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The Cost of Renewable Energy Is Plunging, and It'll Change Everything
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RE: The Cost of Renewable Energy Is Plunging, and It'll Change Everything
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-03-2018 08:27 AM)
Agreed...... I never understood how the right could be blind about alternative energy. Even to the point of bashing Tesla, the only American car made in the USA.

Everyone has their quirks..

It has nothing to do with left or right.

Alt energy doesn't work as advertised. Do some research.

Exactly. While everyone wants to illicit a knee jerk reaction: ‘muh birds!’ ‘Muh chemtrails!’, ‘muh nukes!’. The biggest hurdle to many of these energy sources (minor the nukes, heh) has always been battery capability. Solar energy is awesome...until you realize a roof full of panels in Texas means you can run a fan and charge your cellphone. You’re not gonna supply your AC, your fridge, from 300 sq Ft of panels. And then there are the batteries, that just ARE NOT capable of supplying and storing even a tenth of the electricity we expect.

It *COULD* work, with a lot of innovation and dialed down expectation.

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WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN, WHERE DO THEY GET THE ELECTRICITY FROM?

NOT THE SOLAR CELL PEOPLES PROBLEM.

A FOSSIL FUEL PLANT. BUILT AT A COST THATS THE SAME IF IT RUNS 24 HOUR OR 16 HOURS.

IN THE TIME IT DOES NOT RUN IT NEEDS TO BE LIVE TO COVER FOR CLOUDS LOSS OF SUN.

YES A VERY BRIGHT SOLUTION.

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Renewable energy is good for everyone.

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NO ITS NOT

ONLY FOR THOSE OFF THE GRID WHO CAN MAINTAIN IT AND AFFORD TO INSTALL IT.

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MAX REVENUE USD 9,200 PER DAY

MIN COST UNINSTALLED 380 MW SOLAR PANELS 250 MILLION.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

ADD IN LAND COST

INSTALLATION

MAINTENANCE

WATER.

A380 MW GAS PLANT COSTS 266 MILLION AND RUNS 24/365 AND IS STILL NEEDED TO COVER THE 16 HOURS WITHOUT SUN.

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Solar panels also don't work for sh*t if a hurricane has just blown them into another county
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GREY LENSMAN  Wrote: (01-03-2018 11:09 AM)
WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN, WHERE DO THEY GET THE ELECTRICITY FROM?

NOT THE SOLAR CELL PEOPLES PROBLEM.

A FOSSIL FUEL PLANT. BUILT AT A COST THATS THE SAME IF IT RUNS 24 HOUR OR 16 HOURS.

IN THE TIME IT DOES NOT RUN IT NEEDS TO BE LIVE TO COVER FOR CLOUDS LOSS OF SUN.

YES A VERY BRIGHT SOLUTION.

S977

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The only way solar energy will ever be close, is if they have the solar panels in orbit so nothing ever blocks the sun, and of course a method to get the power down to the ground.
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didn't work out to well.......chuckle

Obama clean energy loans leave taxpayers in $2.2 billion hole

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...taxpayers/
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Solar panels also don't work for sh*t if a hurricane has just blown them into another county

UNQUOTE

VERY TRUE

THEY DONT STAND UP TO SAND AND DUST EITHER.

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President Camacho  Wrote: (01-03-2018 08:45 AM)
Renewable energy is good for everyone. Despite this fact, where I live, people petition against wind energy because the wind towers make too much of a "whoosh" sound. Kinda sad if you ask me. I wouldn't want them on my property either, but there are plenty of places to put them.

Yep, put them out at sea, the fish don't complain.
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Bump

I would not want to leave our kids and grand kids living in filth and pollution. I'm all for renewable asap

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UPPITY

WHAT FILTH AND POLLUTION?

CO2 IS CLEAN

CONTROLLED REGULATED COAL IS CLEAN

LEAN BURN ENGINES ARE CLEAN.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????????

DIESELS ARE A LITTLE BIT NASTY BUT MANDATED BY GREEN DEMANDS

HOW STUPID IS THAT?


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5* Op.
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It's plunging because nobody is using it.

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Hrd2Stbd  Wrote: (01-03-2018 03:39 PM)
It's plunging because nobody is using it.

No, the exact opposite. The experience curve means the more that is deployed, the cheaper it gets through improvements in manufaturing and economies of scale.

Solar panels ( PV ) $100 /Wattt in 1976 $0.35 /Watt in 2017

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