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forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Natura Naturans
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
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After a lot of meditation I have broken through some of the amnesia humans have. When we are born we forget almost everything about what we were before birth and all the answers lie buried in the sub conscious. Meditation and hypnosis can reveal much, past lives, the purpose of your life, why you chose to be who you are in this life. I recommend the OP try regression hypnosis since I doubt he has the stamina for meditation. When you find out WHY you chose to come here in this body your life changes, you quit blaming others and fate for dealing you a losing hand. When you know you CHOSE this life you realize it's ALL up to you what you do here, how you live is all under your control, not blind fate. If the OP wants to read books by regression hypnotists he should start with Michael Newton, "Journey of Souls".

“The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free.” --Baruch Spinoza
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:07 AM)
After a lot of meditation I have broken through some of the amnesia humans have. When we are born we forget almost everything about what we were before birth and all the answers lie buried in the sub conscious. Meditation and hypnosis can reveal much, past lives, the purpose of your life, why you chose to be who you are in this life. I recommend the OP try regression hypnosis since I doubt he has the stamina for meditation. When you find out WHY you chose to come here in this body your life changes, you quit blaming others and fate for dealing you a losing hand. When you know you CHOSE this life you realize it's ALL up to you what you do here, how you live is all under your control, not blind fate. If the OP wants to read books by regression hypnotists he should start with Michael Newton, "Journey of Souls".

This is false disinformation design to perpetuate the status quo and blame the innocent victim in this matrix entrapment. I did not CHOSE this life at all and this is the worse kind of evil psychopathy. The above poster is a psychopathic demon. I absolutely choose to manifest good but it never occurred and I have only had bad -- besides no one could get this bad of a life even if they tried. The above poster makes no sense and is an evil person with no empathy and posting disinformation to perpetuate this archon entrapment.

What im talking about is worse than the death of my entire family, yet he wouldnt attack me if i posted my family died. My father committed suicide when i was 16 and my grandparents died of cancers when i was 13 and 17. That was my immediate family I lived with. I did not live with my mother who was mentally ill and on disability for half her life and died of a drug overdose accident/possible-suicide at age 58.

my endogenous dysphoria, abuse by psychopaths and psychological warfare and forced isolation is far worse, far more damaging and far more suffering overall than the death of my whole family as a minor and mother's death. Its worse to have neurochemical dysphoria and to be forced alone despite using over 30 social sites and going to meetupgroups and out alone in the past when possible. When i was able to go out in the past, it was only with taking 8 tramadol tablets and I would cry and suffer on my way home, so not to much better than forced in bed without a working-drug. The only drugs that ever helped were opioids which are banned and i cannot get, as they are not allowed in psychiatry. MAOIs failed as did all others.

yet if i posted that my entire family died no one would post against me and give one stars -- but they do for things that are WORSE than the death of my entire family and in spite of my best honest efforts that i did not bring on my self at all. Thats how ignorant and psychopathic the autistic and controlled population / possible-organic-portal population is.

I grew up with no abuse as a child whatsoever. But. . . Suppose hypothetically i was beating and molested as a child 100 times over years, hypothetically -- I would then grow up to be far better of than I am as a person with genetic depression & anxiety and forced alone against my will. Victims of child abuse grow up to hold jobs, laugh with friends, have pleasures in life and do relatively well but with some psychological issues. By comparison i am in torment all of the time and cannot function at all. So The government denying me to have anything i want to relieve suffering and increase function is worse than child abuse in the regard of the end results being worse.

Yet people react strongly against child abusers but no reaction or very weak reaction against authoritarian that eliminates health-freedom and issues that cause forced isolation against one's will. That again is due to mass programming, ignorance and psychopathy among this Earth-Population.
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If what Natura Naturans posted above was true, i woudl ABSOLUTELY have a much different and much better life. But it is not true. Do not believe him when he is saying i am trying to play victim and i did not manifest right with my choices and intent - the truth is i did everything in my honest efforts of what Natura Naturan posted and still had all bad in my life since birth

more proof that what Natura Naturans posted is false is that there would not be people born with severe endogenous neurochemical depression who had all bad in their life with SEVERE torture -- and yet others with milder suffering with such a wide range

use your logic and look at that and you can see what Natura Naturans posted is disinformation that doesnt make sense -- its also very brutal and evil.

