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Communist Takeover In Progress in Mexico
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Post: #16
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
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06-07-2018 07:31 PM

 



Post: #17
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Lakeofmarch  Wrote: (06-07-2018 07:19 PM)
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At least there is nothing to ruin.
You are directed to recent (as in, since 2000) enormous investments by Audi, VW, Northrop-Grumman and other aerospace companies, retailers, and Amazon, as well as millions in condo property snapped up by retirees in Puerto Vallarta, all of the money rolling around in one huge tentacled ball around Cancun and the ports, and a tremendous amount of new buildings, roads, and companies that have gone up.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1886...ince-2000/

http://www.americasquarterly.org/content...n-industry

https://ronmorgan.net/5-reasons-investor...ck-market/

I think, I hope, I pray, I plead for the love of all that is holy, that something is going to protect that dedicated money. I like to eat.

And yet, still full of Mexicans. No country full of Latinos has ever been worth a sh*t and I don't think any ever will be. Cheap labor is all you have to offer. If that wasn't true Mexico would be building stuff based off of their advances in science and technology all over the world instead of the countries who actually have said advances bulding stuff there.
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Post: #18
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Lakeofmarch  Wrote: (06-07-2018 07:24 PM)
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Bolshevism = Industrialism = Industrialist being the State

I would like if they could skip the pogroms, the deportation camps (it would suck to be stuck in the desert), the mass starvation, the subservient infighting, and the confiscation this time around, thank you. Plenty of willing fascists around if you can muster up option B.

Well, maybe we shouldn't let industrialist run the government. For them, a workers paradise is a little different then for a worker. And they don't even consider farmers as workers, with all the consequences of famine and starvation.

Maybe it was better if real communism had a trial in the Soviet empire. But, we will never know how that would have been.
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06-07-2018 07:33 PM

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Post: #19
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Why do commies always try to takeover the poor countries?
There's not much wealth or loot to redistribute.

Mexico will end up like Venezuela or Cuba, stuck in perpetual third world poverty with no chance of economic mobility for its citizens.
Communism = state enforced poverty.
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Post: #20
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
TicklePickle  Wrote: (06-07-2018 07:33 PM)
Why do commies always try to takeover the poor countries?
There's not much wealth or loot to redistribute.

Mexico will end up like Venezuela or Cuba, stuck in perpetual third world poverty with no chance of economic mobility for its citizens.
Communism = state enforced poverty.

Poverty and lower average IQ run together in individuals as well as nations. Communism and low IQ also run together at least in the people who actually believe that sh*t can work on a large scale.
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Lakeofmarch
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Post: #21
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Ah, yes, the old Latins ruined it adage. Very popular. Bear with me for a moment. If I may say so, btw, the reason commies try to take over poor countries is that their patrons, the Rockefellers, have rich ones just like they want them, and all these revolutions are for their control.

https://runesoup.com/2017/12/the-syndica...ogy-redux/

Point 1. Geography. You can't have river-powered industries, which kick-started the Industrial Revolution, because surprise, there are no rivers. It's all tall mountains and then coastal plains, and communication is also difficult. When you factor in all the problems, unlike y'all with your marvelous, marvelous Mississippi, it's a series of isolated valleys, and wherever you get your sword to win, you can be chief. Peter Zeihan describes it well in his chapter on the subject in "The Accidental Superpower", he calls it the most wretched knot of mountains after Afghanistan.

Point 2. Y'all. When there have been opportunities for advancement, in anything, the English or the Americans have always stopped the ball cold. Pirates, Trafalgar, Ambassador Poinsett, the theft of Texas, the invasion in 1848, sponsoring Juarez in 1867 against an European prince, the 1911 revolution that started in Piedras Negras, and then invading Veracruz in 1914, installing a puppet government with the Constitution of 1917, and CIA handling of everything. The US embassy and the ruling party even share a newspaper, and I was employed by it. So if it was hard to get up, it is more so when the schoolyard bully hits you with a brick if your head is ever above the water.

Point 3. Financial history and world conditions. After WWII, the U.S. set up the Marshall Plan to help Europe rebuild after the war. Mexico got 0. During the 1960s, a lot of industrial capacity was built up, we were rivaling Japan for production of electronics, things were looking good. Cue a Bureau-recruited president and Nixon going to China, plus the whole Third World Debt manufactured crisis you may have heard of, leading to mass inflation, corporate flight, and labor union control of the territory. Everything goes to the dollar every time there's a stiff breeze, inflation in the 80s was about 10,000 % (they had to knock three zeros off the money), then NAFTA, which makes us dependent again on international trade. Just when the carrot was in sight, Mr. T withdraws it with tariffs and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Now, I'm not bitter. I'll become a Trump supporter if he lets the country be, and helps U.S. retirees and manufacturers make the most of local opportunities. But wouldn't you be kind of wary?

