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Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
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Gravity and Scripture

Two Bible references are helpful in considering the nature of gravity and physical science in general. First, Colossians 1:17 explains that Christ is before all things, and by Him all things consist. The Greek verb for consist (sunistao) means to cohere, preserve, or hold together. Extrabiblical Greek use of this word pictures a container holding water within itself. The word is used in Colossians in the perfect tense, which normally implies a present continuing state arising from a completed past action. One physical mechanism used is obviously gravity, established by the Creator and still maintained without flaw today. Consider the alternative; if gravity ceased for one moment, instant chaos surely would result. All heavenly objects, including the earth, moon and stars, would no longer hold together. Everything would immediately disintegrate into small fragments.

A second reference, Hebrews 1:3, declares that Christ upholds all things by the word of His power. Uphold (phero) again describes the sustaining or maintaining of all things, including gravity. The word uphold in this verse means much more than simply supporting a weight. It includes control of all the ongoing motions and changes within the universe. This infinite task is managed by the Lord’s almighty Word, whereby the universe itself was first called into being. Gravity, the ‘mystery force’, which is poorly understood after nearly four centuries of research, is one of the manifestations of this awesome divine upholding.

So you want to use someone's interpretation of a Bible quote in order to defend your Religion of Scientism?

Since you seek Truth in the Bible, how about searching for the part that talks about the firmament (a solid vault or fixed structure) dividing the waters above from the waters below?

Why be so selective? Why use the Bible as "evidence" when you want to defend your Magic Ball "Truth" with "Science"?

I'm waiting for a Bible quote that says: "There is no up or down" -- unless, of course you recant that kooky statement.

Up or down is subjective, depending on your frame of reference (or paradigm).

You either see it or you don't.

Chill, dude.

You may be surprised to learn that Scripture can have layers of meaning and it is often coded.

Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The "waters" which thou sawest, where the "princess" sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues (languages).
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(lop "princess" = bible "w h o r e")
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Post: #9933
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 02:43 PM)
Rockets do work in an atmosphere , that's according to the laws of physics .

Rockets cannot work in a vacuum , also according to the laws of physics .

In order to comply with Newton's third law , action and reaction , there has to be an
active force applied to cause a reaction . This can not happen in a vacuum . The laws of physics applied to rocketry tells you that. As air pressure outside the nozzle tends to zero then thrust also tends to zero . At zero is no action/reaction .

Nasa doesn't own the laws but it twists them to confuse and discourage those who dare to question .

Rest of your post is waffle .

When you throw a baseball, the ball pushes into your hand as you bring it into movement.

Not because of "air pressure" but because of its mass and therefore, its inertia.

It's quite simple really.

Ahhh - a rocket is a baseball , right . Hooray for scientism
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Post: #9934
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 03:04 PM)
grav  Wrote: (07-12-2018 11:42 AM)
As usual, shills have spammed the thread to hide evidence under their piles of verbiage. They did not even try to dispute any proofs in Rothbard's video collection of experiments that clearly showed targets sighted way beyond the alleged curve.

Truth seekers will have to backtrack constantly to see what guest shills are intentionally hiding. Freemasonic lackeys, the whole lot.

I'm not finished watching this next video, which has no text summary. I don't post videos willy-nilly, choosing only those which present new information or analyses. This one explains the dome, comets, radio signal bounce (which Nasa uses disguised as satellites), and the reason Antarctica is so fiercely guarded.



Speaking to the degree and sheer numbers of Flat Earth Truth shills, we could absolutely say this topic on this thread is an immense problem to "them" (those who so desperately seek to keep the public locked in a False Matrix, illusion of lies).

It is the potential of this thread that has them frightened and calling for massive, prolonged (but eventually ineffective) attacks.

So... Cheers A. Grav! Keep up the good work!

Nice post . Must have a look at Grav's/Rothbards video
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 03:53 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 03:08 PM)
When you throw a baseball, the ball pushes into your hand as you bring it into movement.

