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forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Synosia
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
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Living in the present moment feels bad it doesn't matter. I just feel a bad dysphoric feeling all of the time no matter how I think thoughts don't matter. Besides people who have good in their life could just be claiming that so-called living in the present moment is a good thing but it's only good because they also have good in their life.

So that's two separate points. 1 is that neurochemistry does not care about your philosophy about the present moment if you have dysphoria you have dysphoria it's not thought related

2 is that if a person was 100% isolated with no good in their life they might say the present moment thing doesn't do anything and it only works if they have good in their life. I'm 100% isolated and cannot use my voice even because I have literally no person to talk to and live alone and this is against my will and countless efforts over many years. Perhaps if another person experience the same thing they might not say that living in the present moment helps. The only way I use my voice is to talk into the microphone for it to type for me because it feels hard to type and because it keeps my voice and practice as I have no one to talk to is I am 100% in solitary confinement against my will. So the present moment feels bad no matter what. Also I have this bad dysphoric feeling in my head area that's totally neurochemical I started having random panic attacks as a 10 year old child for no reason. It's where I felt myself leaving my body and dying and had a racing heart and pure panic. There was no event no abuse in a reason it was 100% chemical
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Post: #32
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
∞⚡∞  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:20 AM)
This world is so beautiful!
wtf is wrong with you people. Wizard1

dysphoria and anhedonia
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Endogenous depression and anxiety is similar to someone else having drug withdrawal syndrome except you're born with it and you feel it all of the time. Good analogy. You can imagine if someone was in a bad drug withdrawal a philosophy about the present moment wouldn't matter and they would feel bad no matter what and thoughts don't matter.

Also if a person is very social by Nature even the opposite end of the spectrum of autism more social than average. And isolated completely 100% at the same time then no matter what philosophies they have they suffer because they lack the basic human need of companionship against their will. Like I said I can't even use my voice because I have no one to talk to I have to keep it practiced and talk to myself
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Post: #34
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
∞⚡∞  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:20 AM)
This world is so beautiful!
wtf is wrong with you people. Wizard1
The OP does not like the world, does not find any beauty in it.
That is sad for them, but there you go.
All they can really do is pursue various forms of escapism until they pass on.
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Post: #35
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Maybe all you need is a hug.
We are social creatures.
We need that contact to release the required chemicals to fully function in accordance with our evolutionary blueprint.


Get a root.
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Post: #36
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
If you think that becoming a hermit will give you super powers.
You are sorely mistaken.

Most of those Masters had already attained enlightenment before retreating. b

Oxytocin, serotonin and dopamine :)
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Post: #37
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Synosia  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:24 AM)
Living in the present moment feels bad it doesn't matter. I just feel a bad dysphoric feeling all of the time no matter how I think thoughts don't matter. Besides people who have good in their life could just be claiming that so-called living in the present moment is a good thing but it's only good because they also have good in their life.

So that's two separate points. 1 is that neurochemistry does not care about your philosophy about the present moment if you have dysphoria you have dysphoria it's not thought related

2 is that if a person was 100% isolated with no good in their life they might say the present moment thing doesn't do anything and it only works if they have good in their life. I'm 100% isolated and cannot use my voice even because I have literally no person to talk to and live alone and this is against my will and countless efforts over many years. Perhaps if another person experience the same thing they might not say that living in the present moment helps. The only way I use my voice is to talk into the microphone for it to type for me because it feels hard to type and because it keeps my voice and practice as I have no one to talk to is I am 100% in solitary confinement against my will. So the present moment feels bad no matter what. Also I have this bad dysphoric feeling in my head area that's totally neurochemical I started having random panic attacks as a 10 year old child for no reason. It's where I felt myself leaving my body and dying and had a racing heart and pure panic. There was no event no abuse in a reason it was 100% chemical

Thinking impacts one's mood, which impacts the body chemistry in a very real way. If living in the present is something you haven't tried yet, it may be worth trying.

I've had dysphoria and anhedonia, though I think in much milder forms than you seem to describe. It's taken me over 5 decades to realise that much of my issues come from nutrient deficiences, caused by the impact on my body of my mental state and negative thoughts.

As life happens, we develop the behavioral cycles that help us to survive. Some of those cycles can have a strong enough impact on the body chemistry which can affect and amplify whatever habits of thinking one has. That's true of both positive and negative thinking. When our situation changes, we're left with the habits that once helped us to survive, but are no longer helpful in the changed circumstances.

