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Trumps Great Deal Making Capabilities On Display
Michael-AK
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:13 PM)
I have been reading over this so called DEAL.

It's Kind of a nothing Burger Deal to agree to make another deal in the future.

So I guess it's a start of sorts.

Which could be a good strategy, if you really want to work on building a more positive relationship.

Rather than giving a list of unreasonable demands and saying you now have to sign all of this, or else!

Trump got the nothing burger and Kim got more than he could have ever expected for this.

The White House is mischaracterizing the 'deal'. It is neither historic nor comprehensive. It is only 'great' from North Koreas perspective.


Trumps deal making skillz are seriously poor.

Damrod:

"If you actually pursued liberty, free speech, free will and free thought...you would know which side of the false political paradigm you should be publicly supporting...even if it is just for show......"
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Post: #17
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Michael-AK  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:23 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:34 PM)
Which could be a good strategy, if you really want to work on building a more positive relationship.

Rather than giving a list of unreasonable demands and saying you now have to sign all of this, or else!

Trump got the nothing burger and Kim got more than he could have ever expected for this.

The White House is mischaracterizing the 'deal'. It is neither historic nor comprehensive. It is only 'great' from North Koreas perspective.


Trumps deal making skillz are seriously poor.

In your own opinion.
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RE: Trumps Great Deal Making Capabilities On Display
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:43 PM)
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Quote:So funny to watch the Fake News, especially NBC and CNN. They are fighting hard to downplay the deal with North Korea. 500 days ago they would have “begged” for this deal-looked like war would break out. Our Country’s biggest enemy is the Fake News so easily promulgated by fools!

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RE: Trumps Great Deal Making Capabilities On Display
Michael-AK  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:23 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:34 PM)
Which could be a good strategy, if you really want to work on building a more positive relationship.

Rather than giving a list of unreasonable demands and saying you now have to sign all of this, or else!

Trump got the nothing burger and Kim got more than he could have ever expected for this.

The White House is mischaracterizing the 'deal'. It is neither historic nor comprehensive. It is only 'great' from North Koreas perspective.


Trumps deal making skillz are seriously poor.

LOL he knows exactly what he is doing.

I wouldn't kid yourself

this deal was forged in the Kremlin and facilitated by China..
was probably on the drawing board long before Trump made the nomination for president
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Post: #20
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Surprise, surprise! Ending the joint military exercises with SK was Putin's idea.

Who is Trump really working for, again?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/talking-to-...1516303402

Around the same time, Mr. Trump had an idea about how to counter the nuclear threat posed by North Korea, which he got after speaking to Russian President Vladimir Putin : If the U.S. stopped joint military exercises with the South Koreans, it could help moderate Kim Jong Un’s behavior. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis used an approach that aides say can work: “He says, ‘Your instincts are absolutely correct,’ and then gets him [the president] to do the exact opposite of what his instincts say,” said one person close to the White House. Mr. Trump dropped the idea, although he has ordered aides to give the exercises a low profile, eliminating press releases and briefings about them.
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Post: #21
RE: Trumps Great Deal Making Capabilities On Display
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:40 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:23 PM)
Trump got the nothing burger and Kim got more than he could have ever expected for this.

The White House is mischaracterizing the 'deal'. It is neither historic nor comprehensive. It is only 'great' from North Koreas perspective.


Trumps deal making skillz are seriously poor.

LOL he knows exactly what he is doing.

I wouldn't kid yourself

this deal was forged in the Kremlin and facilitated by China..
was probably on the drawing board long before Trump made the nomination for president

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Post: #22
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:40 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:23 PM)
Trump got the nothing burger and Kim got more than he could have ever expected for this.

The White House is mischaracterizing the 'deal'. It is neither historic nor comprehensive. It is only 'great' from North Koreas perspective.


Trumps deal making skillz are seriously poor.

LOL he knows exactly what he is doing.

I wouldn't kid yourself

this deal was forged in the Kremlin and facilitated by China..
was probably on the drawing board long before Trump made the nomination for president


DERP narrative.
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Post: #23
RE: Trumps Great Deal Making Capabilities On Display
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:48 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-13-2018 05:40 PM)
LOL he knows exactly what he is doing.

I wouldn't kid yourself

this deal was forged in the Kremlin and facilitated by China..
was probably on the drawing board long before Trump made the nomination for president


I am DERP for ignoring all the facts and evidence in favor of believing my cult leader's lies.

FIFY
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Post: #24
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This piece will not lend itself well to those who scream "both sides!" whenever their tribe is attacked. This wasn't bad faith on Obama's part. Burying human rights concers was fallacy, but one founded in some theory into which Obama & Co. bought hard.


Trump and Kim Jong Un callously ignored human rights in their summit — just like Obama did around the world
Trump’s actions are part of a larger and concerning trend to sideline human rights as a key element of U.S. foreign policy.


Quote:But Donald Trump is hardly the first president to de-prioritize human rights considerations in negotiations with foreign despots. That is not because, as Princeton University Professor Gary Bass uncharitably claimed, Trump “makes no effort to disguise how little he cares about human rights.” Barack Obama, too, put human rights on the backburner — not because he didn’t care about the issue but because he and his acolytes mistakenly believed that domestic liberalization would be a natural consequence of integration into the community of nations.

Prior to 1977, human rights concerns were not a central pillar of American foreign policy. Jimmy Carter’s team made it one, although that decision was not pure altruism. “I will not hide the fact that I thought there was some instrumental utility in our pursuit of human rights vis-à-vis the Soviet Union,” Carter’s national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski later said. Raising human rights issues, he added, was a tool of statecraft that isolated Moscow and catalyzed internal dissent.

Obama and his team convinced themselves that the intersecting patchwork of institutions that make up the international environment would have a moderating effect on abusive regimes. But that was hubris. Today, Trump is walking right back into the same trap — albeit with the tacit support of many of Obama’s most vocal critics. Conservatives who called Obama weak and expressed shock that he would trust vicious Cuban, Iranian or North Korean officials are now calling Trump’s summit with Kim “historic” and “world-changing.” There is even talk of a Nobel Peace Prize.

The truth is Trump, like Obama, doesn’t want human rights considerations getting in the way of a negotiated settlement to the crisis on the Korean peninsula — or a celebratory press conference. Both presidents call their deference to despots and autocrats realpolitik, but in truth it is weakness masquerading as practicality.

Donald Trump deserves condemnation for de-emphasizing human rights concerns in his meeting with Kim. His critics are right to call out his callousness. But we must also not forget that Trump’s actions are actually part of a larger and concerning modern trend to sideline human rights as a key element of U.S. foreign policy.


more: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/tr...ncna882721
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Michael-AK
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Post: #25
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Kim will ignore human rights for 'Enemies of the Revolution' no matter what. If that must end as a pre-condition for an agreement there will be none.

I do not agree with Trumps methods. But you can't demand everything or set unrealistic pre-conditions.

Damrod:

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Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (06-13-2018 03:58 PM)
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