity.

why dont u care bout those ppl?
let me guess, ud care if they got jabbidy jabbed right?
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Rhys
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10-10-2021 06:42 PM

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Post: #39
RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
Woo, over the years I came to know who you were as a person. Your vibes are relatable and I've thought well of you for years now. Glad you made it through. Keep investing in your health and well-being.

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10-10-2021 06:48 PM

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Post: #40
RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
Rhys  Wrote: (10-10-2021 06:19 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:19 PM)
Wow what a stupid reply, Woo is saying his experience just like you are. Nobody is bitching about it, stop being so idiotic and disrespectful. And no the covid alpha is not worse than covid delta, from every think the researchers are saying it is worse and produces more serious illness and more deaths.

That young man is so enveloped by affectatious influence, he's imprisoned his authentic self over falsehood.

It's not a surprise he caught covid, nor his mother. What he displayed there is the kind of psychology that's so prevalent within the Trumpian base. Locked into an assigned role out of a need to fill the void and completely intransigent.

In their formative years, the last few generations built their shared psychological cultural framework from the ideology of South Park, blood and gor, impulsivity and cold-blooded first-person shooters.






An outlook built to perpetuate chaos and problematic issues for others during times of trouble and with little to no trace of conscientious responsibility for having done so.

These are the people that need to be saved from themselves and what is influencing them before they destroy everyone.

Good post.
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10-10-2021 07:22 PM

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Post: #41
RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
He Man  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:19 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-10-2021 11:30 AM)
Man you are such a bit*h. I had the c1 which is wrose than delta and before the news broke out about it. I couldn't get out of bed for a few days. I was so bad strangers asked me if i was ok because i literally looked like i was going to die. Thinking it was just a really bad flu i just drank beer and smoked weed to kill the sickness.

It was bad. And as i was getting over it my mom caught it so while i was sick i had to nurse her back to health.

At a few points i was so ill it sucked nearly all my energy and life source but i was still not a whiney bit*h about it.

Wow what a stupid reply, Woo is saying his experience just like you are. Nobody is bitching about it, stop being so idiotic and disrespectful. And no the covid alpha is not worse than covid delta, from everything the researchers are saying, it is worse and produces more serious illness and more deaths.


Incorrect.


Follow the science: ‘Deadly’ Delta variant registers a 99.9+% recovery rate
We should celebrate, not fear, Delta dominance.

Jordan Schachtel, Jun 28, 2021

You wouldn’t know it by following the corporate press and the usual suspects who traffic in endless amounts of COVID Mania fear mongering, but the actual data on the much hyped Delta variant (sometimes referred to as the Indian variant) that you keep hearing about doesn’t fit the “deadly” virus narrative that is being advertised to the public.

Don’t take it from me. Here’s the data straight from the U.K. government, which is tracking this mutation as sporting a case fatality rate of 0.1%.

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Now, a case fatality rate (CFR) is many times higher than the actual death rate (infection fatality rate, or IFR), because the vast majority of COVID-19 cases go undetected. Through my previous reporting, I’ve found that the World Health Organization runs its numbers based on the estimate that 1 in 20 cases are detected, while the CDC bases its estimates on a 1 in 10 ratio.

In plain english, this means that based on CDC and WHO guidelines, the Delta variant’s death rate is actually significantly lower than the 0.1% number that appears in the U.K. government docs... https://dossier.substack.com/p/follow-th...ta-variant
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk...ing_16.pdf
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Bicnarok
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10-10-2021 07:24 PM

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Glad you survived it Woo, best wished on your recovery.

Thanks for the insight too, first hand info from people directly is valuable in the forest of propaganda.

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RE: I caught covid, here is what happened
He Man  Wrote: (10-10-2021 05:24 PM)
Sorry you got so sick Woo. Glad you are feeling better now.

Here a good article about why you should still get the vaccination, after you think you already had covid-19. I posted this as a thread a few days ago. Hugs Cheer

I hope some other folks here (Ghostis for one) that seem to be on the fence about the vaccination will read your story and decide to not risk getting so sick when a vaccine is free and very effective.

So many folks say they will not get the vaccinations because they have had covid or think they have had covid, but that is not a good reason to not get the vaccine.

No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer
Infection does offer some immune protection—but it's unreliable compared with vaccines.

[...]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/10/...d-19-shot/


They've done a pretty good job for the thousands of years prior to vaccination.



Antibodies Persist for More Than a Year After COVID-19 Infection, Study Finds
By Ivan Pentchoukov, October 3, 2021

The immune systems of the vast majority of people who have been infected with the CCP virus will continue to carry antibodies against the virus for at least 12 months, according to a peer-reviewed study accepted by the European Journal of Immunology on Sept. 24... https://www.theepochtimes.com/antibodies...29278.html



The COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate: Letter to President of the University of Guelph: Prof. of Virus Immunology

Dr. Byram W. Bridle, PhD Associate Professor of Viral Immunology: "Those with Naturally Acquired Immunity Don’t Need to be Vaccinated and are at Greater Risk of Harm if Vaccinated"
By Dr. Byram W. Bridle, September 22, 2021

[...]

Dear Dr. Charlotte A.B. Yates, President and Vice-Chancellor,

I will forewarn you that this is a lengthy letter. However, it only represents a fraction of the information that I would like to be able to share with you. I have found it necessary to write this so you can fully understand my perspective. With my life and that of my family, many friends and treasured colleagues being destroyed under your watch, I figure the least you can do is read and consider this very carefully. It is incredible to note that many, if not most, of my on-campus detractors have judged me without reading any of my scientific arguments or talking to me about them.

The COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate at the University of Guelph

You issued a mandate that everyone within the University of Guelph community must receive a COVID-19 vaccine. I have spent most of my lifetime learning to be a very deep and critical thinker and to follow the weight of scientific evidence. I am a well-recognized expert in vaccinology. As per my extensive funding, research, publication, and teaching records, I am a vaccine lover and an innovator in this field. I promote highly effective vaccines that have undergone extensive, rigorous, and proper safety testing as the most efficient type of medicines that exist. Vaccines that meet these criteria have prevented a vast amount of mortality and morbidities around the world. However, I could not be in stronger disagreement with you forcing the current COVID-19 vaccines upon everyone who is part of our campus community. I respect the challenges that a university president faces when trying to manage a large and dynamic academic institution. However, your roots are as a scholar. As a publicly funded institution of advanced learning, it is incumbent on us to demonstrate an ability to view the world around us in a constructively critical fashion such that we can improve the lives of others. We should be able to do this free of political or financial pressures and without bias or prejudice or fear of censorship and harassment. As a viral immunologist that has been working on the front lines of the scientific and medical community throughout the duration of the declared COVID-19 pandemic, I feel compelled to speak on behalf of the many who will not, due to extreme fear of retribution. We now live in a time when it is common practice for people to demand and expect to receive confidential medical information from others. I will not be coerced into disclosing my private medical information. However, for the sake of highlighting some of the absurdities of COVID-19 vaccine mandates I choose, of my own free will, to freely disclose some of my medical information here… https://www.globalresearch.ca/open-lette...ph/5756362
https://www.guelphtoday.com/local-news/c...te-4456348
https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/wp-content/...Bridle.pdf
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Recent studies out of Israel show that natural immunity is 17 times more effective at protecting you from covid(s) than the 'vaccine'.

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are the headaches dull light adversion headaches behind the eyes or are they splitting pulsing headaches that go to the ears?
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