10 Reasons to question the world as a spinning ball in space vacuum.


1. Curvature. Spherical trigonometry dictates that the globe should exhibit a curve of 8 inches per mile squared. No experiments on land or water have ever proven this math to be accurate. On the contrary, with proper telephoto lenses, objects can be detected far beyond the expected curvature. Example: Photos of Chicago from across Lake Michigan.

2. Atmosphere vs space vacuum. Space theoretically begins 62 miles above the earth’s surface, at the Karman Line. The laws of physics say that a vacuum can not exist next to an atmosphere. Without a barrier to separate the two areas, the atmosphere would instantly escape into the hard vacuum of space. Example: open a tank of compressed air; the oxygen or other gases inside the tank will rush outside to achieve equilibrium of air pressure. A vacuum cannot exist next to the atmosphere.

3. Water. Liquid water always seeks its own level. Gravity, which is really the function of density (weight) of objects over distances, cannot cause oceans to curve around the globe. Sea level must be consistent throughout the world. Water, in other words, can not curve. Example: the Pacific Ocean, sea level.

4. Centrifugal force. If earth rotated at 1000 mph at the equator, nothing could withstand being thrown off of it along a curved or tangential path. Gravity is said to be the weakest force in the universe. It is, under any circumstances, unable to overcome the extreme speed of rotation. Gravity is actually the ratio of densities of adjacent objects, such as the density of water compared to that of air.. Examples include insects, clouds, smoke, other low density-objects which rise above the earth despite the alleged gravity and centrifugal force. Example: merry-go-rounds.

5. Authorities.  Professionals in many fields --pilots, engineers, surveyors, gunners, artillerymen, radar operators, etc. -- do not account for curvature in any manner. Example: surveyors never adjust for earth curvature when they design canals, causeway bridges, railroad lines.

6 Moon and sun. Both objects appear to the eye to be the same size, though the moon is around 238,000 miles away and the sun is 93 million miles distant. Sunlight beams deny the claim that rays enter earth’s atmosphere in parallel beams. Using simple geometry, one can determine that the triangular pattern results in a distance of only 3000 miles above. The moon emits a cooling light which illuminates only the clouds which are near it, not those that are further away. Example: sunlight beaming rays through clouds (crepuscular rays) form a triangle with a base of less than 8,000 miles miles

7. Constellations. Star patterns have not altered appreciably in human history. Considering speeds of celestial objects which travel billions of miles per year in multiple directions, as well as earth’s own rotation, revolution around the sun, following the sun through the universe, we should observe some changes in as little as 6 months (stellar parallax). But no such changes have been seen in 6000 years. Example: Orion, Polaris  in the same locations for millennia.

8. Airplane travel. Flights to and from countries in the southern hemisphere always pass over countries in the north, even though they could refuel in places along a direct route. When plotted on the flat earth map, the planes show that they follow a straight line. Example: flights between South America, Africa, Australia.. 

9. No Sensation of movement. If earth actually rotated and revolved around the sun at 67,000 mph, we should hear sonic booms and be swept away by winds far beyond hurricane strength.       Examples: quiet, calm days, east-to-west winds

10. Photographs of earth from space. There are no legitimate pictures or videos of earth.  All pictorial evidence is computer-generated, as are almost all photos of celestial objects. NASA even says that these photographs were created to “match people’s expectations.”  

Other evidence includes fakery from space agencies, including the ISS and the Space Shuttle, further supports the argument that our ideas about space are entirely faked.



Edit: here is daersoulkeeper's thread before the whole forum was rebooted --
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-2063.html

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• 37 Experiments Proving FE: https://youtu.be/OoxhDtnRmBk
• 200 Proofs Earth Is Not a Spinning Ball, http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/...-ball.html
• Flat Earth Research: pp. 999-1001, http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-30-page-999.html

Yours is more informative.

We're back, kids. And we have a clean slate to draw on.

And we already have a new video, thanks to Rothbard.




And my reaction to it, pasted from COP:

Two points struck me in that video, RB.

- It says that 186 miles is the highest altitude a rocket has reached without blowing up. Space begins around 62 miles, the Karman line, where atmospheric gases are virtually nil. Is that anything we can confirm? I'd like to find a video that collects all the verifiable footage of rockets that ascend as high as possible.

- It states that the globe hides the existence of the Creator. I don't get that at all. Even my hard shell Baptist friends believe in the Copernican model. Well, at least the basic belief in the spinning ball, a creation of God. 

Besides, by injecting religion into FE theory, we lose a significant portion of critical thinkers who then lump us in with Luddites who reject science. Imo, all FE discussion should explore facts, and just the facts. Like the ultimate range of rockets. 

Getting the facts is our job. A damned hard job it is too. Tptb hide everything in plain sight. On a plane site. So dig we must. 

Every bump continues this psyop.

Serious question, I dont keep up with this convo.

If the earth is flat, wouldnt the seasons be constant based on where you are?

Explain the change of seasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWB5JZRGl0U

Not this shiz again

Amazing how fast it came back.

