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AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
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Post: #76
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-14-2018 01:19 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-14-2018 12:44 PM)
Re: your silly grav - style meme.

I thought you said there was no such thing as race?

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the isn't.. no races but the one human race

never said there wasn't a social construct that has always been designed to influence public cultural opinion and tolerance.. racial profiling and racial designations used by authorities are tools they used to attach names to ethnicity.. biologically and anthropologically there are no multiple human races

That's why you have no friends...you talk sh*t to try and save face when you are obviously wrong.
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Post: #77
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-14-2018 01:24 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-14-2018 01:19 PM)
the isn't.. no races but the one human race

never said there wasn't a social construct that has always been designed to influence public cultural opinion and tolerance.. racial profiling and racial designations used by authorities are tools they used to attach names to ethnicity.. biologically and anthropologically there are no multiple human races

That's why you have no friends...you talk sh*t to try and save face when you are obviously wrong.

ok well yeah..
I guess I was.

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racial profiling a pretty dumb idea.. more about racial vilification than attributing crime to ethenticity
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Recent enhanced high-summer North Atlantic Jet variability emerges from three-century context

Quote:The position and strength of the Northern Hemisphere polar jet stream are important modulators of mid-latitude weather extremes1 and their societal, ecosystem, and economic impacts2. In Europe, the position of the North Atlantic Jet (NAJ) drives temperature and precipitation extremes3,4 by controlling the location of the Atlantic storm track and by influencing the occurrence and duration of near-stationary atmospheric pressure fields (“atmospheric blocking”). The NAJ is strongest in winter5, but also influences European climate in summer, the season that is most commonly recorded in tree rings as climate proxies. In summer, a southern NAJ regime is associated with a decrease in blocking frequency over the British Isles (BRIT) and northwestern Europe that can result in floods in these regions6. In the northeastern Mediterranean (NEMED), on the other hand, the southern NAJ regime phase increases blocking frequency as well as the odds of heatwaves3. Such conditions occurred during the summer of 2007, when BRIT experienced the second wettest summer on record since 19127, whereas record-breaking high temperatures—with departures from the seasonal means exceeding 4 °C in some areas8—were observed across NEMED that led to excess human mortality and prompted catastrophic wildfires9. In contrast, the summer of 1976—when the NAJ was in an anomalously northward position and blocking patterns were reversed—was one of the driest and hottest summers on record in BRIT, but was associated with a NEMED cold extreme10. General circulation models (GCMs) systematically overestimate the seasonal cycle in the NAJ latitudinal position about the mean, with the majority of simulations showing a poleward bias in summer NAJ position compared to observational records11,12. GCM simulations largely agree, however, in their projection of the mean position of the mid-latitude jet stream to shift poleward in future climates with increased anthropogenic forcing11 and this result is particularly robust for the NAJ and for the summer season13,14.

An exceptional number of mid-latitude extreme weather events over the last decade has encouraged a suite of observational and modeling studies investigating the relative role of anthropogenic climate forcing and natural variability in driving this recent increase in weather extremes2,4,15. One hypothesis suggests variability in the amplitude and speed of the Northern Hemisphere jet stream as a potential mechanism linking recent mid-latitude weather extremes to anthropogenic warming16,17,18. This hypothesis is largely based on statistical associations between observational or atmospheric reanalysis data that are supported by plausible physical mechanisms. However, the data sets most frequently used provide relatively short time series (1979–present for the satellite era, 1948–present for the reanalysis era) that do not warrant robust results from a statistical significance perspective and that hamper the detection of non-linear relationships in a complex climate system19. Long-term records of jet stream variability are thus needed to put recent trends in a historical perspective and to investigate non-linear relationships between jet stream variability, mid-latitude extreme weather events, and anthropogenic climate change17,18.

Here we reconstruct interannual variability in the latitudinal position of the August NAJ back to 1725 CE by combining two summer temperature-sensitive tree-ring records. We find that extreme weather events—including floods, heatwaves, and wildfires—in BRIT and NEMED over the past 300 years have been linked to August NAJ anomalies. Our NAJ reconstruction shows that late twentieth century NAJ positions fall within the range of the preceding centuries, but that a recent increase in the number of NAJ anomalies is unprecedented. This increase in NAJ variance coincides with enhanced variance in the Pacific Basin and points to an increase in interannual meridional jet stream variability since the 1960s.

more:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02699-3

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Post: #79
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-15-2018 07:09 AM)
Recent enhanced high-summer North Atlantic Jet variability emerges from three-century context

