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Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
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Post: #31
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
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grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:29 PM)
Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:14 PM)
Serious question, I dont keep up with this convo.

If the earth is flat, wouldnt the seasons be constant based on where you are?

Explain the change of seasons.

Mainstream science says the 66.6° (or 23.4°) tilt causes seasons. That means that one location will see a few hundred miles of change with a corresponding difference of more or less light.

We are enjoying warm long days now, since earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than we are in July. Right?
link to image: http://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/sun-distances.png?1

Does that make sense?

Yes.

Google "goldilocks zone".
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Post: #32
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 07:51 PM)
Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:51 PM)
Ive always thought that it is not the distance, but the tilt of the northern hemisphere in the summer toward the sun that caused it to be hotter. We are farther away but tilted toward the sun. Australia is tilted toward the sun in January, so they have super hot summer because they are closer and tilted toward the sun at the same time.

Where I live, it is currently -9 F this morning, but we hit the 90's on the summer. If Im sitting on a disc that doesnt move, why do I get such temperature fluctuations?

Im not asking to disprove your theory, I just want to understand how this can be explained in a FE model.

Please don't think we have answers. We have theories, just like "real" science does.
Here is one, more concave than flat earth, but I like how the graphics are drawn.
link to image: https://www.speakertv.com/wp-content/upl...earth3.jpg

The light source we call the sun is around 3000 miles above the surface. It circles above us between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn through the year. It also ascends and descends in altitude in a spiral. Though it rises in the east, that direction does not apply to the way we are taught with latitude and longitude lines. The only thing I can compare it to is a rainbow, which changes its position according to the perspective of the observer.

Now a bigger question is this: what the heck is the sun? A giant burning ball of gas? A nuclear furnace? It's mostly helium and hydrogen, in theory. So how do lighter than air gases become so heavy that planets whirl around them?

Because what flat earth describes has no relation to actual observation you try to dismiss the glaring failure of the model by claiming the sun is a subjective experience and can be where ever it needs to be.
Of cirse rainbows are well understood and are caused by water and the sun.

There is no other lght source to be the cauee of the hallucinatory sun flatties are trying to create to cover there total failure of a model.
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Post: #33
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:14 PM)
Serious question, I dont keep up with this convo.

If the earth is flat, wouldnt the seasons be constant based on where you are?

Explain the change of seasons.

Sun is closer and smaller, makes a longer trek around the disc.

When the sun is overhead, you can feel the heat, even in winter, so long as there are no clouds.

When the sun is near the horizon, however, you can't feel the warmth, despite the fact that you are still the same distance from the sun. This doesn't make sense.

It makes more sense that the sun is closer, smaller, locally heating and illuminating, and goes further away from us, in the northern hemisphere, during winter.
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Post: #34
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth COINTELPRO Thread
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-02-2018 08:56 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-02-2018 08:48 PM)
Therefore my flashlight should illuminate the entire side of my house? But it doesn't. Must be more to it Louie.

Refute it or shutup flattard

facepalm

I suppose NASA manufactured all the telescopes to show sphere planets?

chucklechuckle
.

If it seeketh, expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Anyone that believes Earth has the only intelligent life in the whole of the cosmos, is a f*cking moron, and shouldn't be allowed an opinion about anything else!!

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Post: #35
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
Schrödingers Cat  Wrote: (01-02-2018 08:17 PM)
Why don't we ever see buildings in Australia photographed from space upside-down Anon

Why do Maps always orientate themselves with 'N' being UP?

Why do Globes ALWAYS orientate themselves with 'N' being UP?
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Post: #36
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
HardTruth  Wrote: (01-02-2018 08:50 PM)
facepalm

Aah, good response. If you have nothing to say, then just say nothing. I listed 10 points for debaters to argue for or against.

These childish retorts speak against your case, which is . . . ? That earth IS a spinning ball in space vacuum? And that we live in a solar system that gyrates through the universe at half a million mph? Because that IS the official platform of the Body Scientific. You knew that already, I am sure.

[Image: Planets-Orbiting-Around-Sun.gif]

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Post: #37
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:15 PM)
HardTruth  Wrote: (01-02-2018 08:50 PM)
facepalm

Aah, good response. If you have nothing to say, then just say nothing. I listed 10 points for debaters to argue for or against.

These childish retorts speak against your case, which is . . . ? That earth IS a spinning ball in space vacuum? And that we live in a solar system that gyrates through the universe at half a million mph? Because that IS the official platform of the Body Scientific. You knew that already, I am sure.

link to image: http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2...nd-Sun.gif

I'm dizzy already.
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Post: #38
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:11 PM)
grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 07:51 PM)
Please don't think we have answers. We have theories, just like "real" science does.
Here is one, more concave than flat earth, but I like how the graphics are drawn.
link to image: https://www.speakertv.com/wp-content/upl...earth3.jpg

The light source we call the sun is around 3000 miles above the surface. It circles above us between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn through the year. It also ascends and descends in altitude in a spiral. Though it rises in the east, that direction does not apply to the way we are taught with latitude and longitude lines. The only thing I can compare it to is a rainbow, which changes its position according to the perspective of the observer.

Now a bigger question is this: what the heck is the sun? A giant burning ball of gas? A nuclear furnace? It's mostly helium and hydrogen, in theory. So how do lighter than air gases become so heavy that planets whirl around them?

Because what flat earth describes has no relation to actual observation you try to dismiss the glaring failure of the model by claiming the sun is a subjective experience and can be where ever it needs to be.
Of cirse rainbows are well understood and are caused by water and the sun.