See the bait taunt to try to get people to talk too?

Psyop = psyop

Wonder how many visitors over the years have seen a thread title the first time they visited here and left immediately.

Wonder how many people were looking for information on something else, saw the discussion or discussion title and thought everyone here is batshit.

Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:14 PM)

Serious question, I dont keep up with this convo.

If the earth is flat, wouldnt the seasons be constant based on where you are?

Explain the change of seasons.

Mainstream science says the 66.6° (or 23.4°) tilt causes seasons. That means that one location will see a few hundred miles of change with a corresponding difference of more or less light.

We are enjoying warm long days now, since earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than we are in July. Right?


Does that make sense?

grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:29 PM)

Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:14 PM)

Serious question, I dont keep up with this convo.

If the earth is flat, wouldnt the seasons be constant based on where you are?

Explain the change of seasons.

Mainstream science says the 66.6° (or 23.4°) tilt causes seasons. That means that one location will see a few hundred miles of change with a corresponding difference of more or less light.

We are enjoying warm long days now, since earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than we are in July. Right?
link to image: http://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/sun-distances.png?1

Does that make sense?

You've never bothered to learn anything from the many people who honestly tried to help you understand the seasons.
The only conclusions we have are that you intentionally misrepresent or you are incapable of learning.

Which is it grav?

blind prophet  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:28 PM)

Amazing how fast it came back.

See the bait taunt to try to get people to talk too?

Psyop = psyop

Wonder how many visitors over the years have seen a thread title the first time they visited here and left immediately.

Wonder how many people were looking for information on something else, saw the discussion or discussion title and thought everyone here is batshit.

meh... /shrug. D is gonna allow it again... so straight to it I go.

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The earth can't be flat with the midnight sun.





If the earth were flat then the midnight sun would illuminate the entire surface of its flat plane and it could not be nighttime ever.

grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:29 PM)

Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:14 PM)

Serious question, I dont keep up with this convo.

If the earth is flat, wouldnt the seasons be constant based on where you are?

Explain the change of seasons.

Mainstream science says the 66.6° (or 23.4°) tilt causes seasons. That means that one location will see a few hundred miles of change with a corresponding difference of more or less light.

We are enjoying warm long days now, since earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than we are in July. Right?


Does that make sense?

Ive always thought that it is not the distance, but the tilt of the northern hemisphere in the summer toward the sun that caused it to be hotter. We are farther away but tilted toward the sun. Australia is tilted toward the sun in January, so they have super hot summer because they are closer and tilted toward the sun at the same time.

Where I live, it is currently -9 F this morning, but we hit the 90's on the summer. If Im sitting on a disc that doesnt move, why do I get such temperature fluctuations?

Im not asking to disprove your theory, I just want to understand how this can be explained in a FE model.

Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:51 PM)

grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:29 PM)

Mainstream science says the 66.6° (or 23.4°) tilt causes seasons. That means that one location will see a few hundred miles of change with a corresponding difference of more or less light.

We are enjoying warm long days now, since earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than we are in July. Right?


Does that make sense?

Ive always thought that it is not the distance, but the tilt of the northern hemisphere in the summer toward the sun that caused it to be hotter. We are farther away but tilted toward the sun. Australia is tilted toward the sun in January, so they have super hot summer because they are closer and tilted toward the sun at the same time.

Where I live, it is currently -9 F this morning, but we hit the 90's on the summer. If Im sitting on a disc that doesnt move, why do I get such temperature fluctuations?

Im not asking to disprove your theory, I just want to understand how this can be explained in a FE model.

Maybe because the "sun" is smaller and closer to us then what we've been told?

Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:51 PM)

grav  Wrote: (01-02-2018 06:29 PM)

Mainstream science says the 66.6° (or 23.4°) tilt causes seasons. That means that one location will see a few hundred miles of change with a corresponding difference of more or less light.

We are enjoying warm long days now, since earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than we are in July. Right?


Does that make sense?

Ive always thought that it is not the distance, but the tilt of the northern hemisphere in the summer toward the sun that caused it to be hotter. We are farther away but tilted toward the sun. Australia is tilted toward the sun in January, so they have super hot summer because they are closer and tilted toward the sun at the same time.

Where I live, it is currently -9 F this morning, but we hit the 90's on the summer. If Im sitting on a disc that doesnt move, why do I get such temperature fluctuations?

Im not asking to disprove your theory, I just want to understand how this can be explained in a FE model.

Please don't think we have answers. We have theories, just like "real" science does.
Here is one, more concave than flat earth, but I like how the graphics are drawn.


The light source we call the sun is around 3000 miles above the surface. It circles above us between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn through the year. It also ascends and descends in altitude in a spiral. Though it rises in the east, that direction does not apply to the way we are taught with latitude and longitude lines. The only thing I can compare it to is a rainbow, which changes its position according to the perspective of the observer.

Now a bigger question is this: what the heck is the sun? A giant burning ball of gas? A nuclear furnace? It's mostly helium and hydrogen, in theory. So how do lighter than air gases become so heavy that planets whirl around them?