Not because of "air pressure" but because of its mass and therefore, its inertia.

It's quite simple really.

Ahhh - a rocket is a baseball , right . Hooray for scientism

You got it.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 03:22 PM)
Gravity and Scripture

Two Bible references are helpful in considering the nature of gravity and physical science in general. First, Colossians 1:17 explains that Christ is before all things, and by Him all things consist. The Greek verb for consist (sunistao) means to cohere, preserve, or hold together. Extrabiblical Greek use of this word pictures a container holding water within itself. The word is used in Colossians in the perfect tense, which normally implies a present continuing state arising from a completed past action. One physical mechanism used is obviously gravity, established by the Creator and still maintained without flaw today. Consider the alternative; if gravity ceased for one moment, instant chaos surely would result. All heavenly objects, including the earth, moon and stars, would no longer hold together. Everything would immediately disintegrate into small fragments.

A second reference, Hebrews 1:3, declares that Christ upholds all things by the word of His power. Uphold (phero) again describes the sustaining or maintaining of all things, including gravity. The word uphold in this verse means much more than simply supporting a weight. It includes control of all the ongoing motions and changes within the universe. This infinite task is managed by the Lord’s almighty Word, whereby the universe itself was first called into being. Gravity, the ‘mystery force’, which is poorly understood after nearly four centuries of research, is one of the manifestations of this awesome divine upholding.

Your Lord is Satan.
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Post: #9937
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Uh oh, VM is working themselves into a religious frenzy again.

Isnt it about time you spammed your 900 cointel images again?
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Post: #9938
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https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCMyU75x4S...Ukw/videos

<-- links to Rothbard's videos for Taboo Conspiracy. It's a good name for a site which is unafraid to go where ct wannabes won't. I make no videos or memes myself. It's hard enough as is to present the great work real researchers are doing. The Taboo name is easy to remember and offers more videos and other information. Please check it out.

I will remind honest readers that Rothbard's latest video collects dozens of experiments which prove mathematically that the globe is a lie. His first video, for example, was conducted over a lake 6 miles wide. Let's do the math (in my signature). 6×6= 36 × 8 = 288 inches ÷ 12 = 24 feet. Let's confirm that calculation with AutoCad.

[Image: ba7cf17e305c1547b928e3a4f3e2c496.jpg]

Yes. Over water we should see a drop of 24 feet for a paltry 6 miles. Rothbard accounted for observer height in all experiments. Anyone want to debunk this procedure or math? Hah! We know what to expect. Snorts of ridicule and attacks on our integrity and intelligence. The real shills are guests now. Occasionally a registered member will troll out of ignorant arrogance. We should pity these brainwashed children. But shills, no. It staggers the imagination to see how Nasa tools relentlessly try to obscure the simple truths of pure math concerning the spinning globe.
They knowingly collide with the masters of deception.
Hell if I know why they do it. Money? Fear? 1dunno1

Back to brass tacks now --
We can prove the vast irregular PLANE with relative ease. But no one can confirm the dome. A UN (and US) military presence strictly forbids independent explorations of the icy circle of Antarctica.

This is the true map of our plane, which is not a planet. I have a full sized poster of it on my wall. Antarctica is the white areas beyond 60° "South" latitude.
[Image: flat-earth-map-1892.jpg]

I also have a globe model, which is a toy, not much different from a Tinker Bell doll.