it doesnt even make any sense in regard to the starving people in africa and other things let alone what i said

Please use your logic, and heart and know this is evil disinfo that Natura Naturans posted and its among the worse
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Synosia  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:22 AM)
If what Natura Naturans posted above was true, i woudl ABSOLUTELY have a much different and much better life. But it is not true. Do not believe him when he is saying i am trying to play victim and i did not manifest right with my choices and intent - the truth is i did everything in my honest efforts of what Natura Naturan posted and still had all bad in my life since birth

more proof that what Natura Naturans posted is false is that there would not be people born with severe endogenous neurochemical depression who had all bad in their life with SEVERE torture -- and yet others with milder suffering with such a wide range

use your logic and look at that and you can see what Natura Naturans posted is disinformation that doesnt make sense -- its also very brutal and evil.

it doesnt even make any sense in regard to the starving people in africa and other things let alone what i said

Please use your logic, and heart and know this is evil disinfo that Natura Naturans posted and its among the worse

It's New Age stuff. I got heavily into that myself, for a good 15 solid years.

Did NOTHING for me in the end, and in fact was damaging.

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Natura Naturans post is what ive seen in many places and knew it would pop up here

its like the flat earth stuff and other forms of demoralization but this is one of the most wicked ones as it denouces all my efforts, honest efforts and positive maniftestation work that failed -- as saying im lying

essentially Natura Naturans is a cold hearted bastard accusing me of lying that i did not use positive intent, choice and will and choose suffering that is worse than the death of my entire family

hes also saying the same of people who starve to death without enough even to eat

dont buy this stuff or flat earth stuff or false dichotomy partisan politices or the trump cult

all that stuff is evil disinfo to demoralize -- yet stuff like false flag operations are true and real -- its hard for people to filter out whats real and what is evil matrix disinfo

Dont believe for a minute Natura Naturans evil disinformation -- if you are a person real and with a heart and did your honest efforts, dont let Natura Naturans's nonsense bother you, hes trying to insult your integrity as a person of good will intention and effort

I want others reading this thread to know this so you are not fooled by Natura Naturans darkness and evil

If Natura Naturans posted a reply while i was writing mine, I would remind him this is my third reply and to scroll up as it might cause him to miss this and the middle reply i made, if he only read the first and was writing
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
House of M  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:26 AM)
It's New Age stuff. I got heavily into that myself, for a good 15 solid years.

Did NOTHING for me in the end, and in fact was damaging.

Thank you for posting this -- its also insulting and calling people a liar about their honest positive thoughts, heart, Love and intent. More above
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I've had some REALLY REALLY profound personal experience and revelations, and have lived in an almost constant state of the unified mind, with non stop synchronicity. Although I paid a heavy price for it, I did achieve what I was after. It was mind blowing at first, but you know what? It makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in your life. Nothing changes, nothing at ALL. It's just a new way of perceiving.

If you want that you may eventually get there, but what I'm saying is that.. it's not really a worthwhile pursuit. And once you go "full circle" you're back where you started.

Is the trip worthwhile? Right now I have to say no. Maybe I'll think differently on my deathbed, it's been fun, but I don't pursue that stuff anymore. It did cure my depression though. Nothing bothers me anymore, NOTHING is worth stressing about. I'm able to relax deeply at the drop of a hat, anywhere anytime.

But searching for "meaning" in life.. it's a logical fallacy to begin with. People don't have a "purpose" any more than any other living thing has a purpose.. like a tree. We just ARE. I live in the present now. I guess that's worthwhile. Just try to get there, just live in the present moment. That will terminate any anxiety that you feel about life.

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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
House of M  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:34 AM)
I've had some REALLY REALLY profound personal experience and revelations, and have lived in an almost constant state of the unified mind, with non stop synchronicity. Although I paid a heavy price for it, I did achieve what I was after. It was mind blowing at first, but you know what? It makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in your life. Nothing changes, nothing at ALL. It's just a new way of perceiving.

If you want that you may eventually get there, but what I'm saying is that.. it's not really a worthwhile pursuit. And once you go "full circle" you're back where you started.