Quote:The position and strength of the Northern Hemisphere polar jet stream are important modulators of mid-latitude weather extremes1 and their societal, ecosystem, and economic impacts2. In Europe, the position of the North Atlantic Jet (NAJ) drives temperature and precipitation extremes3,4 by controlling the location of the Atlantic storm track and by influencing the occurrence and duration of near-stationary atmospheric pressure fields (“atmospheric blocking”). The NAJ is strongest in winter5, but also influences European climate in summer, the season that is most commonly recorded in tree rings as climate proxies. In summer, a southern NAJ regime is associated with a decrease in blocking frequency over the British Isles (BRIT) and northwestern Europe that can result in floods in these regions6. In the northeastern Mediterranean (NEMED), on the other hand, the southern NAJ regime phase increases blocking frequency as well as the odds of heatwaves3. Such conditions occurred during the summer of 2007, when BRIT experienced the second wettest summer on record since 19127, whereas record-breaking high temperatures—with departures from the seasonal means exceeding 4 °C in some areas8—were observed across NEMED that led to excess human mortality and prompted catastrophic wildfires9. In contrast, the summer of 1976—when the NAJ was in an anomalously northward position and blocking patterns were reversed—was one of the driest and hottest summers on record in BRIT, but was associated with a NEMED cold extreme10. General circulation models (GCMs) systematically overestimate the seasonal cycle in the NAJ latitudinal position about the mean, with the majority of simulations showing a poleward bias in summer NAJ position compared to observational records11,12. GCM simulations largely agree, however, in their projection of the mean position of the mid-latitude jet stream to shift poleward in future climates with increased anthropogenic forcing11 and this result is particularly robust for the NAJ and for the summer season13,14.

An exceptional number of mid-latitude extreme weather events over the last decade has encouraged a suite of observational and modeling studies investigating the relative role of anthropogenic climate forcing and natural variability in driving this recent increase in weather extremes2,4,15. One hypothesis suggests variability in the amplitude and speed of the Northern Hemisphere jet stream as a potential mechanism linking recent mid-latitude weather extremes to anthropogenic warming16,17,18. This hypothesis is largely based on statistical associations between observational or atmospheric reanalysis data that are supported by plausible physical mechanisms. However, the data sets most frequently used provide relatively short time series (1979–present for the satellite era, 1948–present for the reanalysis era) that do not warrant robust results from a statistical significance perspective and that hamper the detection of non-linear relationships in a complex climate system19. Long-term records of jet stream variability are thus needed to put recent trends in a historical perspective and to investigate non-linear relationships between jet stream variability, mid-latitude extreme weather events, and anthropogenic climate change17,18.

Here we reconstruct interannual variability in the latitudinal position of the August NAJ back to 1725 CE by combining two summer temperature-sensitive tree-ring records. We find that extreme weather events—including floods, heatwaves, and wildfires—in BRIT and NEMED over the past 300 years have been linked to August NAJ anomalies. Our NAJ reconstruction shows that late twentieth century NAJ positions fall within the range of the preceding centuries, but that a recent increase in the number of NAJ anomalies is unprecedented. This increase in NAJ variance coincides with enhanced variance in the Pacific Basin and points to an increase in interannual meridional jet stream variability since the 1960s.

more:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02699-3

At any point did you ask yourself, "how did they measure the jetstream 300 years ago"?

Im guessing you didn't.
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Post: #80
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-15-2018 07:14 AM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-15-2018 07:09 AM)
Recent enhanced high-summer North Atlantic Jet variability emerges from three-century context


more:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02699-3

At any point did you ask yourself, "how did they measure the jetstream 300 years ago"?

Im guessing you didn't.

I didn't have to I already knew how they do that. thanks for asking.


Quote:The research is the first reconstruction of historical changes in the North Atlantic jet stream prior to the 20th century. By studying tree rings from trees in the British Isles and the northeastern Mediterranean, the team teased out those regions' late-summer weather going back almost 300 years — to 1725.

"We find that the position of the North Atlantic jet in summer has been a strong driver of climate extremes in Europe for the last 300 years," said Valerie Trouet, an associate professor of dendrochronology at the UA Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research.

Having a 290-year record of the position of the jet stream let Trouet and her colleagues determine that swings between northern and southern positions of the jet became more frequent in the second half of the 20th century, she said.

"Since 1960 we get more years when the jet is in an extreme position," Trouet said, adding that the increase is unprecedented.

When the North Atlantic jet is in the extreme northern position, the British Isles and western Europe have a summer heat wave while southeastern Europe has heavy rains and flooding, she said.

