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Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
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Michael-AK  Wrote: (05-16-2018 06:04 PM)
Other than me, how many people here read Muellers indictment and the USC code?

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028A






Bueller?



Bueller?




Bueller?





Bueller?





It is a real crime. They are effectively being charged with identity theft and not registering as foreign agents.

They impersonated Americans to promote politics without registering as foreign agents.

That is a crime.

Of course they will fight it. They will say this and that. And some of them might go to jail for their crimes. And in the future foreigners will be far less likely to intrude.

And stupid people will believe anything from blogs and Russians as long as it appears to exonerate the side that they choose to be on.
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Post: #17
RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
https://www.burr.senate.gov/press/releas...-elections

“Despite the short time frame they had to prepare it, the intelligence community did a very good job with the ICA,” said Vice Chairman Warner. “After a thorough review, our staff concluded that the ICA conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton. In order to protect our democracy from future threats, we must understand what happened in 2016. And while our Committee’s investigation remains ongoing, one thing is already abundantly clear – we have to do a better job in the future if we want to protect our elections from foreign interference.”
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
Damrod  Wrote: (05-16-2018 06:41 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (05-16-2018 06:07 PM)
You believe Russian defense lawyers representing Russian Trolls over the former FBI director investigating Russian interference in our elections?

HAVE I GOT A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU!

IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND CHEAP!



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No dumbass....

what I believe is every country out there tries to influence the elections of other countries...are you completely daft?

The Russians did nothing that the USA has not done a lot more of....

You think it's ok for us to manupilate elections in other countries? Newsflash moron...we do it all the time.

When we stop doing that, then perhaps we can demand other people stay out of ours...till that time

deal with it.

The US is two faced on this. They have tried, and often succeeded, in influencing foreign elections. It is against the law here and people are being prosecuted for doing it.

Both, at the same time, without conflict.

You said, "of course it is." In my reply, I did assume that you were referring to the OP and/or thread title.

You effectively said, "Of course it is 'a make-believe crime'".

No, you are wrong. It is a Federal Crime.

And then you fell off the context of the thread and played dichotomy games.

I never said those things. I was only speaking about what you said. What you said is not true.

The US government need not allow other nations to influence it's elections even when the US is influencing theirs.

I agree that it is hypocritical. But hypocrisy does not invalidate domestic law. The lawyers are desperate on all sides. They demand more than they expect to get so they can settle for less later or try to wriggle a technicality. It is their trade. I do not blame them for trying.

But if they were doing what they are accused of it is a crime.
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
Michael-AK  Wrote: (05-16-2018 08:45 PM)
Damrod  Wrote: (05-16-2018 06:41 PM)
No dumbass....

what I believe is every country out there tries to influence the elections of other countries...are you completely daft?

The Russians did nothing that the USA has not done a lot more of....

You think it's ok for us to manupilate elections in other countries? Newsflash moron...we do it all the time.

When we stop doing that, then perhaps we can demand other people stay out of ours...till that time

deal with it.

The US is two faced on this. They have tried, and often succeeded, in influencing foreign elections. It is against the law here and people are being prosecuted for doing it.

Both, at the same time, without conflict.

You said, "of course it is." In my reply, I did assume that you were referring to the OP and/or thread title.

You effectively said, "Of course it is 'a make-believe crime'".

No, you are wrong. It is a Federal Crime.

And then you fell off the context of the thread and played dichotomy games.

I never said those things. I was only speaking about what you said. What you said is not true.

The US government need not allow other nations to influence it's elections even when the US is influencing theirs.

I agree that it is hypocritical. But hypocrisy does not invalidate domestic law. The lawyers are desperate on all sides. They demand more than they expect to get so they can settle for less later or try to wriggle a technicality. It is their trade. I do not blame them for trying.

But if they were doing what they are accused of it is a crime.


No.... hypocrisy is a very important part of this entire "matter". If you do not "get it"...then that is your complete and utter failure as a thinking human being, not mine.

You do not get to act like a complete and total asshat when you find out someone else is doing to you what you have been doing to them....you just don't.

reality just isn't going to bend to that delusion.

When you stop doing to others what you do not want done to yourself...then you will start to see how things work.
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
Damrod  Wrote: (05-16-2018 08:51 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (05-16-2018 08:45 PM)
The US is two faced on this. They have tried, and often succeeded, in influencing foreign elections. It is against the law here and people are being prosecuted for doing it.

Both, at the same time, without conflict.

You said, "of course it is." In my reply, I did assume that you were referring to the OP and/or thread title.

You effectively said, "Of course it is 'a make-believe crime'".

No, you are wrong. It is a Federal Crime.

And then you fell off the context of the thread and played dichotomy games.