Is the trip worthwhile? Right now I have to say no. Maybe I'll think differently on my deathbed, it's been fun, but I don't pursue that stuff anymore. It did cure my depression though. Nothing bothers me anymore, NOTHING is worth stressing about. I'm able to relax deeply at the drop of a hat, anywhere anytime.

But searching for "meaning" in life.. it's a logical fallacy to begin with. People don't have a "purpose" any more than any other living thing has a purpose.. like a tree. We just ARE. I live in the present now. I guess that's worthwhile. Just try to get there, just live in the present moment. That will terminate any anxiety that you feel about life.

That's exactly what "new agey" stuff is meant to lead to.

For everything else, it's a case of, it's only worth persuing if it solves a problem. If the problem doesn't exist, there's nothing to pursue.

Rather like psychiatric analysis. It's only needed if there's a problem to unravel or destructive ingrained habits to change.
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
House of M  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:34 AM)
I've had some REALLY REALLY profound personal experience and revelations, and have lived in an almost constant state of the unified mind, with non stop synchronicity. Although I paid a heavy price for it, I did achieve what I was after. It was mind blowing at first, but you know what? It makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in your life. Nothing changes, nothing at ALL. It's just a new way of perceiving.

If you want that you may eventually get there, but what I'm saying is that.. it's not really a worthwhile pursuit. And once you go "full circle" you're back where you started.

Is the trip worthwhile? Right now I have to say no. Maybe I'll think differently on my deathbed, it's been fun, but I don't pursue that stuff anymore. It did cure my depression though. Nothing bothers me anymore, NOTHING is worth stressing about. I'm able to relax deeply at the drop of a hat, anywhere anytime.

But searching for "meaning" in life.. it's a logical fallacy to begin with. People don't have a "purpose" any more than any other living thing has a purpose.. like a tree. We just ARE. I live in the present now. I guess that's worthwhile. Just try to get there, just live in the present moment. That will terminate any anxiety that you feel about life.

One of the best books I ever read was called "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff- And it's ALL Small Stuff".

And I agree with you. Just live in the NOW. Day, by day, by day. Each day has it's own rewards just as it has it's own setbacks. The attitude you carry in to each day is how it affects you.

Know who you are. Know what you love. Live it that way to the best of your ability.
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
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House of M  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:34 AM)
I've had some REALLY REALLY profound personal experience and revelations, and have lived in an almost constant state of the unified mind, with non stop synchronicity. Although I paid a heavy price for it, I did achieve what I was after. It was mind blowing at first, but you know what? It makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in your life. Nothing changes, nothing at ALL. It's just a new way of perceiving.

If you want that you may eventually get there, but what I'm saying is that.. it's not really a worthwhile pursuit. And once you go "full circle" you're back where you started.

Is the trip worthwhile? Right now I have to say no. Maybe I'll think differently on my deathbed, it's been fun, but I don't pursue that stuff anymore. It did cure my depression though. Nothing bothers me anymore, NOTHING is worth stressing about. I'm able to relax deeply at the drop of a hat, anywhere anytime.

But searching for "meaning" in life.. it's a logical fallacy to begin with. People don't have a "purpose" any more than any other living thing has a purpose.. like a tree. We just ARE. I live in the present now. I guess that's worthwhile. Just try to get there, just live in the present moment. That will terminate any anxiety that you feel about life.

That's exactly what "new agey" stuff is meant to lead to.

For everything else, it's a case of, it's only worth persuing if it solves a problem. If the problem doesn't exist, there's nothing to pursue.

Rather like psychiatric analysis. It's only needed if there's a problem to unravel or destructive ingrained habits to change.

I think you are right, and perhaps I did in fact internalize the lessons. I'm not bashing all of it, there were a lot of lessons of value.

I invested so deeply in spiritual attainment and enlightenment that it took over my life. This is something you're supposed to do when you get older, but I put the cart before the horse.

I would be a lot better off now financially had I invested that time and energy into building my career, but I was so driven that I had to get to the bottom of my spiritual longings. So yes, there was an internal shift in my perceptions. It's a really long and difficult road to follow. Not that many really have the drive and fortitude to see it through.