[Image: 3f8cfdb61b5729b02f5fc7bc77734dd0.jpg]

• 37 Experiments Proving FE: https://youtu.be/OoxhDtnRmBk
• 200 Proofs Earth Is Not a Spinning Ball, http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/...-ball.html
• GE do-it-yourself math --> 8xd^; FE = |___180°___|
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I had to undergo a couple of major surgeries, and just logged back in today for the first time in a long while and I can't find any of my posts. My account says I have 0 posts and 0 threads, need a million posts to rate a thread... not sure what's going on but I put alot of effort in some of the material I posted here, particularly on this thread. What's up with that?
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whatever their "purpose" those posting the most do not have anyy concern about anyone at all.
they lie and deceive having no care for truth themselves.
PLEASE ignore the ignorant, those who do not share anything true.
PLEASE PLEASE ignore those who treat the truth with carelessness and twist till theirs is a worse deceit than the first.
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grab a old kjv Bible, the one with thee/thy/thine. ask "Amazing and Wonderful Author of this writing, please help me understand."
start asking, as a child would, "GOD, our Creator, please help me understand what i should ask"
"what is this?"
"how does that work?"
"which way should i go?"
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no Bible is a great benefit alone, Truth IS The Author... HE gives understanding and wisdom as we seek to know HIM, and of HIS works and those things that please HIM. YHWH reigns! in Christ HIS Son and in us... only in Christ.
seeking truth from men apart from Christ is like looking for food in the rubbish - you may find a little food, which is probably corrupt, and the rest is just trash.
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Job 38:1-14 KJVR Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
(2) Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
(3) Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
(4) Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. <(founded on pillars)>
(5) Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? <(a measuring line, like a tape-measure)>
(6) Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
(7) When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(8) Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? <(this sea = waters above the firmament)>
(9) When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, <(clouds cover the sky/firmament)>
(10) And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, <(seems to be describing the firmament as it is fixed into the land surrounding the world, wording could be better)>
(11) And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed? <(HE set a boundary for the ocean,like a bowl, antarctic wall)>
(12) Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
(13) That it might <( "can you" seems better )> take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
(14) It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. <(would be a blessing to understand the original language, it is the world as a clay seal like this - http://i67.tinypic.com/21exmax.jpg - and the sky, clouds, and dawn are like clothes over the world.)>
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my Father reveals HIMSELF in HIS works, especially creation, that's why the adversary is relentless in lying to mankind to give men pretend stories to use to excuse themselves from The Truth,
1) YES GOD did say! 2) we WILL be punished and 3) we are not nor ever will be as GOD, this is the adversarys' goal. they (adversaries) want to control others and demand honour and respect.
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seek The ONE WHO gives true understanding.

this is all you get, 1 choice... "will i obey GOD" and every decision is that same choice.

religion is of the world, not of YHWH.

what we are offered in Yeshua The Son of GOD, is redemption from disobedience, salvation from the wrath of YHWH and a relationship with HIM in peace.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread
it is appointed unto man once to die, then the judgment. at judgment our every disobedience will be called into account, and they will be dealt with.
there are two possible sentences for every man...
for those who are in Christ, a judgment of righteousness.
for those who are not, judgment of condemnation, where every man will bear his own sin and shame. that man will then be eternally separated from heaven, YHWH and HIS family... and all righteousness, and will be cast into a fitting reward for his crimes against The Almighty GOD WHO HIMSELF has had such patience with every one so as to grant them the opportunity to turn from evil and to seek HIS counsel.

my position is certainly not religious, for as did Yeshua, so do i condemn the errors of "churches" made by men, who then ignore the Spirit of YHWH and profess teachings of corrupt men. for those who "go to church" i can only pray and trust in my Father's infinite wisdom, that they may be saved from such things... for it is the "churches" that will wind up slaying many who will have been declared righteous through Yeshua.

now while the language of much of this sounds "religious", i assure you that it is really very simple truth. honour The Father and HIS Son and live.
seek the relationship.

dishonour The Father or HIS Son and risk the just reward for those things done in the earth. we will not be judged according to our own understanding of law... will will be judged against the measure of Yeshua Himself, anything less than HIS Own righteousness will not be sufficient to escape a guilty sentence.

lastly, apart from HIM, worse than nothing is all i could ever be, for at least nothing might not cause offense. you should not ask that i deny HIM, for HE alone is worth all.

