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Planting rose bushes...
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So I sealed most of the driveway last nght..

I came back with the mulch...

Turned the car around to unload it...

Anyways where I turned my wheels is messed up now...

The driveway was not as thirsty as I estimated so that spot is getting a second coat...

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Post: #47
RE: Planting rose bushes...
Best price is bare root in the fall out west.
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RE: Planting rose bushes...
I got rid of my expensive ones years ago. Thorns, black spot, too much upkeep. If it isn't edible and/or native to my area, I don't want it. Mostly I plant for butterflies and bees. Coral honeysuckle for hummingbirds. I love lavender but lavender doesn't like my heat and humidity.

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RE: Planting rose bushes...
I bought a few more this morning...

1 lilac planted...

3 white flowering things...

7 rose rushes planted...

8 to go unless I buy more...

I was trying to put 2 in a hole but there are some rocks here...

So some holes only have one...

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RE: Planting rose bushes...
It rained much of the day...

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I planted 3 out by the fence when it was actually rose planting time...

so 18 more rose bushes for this year....

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2 died by the fence over winter...

2 by the back...

1 by the side...

So I am up 13 bushes...

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RE: Planting rose bushes...
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1) Don't buy roses from box stores

2) Don't buy roses in bodybags

3) Don't buy unnamed or unmarked roses or someplace where the tags can be switched

4) Do go to a local nursery, ask for OWN ROOT ROSES

5) Plant more tender in hardiness roses around the house, they'll benefit from the extra bit of heat

6) Try to plant roses 1 zone hardier than your area requires if you're a rose newbie

7) All roses don't need to be covered! Look up your rose, know what kind it is. The Canadian roses don't need to be covered but they don't have much fragrance either. They're hard to kill.

8) Hybrid teas generally need to be covered if it snows where you are but be careful not to rot them in spring.

9) Plant banana peels around the drip line of your roses. Give the roses coffee grounds which will attract earthworms. Sprinkle the coffee grounds around the garden and dig them in.

10) Consider grandifloras and hybrid teas as annuals, if they come back the next year it's a bonus. In the fall cut back the canes and mound up the dirt over the canes. Then cover with hay.

http://www.easyeleganceroses.com

That's a great brand of roses bred in Minnesota, they grow great, some have fragrance.

I've grown over 200 varieties of roses in a cold climate, taken the time to type out a thoughtful comment, and I am ignored.

Thanks.

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Post: #52
RE: Planting rose bushes...
Jb  Wrote: (06-05-2018 07:14 AM)
silversides  Wrote: (06-04-2018 05:57 PM)
A few of the rose bushes died...

Either last years flood or the harsh winter...

If anyone knows how to find the cheapest price let me know...

In a store might be best but online is good too...

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I am fixing a sump pump today...

You gotta respect the worms and wood bugs. The worms deal with your dead roots below, and the wood bugs deal with up above. Both produce shitnwhich your plants love. They do not like chemicals. They leave. Figure it out..f*#k!

yes!! work WITH nature not against it.
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Post: #53
RE: Planting rose bushes...
I just planted 2 more...

I ran out of sand...

I am going on a sand run and mulch...

Loews recovery bags...

I might buy mulch although it is the wrong color...

I have top soil...

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Then back to Walmart for cheap crisp roses...

Some of them have started flowering....

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The Walmart lady says they will not give them time to water them...

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-06-2018 12:24 AM)
Best price is bare root in the fall out west.

I will try....

Some die every year...

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Post: #55
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silversides  Wrote: (06-04-2018 06:19 PM)
When Home Depot went bankrupt they still had everything in the fall...
At a huge discount...

Anyways the manager gave me a even larger discount because they were angry about losing their jobs...

We still have home depot and lowes in south Texas.
I'm looking for the grandeflor variety called RocknRoll. Kind of hard to find.

Worked at a plant nursery, true rose care can be exhausting. Fungus black spot spraying, fertilizer every 2 weeks, proper drainage, pruning in Feb. Keeping old blooms off to promote new blooms. Never wet the leaves.

I wont suffer through all that unless the variety is kind of rare to get.

My mother liked climbers, she always had huge plants all over her yard with less care than regular roses.
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I went and bought 5 more at Walmart...

Then I went to Loews...
I have been buying broken bags of dirt and sand for $1 a bag...
When they rung me up they charged the full price...
Which was $26.75...

So instead of a dollar a bag the manager said it was half price...
Which would be $13.38...
However both of them were poor at math and they decided it should be $10...

LOL

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silversides  Wrote: (06-04-2018 06:01 PM)
About two weeks ago I lost $400 and have just about been sick about it...

Two pens fell from my pocket while I was mowing the lawn and I was afraid that happened to the money...

Anyways it showed up in the laundry...

So you found your $4oo! That's terrific. And you want to celebrate with roses.

I had three weeks of rain. My roses were not faring well at all.
Experimentally dug one up and found the water table was still as high as the root ball.
I went out to the dirt road which had a torrent run off of sand down it. Nice loose and easy to dig.
I went 50/50 with a bag of black cow and filled in the hole above the water line and added more around the rootball sort of volcano style and covered it in a heavy layer of pine straw. I watered in with a half strength of miracle grow. Then came back 7 days later and hit it again with full strength Miracle Grow.
10 days later new growth everywhere and it bloomed the week after that. So all told about a month to heal it.

But, as soon that water line, I one by one dug up all my roses and did the same with them to raise their soil level higher. Now, 6 weeks or so from day one, after the rains, everybody looks much better and back to blooming like crazy.

I have an emerald green spiders situation where I am torn on whether they are a help or a hindrance. If it's the right variety I think, then it will eat all the aphids and thrips and stuff. They also can kill the odd honey bee that bumbles along.

Don't replace you roses until you fix your drainage issue where they were first.

Good luck.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-09-2018 07:45 PM)
silversides  Wrote: (06-04-2018 06:01 PM)
About two weeks ago I lost $400 and have just about been sick about it...

Two pens fell from my pocket while I was mowing the lawn and I was afraid that happened to the money...

Anyways it showed up in the laundry...

So you found your $4oo! That's terrific. And you want to celebrate with roses.

I had three weeks of rain. My roses were not faring well at all.
Experimentally dug one up and found the water table was still as high as the root ball.
I went out to the dirt road which had a torrent run off of sand down it. Nice loose and easy to dig.
I went 50/50 with a bag of black cow and filled in the hole above the water line and added more around the rootball sort of volcano style and covered it in a heavy layer of pine straw. I watered in with a half strength of miracle grow. Then came back 7 days later and hit it again with full strength Miracle Grow.
10 days later new growth everywhere and it bloomed the week after that. So all told about a month to heal it.

But, as soon that water line, I one by one dug up all my roses and did the same with them to raise their soil level higher. Now, 6 weeks or so from day one, after the rains, everybody looks much better and back to blooming like crazy.

I have an emerald green spiders situation where I am torn on whether they are a help or a hindrance. If it's the right variety I think, then it will eat all the aphids and thrips and stuff. They also can kill the odd honey bee that bumbles along.

Don't replace you roses until you fix your drainage issue where they were first.

Good luck.

One issue was my sump pump which is fixed..

I have about four plumbing problems in the house...

A few flag holders to put up...

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Post: #59
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2 more planted..

Last year there were three rose bushes out by the mailbox...

2 died over the winter...

I put four out there so there are 5 by the mailbox...

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Heavy rains today...

I fertilized what has been planted...

No other outside work today...

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