When I realized that NOTHING was going to change in my external life (remember that video The Secret - TOTAL CRAP!) I became very discouraged. I thought that the outer would come to reflect the inner, and that opportunities would arise and that by following "the pollen path" I would discover my True Purpose in life. It never happened, and it never will. That's the letdown.

Finally, THIS is what helped me the most. Absurdity. The Search for Meaning is what actually creates the suffering.. and the longing. I really recommend this viewing.

Now life is just funny to me!! That's why I'm overflowing with ironic satire! Anyway, give it a try Synosia.




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I didn't choose the best video to introduce absurdity. This one is shorter, and more concise. Apologies!




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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
House of M  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:55 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:45 AM)
That's exactly what "new agey" stuff is meant to lead to.

For everything else, it's a case of, it's only worth persuing if it solves a problem. If the problem doesn't exist, there's nothing to pursue.

Rather like psychiatric analysis. It's only needed if there's a problem to unravel or destructive ingrained habits to change.

I think you are right, and perhaps I did in fact internalize the lessons. I'm not bashing all of it, there were a lot of lessons of value.

I invested so deeply in spiritual attainment and enlightenment that it took over my life. This is something you're supposed to do when you get older, but I put the cart before the horse.

I would be a lot better off now financially had I invested that time and energy into building my career, but I was so driven that I had to get to the bottom of my spiritual longings. So yes, there was an internal shift in my perceptions. It's a really long and difficult road to follow. Not that many really have the drive and fortitude to see it through.

When I realized that NOTHING was going to change in my external life (remember that video The Secret - TOTAL CRAP!) I became very discouraged. I thought that the outer would come to reflect the inner, and that opportunities would arise and that by following "the pollen path" I would discover my True Purpose in life. It never happened, and it never will. That's the letdown.

Finally, THIS is what helped me the most. Absurdity. The Search for Meaning is what actually creates the suffering.. and the longing. I really recommend this viewing.

Now life is just funny to me!! That's why I'm overflowing with ironic satire! Anyway, give it a try Synosia.




I've book marked the video to watch later. It's 3am on my side of the pond and my beds calling.

One of the things I took on board early in my own "new agey" explorations was, "take what resonates and leave the rest, because it was put there for another". That thought helped me to keep perspectve and ignore any dogma.

As one who believes in reincarnation, I've watched jaws drop when I've stated, perhaps not everyone is meant to be on a spiritual journey in this lifetime. Some are here to simply experience particular things that are not related to exploring spirituality.
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
House of M  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:55 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:45 AM)
That's exactly what "new agey" stuff is meant to lead to.

For everything else, it's a case of, it's only worth persuing if it solves a problem. If the problem doesn't exist, there's nothing to pursue.

Rather like psychiatric analysis. It's only needed if there's a problem to unravel or destructive ingrained habits to change.

I think you are right, and perhaps I did in fact internalize the lessons. I'm not bashing all of it, there were a lot of lessons of value.

I invested so deeply in spiritual attainment and enlightenment that it took over my life. This is something you're supposed to do when you get older, but I put the cart before the horse.

I would be a lot better off now financially had I invested that time and energy into building my career, but I was so driven that I had to get to the bottom of my spiritual longings. So yes, there was an internal shift in my perceptions. It's a really long and difficult road to follow. Not that many really have the drive and fortitude to see it through.

When I realized that NOTHING was going to change in my external life (remember that video The Secret - TOTAL CRAP!) I became very discouraged. I thought that the outer would come to reflect the inner, and that opportunities would arise and that by following "the pollen path" I would discover my True Purpose in life. It never happened, and it never will. That's the letdown.

Finally, THIS is what helped me the most. Absurdity. The Search for Meaning is what actually creates the suffering.. and the longing. I really recommend this viewing.

Now life is just funny to me!! That's why I'm overflowing with ironic satire! Anyway, give it a try Synosia.



People tend to confuse life and existence.
They are really separate things.
Life ends.
Existence does not.
Presuming that there is more existence after life ends.
Spiritual attainment, enlightenment, and other such factors relate much more to existence than life.
Imprinting the seed of consciousness with the experiences of life in order to evolve it through existence.
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This world is so beautiful!
wtf is wrong with you people. Wizard1
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