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Anyone know anything about rubies?
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RE: Anyone know anything about rubies?
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They're red sapphires.
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I'd be more suspicious about the authenticity of a ring being 24 carat gold.

Gold is very soft and wears quickly, so 18K or so is the norm. Indian jewelry tends to be the topmost quality, and that is usually 22 carat gold.
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I can't see a real ruby being that large as well as that dark, though a garnet could be. Philippines isn't known for mining them, though Burma/Thailand aren't that far away. Either it's worth a dragon's hoard of a fortune (bought by a girl?? how wealthy was she?) or it isn't what you think it is. The claim it's 24K gold makes me doubt it's authenticity (children are easy to con), but you never know until you try.
However if it did turn out to be not what you expected, don't blame the jeweler. Swapping stones is very unlikely on the spot, since they'd have to have one of similar size and shape handy. There are simple acid tests for gold so get that appraised too (a decent place will tell you the purity for free).
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The ring was purchased in 1935, making it 83 years old. There's every possibility the ring is genuine, especially having been crafted in the Philippines at that time, probably by an excellent jeweler.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-14-2018 02:43 AM)
The ring was purchased in 1935, making it 83 years old. There's every possibility the ring is genuine, especially having been crafted in the Philippines at that time, probably by an excellent jeweler.

Also, I think the raw ruby is heated up to give it that rich, dark ruby color.
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Derelict  Wrote: (01-14-2018 02:49 AM)
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oh thought you said Rubles, nevermindLmao
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The ring was purchased in 1935, making it 83 years old. There's every possibility the ring is genuine, especially having been crafted in the Philippines at that time, probably by an excellent jeweler.

Also, I think the raw ruby is heated up to give it that rich, dark ruby color.

About 95% of all rubies are heat treated.

Almost ALL rubies sold in the US in the last 50 years are glass filled. I see hundreds every year, and the non filled are the minority. Macy's recently got into trouble over that, but glass filled ruby has been the standard at Macy's, Neiman Marcus, and other low-end retailers.

Bottom line is that a nice genuine ruby starts at $5000/carat. If it cost you less, it's a guarantee that corners were cut somewhere. The stone integrity first, then the cut, and finally the general condition of the piece, are the main adjustments for price.

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There was once a mountain of them in India with a rainbow over it.
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LunaC  Wrote: (01-14-2018 01:11 AM)
Ahanata  Wrote: (01-14-2018 12:20 AM)
This same thread was done about a year ago. Word for word.

As stated then, take it to be appraised.

If I see this again...it will be deleted.

from 0-100 % how sure would you put that on the "word for word" part of that. Just curious for a thought I'm having.

About 90% percent.

The title I believe was, "Anyone know the value of ruby rings"

I distinctly remember it was a grandmothers ring from the Philippines, from 1935 and was large surrounded by diamonds, set in 24 k gold.

Even Chrysos replied in that thread then.

I know this thread was posted awhile ago....now just bits of data in the ether.

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Yes, I remember this same thread, with this same ring description.

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Ahanata  Wrote: (01-14-2018 03:17 AM)
LunaC  Wrote: (01-14-2018 01:11 AM)
from 0-100 % how sure would you put that on the "word for word" part of that. Just curious for a thought I'm having.

About 90% percent.

The title I believe was, "Anyone know the value of ruby rings"

I distinctly remember it was a grandmothers ring from the Philippines, from 1935 and was large surrounded by diamonds, set in 24 k gold.

Even Chrysos replied in that thread then.

I know this thread was posted awhile ago....now just bits of data in the ether.

ty I appreciate that reply.
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why the fuss if the person has a question that needs to be answered? I would do as others suggested op and take it to a reputable jeweler but not let it out of my sight.
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Post: #29
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Chrysophylax  Wrote: (01-14-2018 12:27 AM)
It is pretty rare for a jeweler to "switch" your stones. In more than 20 years, I have never heard of it happening in real life. Everyone has a friend of a friend story, and every one I have checked on turned out to be bullshit.

The likelihood that a jeweler has a stone he *could* switch is also very small when your stone is unusual.

ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY WONT LET A STONE OUT OF THEIR SIGHT WILL BE IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY REMOVED FROM MY STORE. IF YOU DON'T TRUST YOUR JEWELER, GO TO ONE YOU DO TRUST.

90% of the time, when a customer has a "large ruby," which they always insist is authentic, it will be one of three things:

1. A garnet.
2. A synthetic.
3. A dyed white sapphire that has been heated and glass filled.

A genuine ruby is one of the most valuable of gems, but only if it is actually genuine. There are a lot of ways in which you might be disappointed.

The most reliable and trustworthy way to determine the authenticity of your gem is to send it to GIA in New York or Carlsbad, and pay their $160 fee. You will get a gem lab report, which you can then take to a jeweler for an appraisal which should run about $60 more.





Where is your store?

Please post name and location so word can get out not to visit an ass hole like you!

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