In tough circumstances, the habit of 'living in the moment', is pretty much impossible to develop, but it seems to be the healthiest way to live.

I've no idea if the above is the case with you, but learning to live in the moment must be worth trying?
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
what i meant is a mixture of good and bad in their life instead of all bad

like having some friends or a romance or a spouse or earned income

a mixture of good and bad instead of all bad

its people who have the mixture who say things like living in the present moment is good

if its not the mix of good and bad, and they have no good in their life -- it doesnt work

also the reply about OP not finding beauty in life has nothing to do with the points im making and what im posting and is a disinformation attack -- that person is literally psychopathic without empathy and autistic

its very autistic to make a post like "OP doesnt find beauty in life, that sad" compared to what im posting about and the points im making that i was born with dysphoria nad feel a neurochemical dysphoria since a small child, with not able to get out of bed a lot -- and with being 100% isolated

do you see how a post like "OP doesnt find beautyi in life thats sad" compared up against what im actually saying is actually autistic and psychopathic,.... see how that's autistic? actually look at that hostile quote and then actually look at my topic and what im talking about and put the two together -- see how thats autistic and also hostile?
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Post: #39
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
What if i posted that my entire family died then someone replied "OP Doesnt find beauty in life, thats sad for him" and another posted "The world is beautiful, whats wrong with you people"

Or I posted that I got into a car accident and got the same quotes

do you see how retarded, hostile, psychopathic and autistic that is with this analogy? its the same thing thats completely autistic

see how retarded the population is? with zombie aphorisms
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
You feel like an energy vampire. Rofl
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Post: #41
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
That God shaped hole is rather annoying isn't it.

At least you know the world has nothing to offer you of value


Seek within the universe and let go of the attachment to pain

Easier said than done but

Truth guide you home

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Post: #42
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
boo hoo hooo
you hate gerd

you probably have 10000x as much as an african
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Post: #43
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:46 AM)
You feel like an energy vampire. Rofl

This has nothing to do with energy vapirism and im not doing anything to be an energy vampire -- you just did so ironically by posting this

i dont know you and have nothing to do with you yet you attacked me to try to make me feel even worse with this insult

it is YOU who is the energy vampire, ironically, and a sociopath trolling

I dont know you and have nothing to do with you -- i never attacked you in any post you made, why attack me?

Youre autistic and psychopathic... why dont you go suffer from your own evil reversed back to you

I hereby invoke that any attack on me of hostility reflects back to the attack and they suffer from their own evil
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RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Synosia  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:46 AM)
What if i posted my entire family died then someone replied "OP Doesnt find beauty in life, thats sad for him" and another posted "The world is beautiful, whats wrong with you people"

do you see how retarded and autistic that is with this analogy? its the same thing

My old mans entire family died in a vehicle collision.
He chooses to be happy and see the beauty in life regardless.
Instead of dwelling on what was or what could be.
He dwells upon what is.
Which in reality, Is beautiful.

Whatever.
'Do what you want.
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Post: #45
RE: forced in undesirable world as physical human that suffers, ages and dies
Synosia  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:44 AM)
what i meant is a mixture of good and bad in their life instead of all bad

like having some friends or a romance or a spouse or earned income

a mixture of good and bad instead of all bad

its people who have the mixture who say things like living in the present moment is good

if its not the mix of good and bad, and they have no good in their life -- it doesnt work

also the reply about OP not finding beauty in life has nothing to do with the points im making and what im posting and is a disinformation attack -- that person is literally psychopathic without empathy and autistic

its very autistic to make a post like "OP doesnt find beauty in life, that sad" compared to what im posting about and the points im making that i was born with dysphoria nad feel a neurochemical dysphoria since a small child, with not able to get out of bed a lot -- and with being 100% isolated

do you see how a post like "OP doesnt find beautyi in life thats sad" compared up against what im actually saying is actually autistic and psychopathic,.... see how that's autistic? actually look at that hostile quote and then actually look at my topic and what im talking about and put the two together -- see how thats autistic and also hostile?
What, you want sympathy?
Too bad.
It is your life, you figure out how to deal with it.
There is nothing that anyone can suggest that will help you, that you have not already dismissed.
Keep taking my words and thoughts out of context and I will show you hostile.
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