I never said those things. I was only speaking about what you said. What you said is not true.

The US government need not allow other nations to influence it's elections even when the US is influencing theirs.

I agree that it is hypocritical. But hypocrisy does not invalidate domestic law. The lawyers are desperate on all sides. They demand more than they expect to get so they can settle for less later or try to wriggle a technicality. It is their trade. I do not blame them for trying.

But if they were doing what they are accused of it is a crime.


No.... hypocrisy is a very important part of this entire "matter". If you do not "get it"...then that is your complete and utter failure as a thinking human being, not mine.

You do not get to act like a complete and total asshat when you find out someone else is doing to you what you have been doing to them....you just don't.

reality just isn't going to bend to that delusion.

When you stop doing to others what you do not want done to yourself...then you will start to see how things work.

I never said that hypocrisy is not a big part of it.

It is another issue. Related, but not the subject of the thread.

I agree with you. The US is hypocritical.

I do not agree that this hypocrisy invalidates US law.
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Damrod
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Post: #21
RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
Michael-AK  Wrote: (05-16-2018 08:54 PM)
Damrod  Wrote: (05-16-2018 08:51 PM)
No.... hypocrisy is a very important part of this entire "matter". If you do not "get it"...then that is your complete and utter failure as a thinking human being, not mine.

You do not get to act like a complete and total asshat when you find out someone else is doing to you what you have been doing to them....you just don't.

reality just isn't going to bend to that delusion.

When you stop doing to others what you do not want done to yourself...then you will start to see how things work.

I never said that hypocrisy is not a big part of it.

It is another issue. Related, but not the subject of the thread.

I agree with you. The US is hypocritical.

I do not agree that this hypocrisy invalidates US law.

You can try to side step all you want....

the entire issue is about hypocrisy.

The point of this entire thread hinges around...hypocrisy.

We still do not "know" if Russia hacked the DNC or if Seth Rich downloaded the info and passed it off on a flash drive later to be murdered in a faked robbery.

....we...do...not...know.

I will tell you this and you can get as self righteous as you want...

I have much more respect for people that admit they have done wrong and then take steps to correct the wrongs they have done and assure they will never happen again...

over...

People that will lie, cheat, pay off or murder anyone that might expose their dirty underbelly.

The darkside of politics is filled with members of all parties. The very organization of government is itself...corrupt...so therefore it corrupts everyone who becomes a part of it.

You aere claiming the fake news legacy media story is essentially correct and them damn Russians sure pulled a fast one on us.

I am not prepared to accept that scenario as even being remotely possible knowing what I know about the other goings on behind the curtains.

You are misinformed or you are a willing mouthpiece of the official story narrative.

how much does that pay these days?...Used to be about...

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Post: #22
RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-16-2018 07:50 PM)
https://www.burr.senate.gov/press/releas...-elections

“Despite the short time frame they had to prepare it, the intelligence community did a very good job with the ICA,” said Vice Chairman Warner. “After a thorough review, our staff concluded that the ICA conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton. In order to protect our democracy from future threats, we must understand what happened in 2016. And while our Committee’s investigation remains ongoing, one thing is already abundantly clear – we have to do a better job in the future if we want to protect our elections from foreign interference.”

This is the statement of Warner - the lead Democrat on the committee.

The testimony of former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former Director of CIA John Brennan, and former Director of NSA Mike Rogers will inform the Committee’s final report on this “chapter” of its Russia inquiry.


Who are these guys? Two Clintonistas who pushed the "Russia helped Trump" narrative and who pushed the dossier based "Trump colluded with Russia" narrative. (Sometimes referred to as the "Treason Twins").

Rogers (a non-Clintonista) is on record that the information Putin was directly involved was dubious.
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Post: #23
RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-16-2018 09:48 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-16-2018 07:50 PM)
https://www.burr.senate.gov/press/releas...-elections

“Despite the short time frame they had to prepare it, the intelligence community did a very good job with the ICA,” said Vice Chairman Warner. “After a thorough review, our staff concluded that the ICA conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton. In order to protect our democracy from future threats, we must understand what happened in 2016. And while our Committee’s investigation remains ongoing, one thing is already abundantly clear – we have to do a better job in the future if we want to protect our elections from foreign interference.”

This is the statement of Warner - the lead Democrat on the committee.

The testimony of former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former Director of CIA John Brennan, and former Director of NSA Mike Rogers will inform the Committee’s final report on this “chapter” of its Russia inquiry.


Who are these guys? Two Clintonistas who pushed the "Russia helped Trump" narrative and who pushed the dossier based "Trump colluded with Russia" narrative. (Sometimes referred to as the "Treason Twins").