When the jet is in the extreme southern position, the situation flips: Western Europe has heavy rains and flooding while southeastern Europe has extreme high temperatures, drought and wildfires.

https://uanews.arizona.edu/story/jet-str...me-weather

try this one .. you maybe able to understand it better
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Post: #81
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
Big Oil cannot be sued for climate change, since all of the data on climate change has been falsified, and re-falsified. I doubt the "scientists" even know where the line begins anymore at all.

If Big Oil were to be brought into a courtroom, then real evidence would need to be presented. Real evidence would blow the top off of this made up charade and the people would actually get to see behind the curtain. So it wont happen...

This thread is a good example of the problems with this new religion.

It seems as I read through this obvious shill fest for Global warming, (not this post but the thread) if you disagree with the OP, he berates and insults you. If he posts obvious made up meme's and disinformation, you must believe it wholesale, or he berates and insults you. Pretty much, he berates and insults you.

No amount of berates and insults you will change the fact that these climatologists have sh*t the bed by being caught falsifying the data. This didn't happen once, they were caught allover the place, on all sets of data.

This appears to be an orchestrated attempt to deceive the world with bad information. No real scientist would be party to this, at least none with even a shred of personal credibility. So one really has to wonder how high the orders for this came from and of course what the end game is.

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Post: #82
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
v³Exceed  Wrote: (01-15-2018 07:33 PM)
Big Oil cannot be sued for climate change, since all of the data on climate change has been falsified, and re-falsified. I doubt the "scientists" even know where the line begins anymore at all.

If Big Oil were to be brought into a courtroom, then real evidence would need to be presented. Real evidence would blow the top off of this made up charade and the people would actually get to see behind the curtain. So it wont happen...

This thread is a good example of the problems with this new religion.

It seems as I read through this obvious shill fest for Global warming, (not this post but the thread) if you disagree with the OP, he berates and insults you. If he posts obvious made up meme's and disinformation, you must believe it wholesale, or he berates and insults you. Pretty much, he berates and insults you.

No amount of berates and insults you will change the fact that these climatologists have sh*t the bed by being caught falsifying the data. This didn't happen once, they were caught allover the place, on all sets of data.

This appears to be an orchestrated attempt to deceive the world with bad information. No real scientist would be party to this, at least none with even a shred of personal credibility. So one really has to wonder how high the orders for this came from and of course what the end game is.

Well said.

Additionally, this thread not only typical of the OP, (whom sports a name derived from the not-to-be-mentioned pooh-pit), it is also a micro-cosm of the identical technique used in mainstream media to foist this garbage on less astute minds.
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Post: #83
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so you really think they would be bringing it to court if they couldn't prove the data is correct and was never falsified and I they would also have a very good case for big oil's hired public officials continued unwavering malfeasance and psychological operations on the public discourse for many years.

that is a hell of a lot of money to throw at lawyers if what you brainwashed anti science clowns assert is even close to being the case.

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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (Yesterday 08:39 AM)
so you really think they would be bringing it to court if they couldn't prove the data is correct and was never falsified and I they would also have a very good case for big oil's hired public officials continued unwavering malfeasance and psychological operations on the public discourse for many years.

that is a hell of a lot of money to throw at lawyers if what you brainwashed anti science clowns assert is even close to being the case.


Anti science?

Fuckoff try anti junk science.

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Post: #85
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (Yesterday 08:54 AM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (Yesterday 08:39 AM)
so you really think they would be bringing it to court if they couldn't prove the data is correct and was never falsified and I they would also have a very good case for big oil's hired public officials continued unwavering malfeasance and psychological operations on the public discourse for many years.

that is a hell of a lot of money to throw at lawyers if what you brainwashed anti science clowns assert is even close to being the case.


Anti science?

Fuckoff try anti junk science.

Hifuck

ok mister real science don't trust what I say.. tell us why NYC and LA city legal departments would spend the huge sums needed to put this sort of very costly litigation to court.. I mean why would they bother?
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Post: #86
RE: AGW forced climate change is not up for debate.
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (Yesterday 09:20 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (Yesterday 08:54 AM)
Anti science?

Fuckoff try anti junk science.

Hifuck

ok mister real science don't trust what I say.. tell us why NYC and LA city legal departments would spend the huge sums needed to put this sort of very costly litigation to court.. I mean why would they bother?

Firstly, you should be asking yourself who are 'they'.

It's probably just a stunt. You guys are pretty much being ignored now and you're desperate.
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Post: #87
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (Yesterday 10:33 AM)
Firstly, you should be asking yourself who are 'they'.

no ,I am asking you

why if they weren't confident the science is settled and the data they base it on is correct and they can show it in court, why would they bother?
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