There is no other lght source to be the cauee of the hallucinatory sun flatties are trying to create to cover there total failure of a model.
Ok lol...

I observe a sun closer than 93million miles everyday.
So do you.
We also observe many other things, but lets go step by step... baby steps...
What gives?

https://youtu.be/xntjlsN4QqM
https://youtu.be/OtMfoB-lZWI
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Post: #39
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:07 PM)
Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:51 PM)
Ive always thought that it is not the distance, but the tilt of the northern hemisphere in the summer toward the sun that caused it to be hotter. We are farther away but tilted toward the sun. Australia is tilted toward the sun in January, so they have super hot summer because they are closer and tilted toward the sun at the same time.

Where I live, it is currently -9 F this morning, but we hit the 90's on the summer. If Im sitting on a disc that doesnt move, why do I get such temperature fluctuations?

Im not asking to disprove your theory, I just want to understand how this can be explained in a FE model.

To me, it makes more sense that because the sun is much closer and smaller, it's making a much longer trek around the disc, which causes overall temps to drop.

It also explains shorter nights in winter. To me, it doesn't make sense when I live in southwestern us, that I get dramatically longer periods of time seeing sunlight. I can see sunlight for up to 18 hours or more, during the summer, this would not happen on a globe earth. It should be around 12 hours of night and day , throughout the year. But we are told things like light is refracting off of ice crystals, but it makes more sense that the sun is much closer and smaller.

Things like this make me believe the earth is flat and motionless.

Thats because you choose to believe a simple childish failure over an accurate but more complex model.

If the sun made bigger / smaller circles in the same 24 hr day it would have to travel at different speeds. Yet it doesn't.

Once again flatties ignore the first rule of gaining knowledge, observation.

None of there theories or models are based upon the actual motion of the sun.
Just childish nonsense made up to try and trick the ignorant.
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Post: #40
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:15 PM)
HardTruth  Wrote: (01-02-2018 08:50 PM)
facepalm

Aah, good response. If you have nothing to say, then just say nothing. I listed 10 points for debaters to argue for or against.

These childish retorts speak against your case, which is . . . ? That earth IS a spinning ball in space vacuum? And that we live in a solar system that gyrates through the universe at half a million mph? Because that IS the official platform of the Body Scientific. You knew that already, I am sure.

[Image: Planets-Orbiting-Around-Sun.gif]

facepalm

I suppose NASA manufactured all the telescopes to show sphere planets?

chucklechuckle
.

If it seeketh, expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Anyone that believes Earth has the only intelligent life in the whole of the cosmos, is a f*cking moron, and shouldn't be allowed an opinion about anything else!!

Fools multiply when wise men are silent - Nelson Mandela

Candle Galaxy
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Post: #41
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
grav  Wrote: (10-14-2017 12:29 AM)
Flat Earth SHOULD prove their cockamamie theories by conducting experiments which deliver empirical evidence to support aforementioned cockamamie theories.
chuckle
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Post: #42
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
Lurkingconspiracyninja  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:16 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:11 PM)
Because what flat earth describes has no relation to actual observation you try to dismiss the glaring failure of the model by claiming the sun is a subjective experience and can be where ever it needs to be.
Of cirse rainbows are well understood and are caused by water and the sun.

There is no other lght source to be the cauee of the hallucinatory sun flatties are trying to create to cover there total failure of a model.
Ok lol...

I observe a sun closer than 93million miles everyday.
So do you.
We also observe many other things, but lets go step by step... baby steps...
What gives?

How did you determine that?

The 3000 mile high sun can never set.
Of course grav and the other FE shills dont care they are selling a failure.
They know quite well its all bullshit.
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Post: #43
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth COINTELPRO Thread
grav  Wrote: (10-14-2017 12:29 AM)
Science SHOULD prove their cockamamie theories by conducting experiments which deliver empirical evidence to support aforementioned cockamamie theories.
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Post: #44
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
HardTruth  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:18 PM)
grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:15 PM)
Aah, good response. If you have nothing to say, then just say nothing. I listed 10 points for debaters to argue for or against.

These childish retorts speak against your case, which is . . . ? That earth IS a spinning ball in space vacuum? And that we live in a solar system that gyrates through the universe at half a million mph? Because that IS the official platform of the Body Scientific. You knew that already, I am sure.

[Image: Planets-Orbiting-Around-Sun.gif]

facepalm

I suppose NASA manufactured all the telescopes to show sphere planets?

chucklechuckle
.
Soo because "other planets" are "round/spheres" every other planet has to be the same?

How come we have white people and black people? Should only be black or white ppl with ur logic mate...

Drop the act lol

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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-02-2018 09:08 PM)
grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:29 PM)
Mainstream science says the 66.6° (or 23.4°) tilt causes seasons. That means that one location will see a few hundred miles of change with a corresponding difference of more or less light.

We are enjoying warm long days now, since earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than we are in July. Right?
link to image: http://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/sun-distances.png?1

Does that make sense?

Yes.

Google "goldilocks zone".

Thanks! I had forgotten about the fairy tale that is modern astronomy.

[Image: th?id=OIP.GLpBiD3e5BMu_AGHsL6n1gHaEz&...mp;pid=1.7]

Ay, caramba.
We are closer to the sun now than we are in July. By 3 MILLION miles. And days are shorter because the ball turns on a spin. So how do we not have 12 hours of daylight and night all the time? Can we see one (1) real picture of this happening from one of thousands of satellites up there?

"A little learning is a dang'rous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring"
~ Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism (1711)

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