Rogers (a non-Clintonista) is on record that the information Putin was directly involved was dubious.


I agree but...

here is the thing...

it is all....100%...irrelevant.

it is a known fact that all countries get involved to some level in the elections of other countries.

Whether it is financially backing a candidate (whether legal or not) or seeking to influence public opinion about another candidate...the bottom line is they all do it.

Who draws the line and where and to whose benefit?

The fact is, money is a powerful agent in the election process. It's funny it did not work against Trump, but if you think about it in a sideways kind of way....the left wing media gave Trump billions in free advertising by talking about him 24/7 leading up to the election.

You cannot pay for that kind of press.

There is no such thing as bad press
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Post: #24
RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
Michael-AK  Wrote: (05-16-2018 06:04 PM)
Other than me, how many people here read Muellers indictment and the USC code?

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028A

Bueller?
Bueller?
Bueller?
Bueller?

It is a real crime. They are effectively being charged with identity theft and not registering as foreign agents.

They impersonated Americans to promote politics without registering as foreign agents.

That is a crime.

Of course they will fight it. They will say this and that. And some of them might go to jail for their crimes. And in the future foreigners will be far less likely to intrude.

And stupid people will believe anything from blogs and Russians as long as it appears to exonerate the side that they choose to be on.

It is not a crime. Idiot.
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05-16-2018 11:36 PM

 



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Lawyer for Russian company says Mueller's office slow to hand over evidence

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A lawyer representing a Russian company charged with funding a propaganda operation to meddle in the 2016 U.S. presidential election accused Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office of delays in handing over evidence at a testy hearing on Wednesday.

“I anticipate that we’re going to get this massive dump of social media stuff that’s in Russian,” Dubelier said.

Prosecutor Jeannie Rhee disputed that assertion, saying it was “not irrelevant material.”

The next hearing in the case was scheduled for June 15.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t...SKCN1IH2VP
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-16-2018 11:24 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (05-16-2018 06:04 PM)
Other than me, how many people here read Muellers indictment and the USC code?

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028A

Bueller?
Bueller?
Bueller?
Bueller?

It is a real crime. They are effectively being charged with identity theft and not registering as foreign agents.

They impersonated Americans to promote politics without registering as foreign agents.

That is a crime.

Of course they will fight it. They will say this and that. And some of them might go to jail for their crimes. And in the future foreigners will be far less likely to intrude.

And stupid people will believe anything from blogs and Russians as long as it appears to exonerate the side that they choose to be on.

It is not a crime. Idiot.

Yes, it is.
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
And God Emperor H.E. Muller said!

[ ]LET THERE BE SWISS!!![/size]
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
THE COMPANY EXISTED IN RUSSIA.
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Post: #29
RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
Яudis  Wrote: (05-16-2018 07:12 PM)
The Internet Research Agency (IRA) Coined the TROLL FACTORY.
Is a F#CKING Internet MARKETING COMPANY.

There is NOTHING Illegal about a 3rd Party Paying them to
Market For TRUMP! That is since Obama Era Campaign Law
Got Changed! So the liberals F#CKED themselves on that
deal now they are CRYING ABOUT IT!

Lmao Lmao Lmao Lmao Lmao Lmao
This is a FACT!

Campaign Funding laws and rules were changed back in 2014.
The liberals passed into law a rule that 3rd parties can buy ads and marketing companies for a candidate with or without the candidates approval.But the ad must have disclaimer attached!

A 3rd Party hired.
The Internet Research Agency (IRA) AKA The TROLL FACTORY.
To Run Ads and Post to internet for Trump Team.
Twitter
Instagram
Facebook
SnapChat
YouTube
Various forums and blogs

And yet another 3rd party hired internet Designers
to create a MEME/Video Barrage on the internet.

As long as the money went straight to these companies and never to the election finance team of Donald John Trump is was all perfectly legal ad fair.

The RUSSIA COLLUSION PROBE is all FAKERY and LIES from the LIBERAL DEMOCRAT CRYBABIES who are PISSED The TRUMP contributors ran a
NEVER Before seen Internet CAMPAIGN For President!

THEY TOTALLY GOT OWNED in the 2016 Election and they are PISSED Off!
That RULES they created so they could CHEAT were used against them to Help Donald Trump WIN in a LANDSLIDE Election.
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RE: Russian company indicted by Mueller slams case as a 'make-believe crime'
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-17-2018 02:24 AM)
THE COMPANY EXISTED IN RUSSIA.
Yes its a legal Internet Marketing COMPANY just like
THOUSANDS of Legal Internet Marketing Companies!

Oh Boo Hoo it happens to Be a RUSSIAN Company!
Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo CRYBABY Beotch!
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