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and all will end in PAIN before the First True Man
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06-07-2018 09:03 PM

 



Post: #22
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Yes, he is a leftist
but you are exaggerating
AMLO was CDMX mayor in the past an NOTHING happened
He did the same thing as the rightists, more or less. with more social policy
the speech is different
BUT the way of gov will be the same
He is not stupid
do not panic
Compare Mexico with Venezuela is a mistake and far from the truth
Venezuela was a Military coup
AMLO is not a military
Anyway.....it will be changes if he wins...A little disturbing
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Post: #23
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
BTW
AMLO offered every 2 years see Plastering mandate if the people disapprove of his management ....
we'll see if he fulfills this ....
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06-07-2018 09:46 PM

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Post: #24
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
I don't think Lopez Obrador is a communist. When he was in the Mayor's office he worked with Pri-istas, Panistas, etc.

If he's elected, he'll probably be more like Vicente Fox Quesada than nutbars like Daniel Ortega or Nicolas Madura.

Those he commands move only in command,
Nothing in love. Now does he feel his title
Hang loose about him, like a giant’s robe
Upon a dwarfish thief.

Macbeth, act V scene II
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Lakeofmarch
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Post: #25
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Aw, goddarnit, he's gone and cut himself a deal with the ruling party already.

[Image: AMLO-y-PENA-MANO2.jpg]

It's probably the fairly secret news story I was picking up on yesterday. He started in the ranks in the 80s, then realized he wasn't in the line of succession for big stuff and left the party, rallied for years, spouted every kind of lie, whatever would get him one more vote, and on, and on, and after 30 years he finally got what he wanted and goes back into the ranks. This, boys and girls, is the reason government in Mexico is merely a shadow game, and so, so toothy. The decent, intelligent candidate is going do do well to either win and invest in real goons, or high-tail it out of the country.

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The received wisdom is that Mexico will never change. That is hopelessly corrupt, from top to bottom. That it is useless to resist—to care, to hope for a happier future. But there are heroes out there who refuse to go along. On this episode of “Parts Unknown,” we meet a few of them. People who are standing up against overwhelming odds, demanding accountability, demanding change—at great, even horrifying personal cost.

This show is for them.
-Anthony Bourdain-

https://explorepartsunknown.com/mexico/b...es-mexico/

To rule today is to know the end is near,
and all will end in PAIN before the First True Man
-Chilam Balam-
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https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2011/05/a...k-and.html
Son Calenda,Grupo Juarez
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06-08-2018 08:37 PM

 



Post: #26
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Communism from Lenin and Stalin is not leftist.

It is rightist.

It is rightist running government like industry loving, people exploiting, rightist.
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Lakeofmarch
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06-08-2018 08:41 PM

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Post: #27
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Communism with Mexican characteristics is the exact party mentioned above. They started with a revolution that closed in 1917, yeah, exact same year. Then a bit of dictatorial struggles, some murders, and by 1929 they set up the PNR and hounded the opposition candidate, a valuable man named José Vasconcelos, out of the country on fear of his life. Cárdenas, during the 30s, did all the hard socialist stuff like land redistribution and funding of public education throughout the land but toned down the threats to, you know, kill the bourgeoisie and destroy religion. And ever since, they turn to wherever the political winds of the decade go, keeping to no ideology except to steal themselves filthy rich and bow to the orders of the Great White Father in Washington. Even if he kicks them. Actually, especially then.

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To rule today is to know the end is near,
and all will end in PAIN before the First True Man
-Chilam Balam-
[Image: Fig4.jpg]
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2011/05/a...k-and.html
Son Calenda,Grupo Juarez
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Post: #28
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-07-2018 07:22 PM)
Bolshevism = Industrialism = Industrialist being the State

Lenin was a piece of sh*t. Marx was right that communism comes from socialism, which needs to be both based of and in reaction to an established liberal bougie society. Attempting socialism in feudal countries like Russia and China just resulted in countries that devolved back into liberalism after decades of stacking bodies like plywood.


The USSR was just overly lionized state capitalism.
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Post: #29
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-08-2018 08:37 PM)
Communism from Lenin and Stalin is not leftist.

It is rightist.

It is rightist running government like industry loving, people exploiting, rightist.

Lenin wrote a book called "Left Wing Communism: an infantile disorder" which argued that the workers running themselves now democracy was some childish fantasy.
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Post: #30
RE: Communist Takeover imminent in Mexico
Lakeofmarch  Wrote: (06-07-2018 04:15 PM)
where he profited handsomely from human trafficking and obstruction of justice. You would not have expected a Mayan sacrificing satanic king to take the throne in the land my fathers conquered, but there you have it folks: End Times Are On.

Bombastic much?

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