my personal reason... Truth and love out of a pure conscience... i will beg you to please begin calling out to HIM with a child-like intent, not with a lot of thought... but with a genuine desire to "find out what is true".
if your statement is true, then your intention should in no way prevent you.

if you hate HIM because you do not want to turn over "control" to HIM, then you need HIM even more. HE IS so wonderful that HE will even befriend an enemy. your choice. please do what you say, seek to know The Truth.
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the worlds is not flat.
water at rest is level, the land is mostly bumpy (mountains/valleys), however there are places in the world that were so soupy at the end of the flood of YHWH in Noah's day that settled nearly perfectly level for tens and hundreds of square miles.
search salt flats.
the stars called mercury,venus,jupiter,saturn etc travel between tropics, cancer in the north and capricorn in the south, over the equator.
having followed them a bit i know exactly were in the sky to find them.
try this... find the star in the center of the sky above us, polaris, and point directly at it using your left hand.
make a 90˚ angle with right arm and point to the horizon(directly east)...
make an arc with right arm tipping a little south as you go from left to right across the sky...
you are pointing to the sky path which is directly above the equator...
of course this location is north of the equator....
your location will definitely affect this, so use gleason map and your location to modify this to fit your observations.
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twitchy  Wrote: (07-12-2018 06:45 PM)
I had to undergo a couple of major surgeries, and just logged back in today for the first time in a long while and I can't find any of my posts. My account says I have 0 posts and 0 threads, need a million posts to rate a thread... not sure what's going on but I put alot of effort in some of the material I posted here, particularly on this thread. What's up with that?

D flushed the entire forum a while back.
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VM  Wrote: (07-12-2018 07:02 PM)
twitchy  Wrote: (07-12-2018 06:45 PM)
I had to undergo a couple of major surgeries, and just logged back in today for the first time in a long while and I can't find any of my posts. My account says I have 0 posts and 0 threads, need a million posts to rate a thread... not sure what's going on but I put alot of effort in some of the material I posted here, particularly on this thread. What's up with that?

D flushed the entire forum a while back.

What happened? Hacked? Jesus H.
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grav  Wrote: (07-12-2018 05:37 PM)
Yes. Over water we should see a drop of 24 feet for a paltry 6 miles.
And we do see it.
Stand up straight, look straight ahead at eye-level and immediately you see it.
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VM  Wrote: (07-12-2018 04:04 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 03:22 PM)
Gravity and Scripture

Two Bible references are helpful in considering the nature of gravity and physical science in general. First, Colossians 1:17 explains that Christ is before all things, and by Him all things consist. The Greek verb for consist (sunistao) means to cohere, preserve, or hold together. Extrabiblical Greek use of this word pictures a container holding water within itself. The word is used in Colossians in the perfect tense, which normally implies a present continuing state arising from a completed past action. One physical mechanism used is obviously gravity, established by the Creator and still maintained without flaw today. Consider the alternative; if gravity ceased for one moment, instant chaos surely would result. All heavenly objects, including the earth, moon and stars, would no longer hold together. Everything would immediately disintegrate into small fragments.

A second reference, Hebrews 1:3, declares that Christ upholds all things by the word of His power. Uphold (phero) again describes the sustaining or maintaining of all things, including gravity. The word uphold in this verse means much more than simply supporting a weight. It includes control of all the ongoing motions and changes within the universe. This infinite task is managed by the Lord’s almighty Word, whereby the universe itself was first called into being. Gravity, the ‘mystery force’, which is poorly understood after nearly four centuries of research, is one of the manifestations of this awesome divine upholding.

Your Lord is Satan.
It appears you are speaking to me of your lord, VM.

So I will speak to you of my Lord, Who is Christ the Son The Father, and quote to you His Words:

Matthew
10:24 The disciple is not above [his] Master, nor the servant above his Lord.
10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be AS his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more [shall they call] them of his household?

Please pay attention VM, to what Christ said in verse 10:25
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