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Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
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RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-13-2018 09:29 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (06-13-2018 09:11 PM)
Antarctic thaw quickens, trillions of tons of ice raise sea levels

"An accelerating thaw of Antarctica has pushed up world sea levels

Happens every year.

link to image: https://nsidc.org/sites/nsidc.org/files/...igure4.png

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/seaice.html

Both poles, opposite seasons.

chuckle

The thaw accelerates, bottoms out, then ice formation begins and accelerates and tops out.

I've never liked comparing a single year with an average.
Its dishonest.
Also, im sure there is data better than nearly a decade old.
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Post: #62
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-13-2018 09:29 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (06-13-2018 09:11 PM)
Antarctic thaw quickens, trillions of tons of ice raise sea levels

"An accelerating thaw of Antarctica has pushed up world sea levels

Happens every year.

[Image: 200901_Figure4.png]

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/seaice.html

Both poles, opposite seasons.

chuckle

The thaw accelerates, bottoms out, then ice formation begins and accelerates and tops out.

No sorry Luv. read the article, this is not the yearly normal. This states it has changed significantly from 1990's.

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Post: #63
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I've lived on the Florida coast since the mid 90s
this 'sea level rise' -- is NON EXISTENT.





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Post: #64
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Post: #65
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
Danger Dan  Wrote: (06-13-2018 10:25 PM)
I've lived on the Florida coast since the mid 90s
this 'sea level rise' -- is NON EXISTENT.

Everyone agrees except the paid agents of disinformation.
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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (06-13-2018 04:55 PM)
I live by the sea,if I go by the last 40+ years of my own observations,the shoreline is exactly where it was then.

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Post: #67
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Post: #68
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Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-13-2018 11:08 PM)
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Inundated Homes, NC

Built on peers because they're below the high tide line when constructed.
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Post: #69
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
Danger Dan  Wrote: (06-13-2018 10:25 PM)
I've lived on the Florida coast since the mid 90s
this 'sea level rise' -- is NON EXISTENT.

Not according to many city councils found in Florida.

Miami is racing against time to keep up with sea-level rise

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Post: #70
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
Hamburgerwagon  Wrote: (06-13-2018 08:09 PM)
So, here is what I gather from this thread.

2 people want to try really hard to push this agenda using customized facts.

Everyone else thinks it is retarded and the most stupid thing they have ever heard.

I dont think your indoctrination techniques are working here.

chuckle
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Post: #71
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
Danger Dan  Wrote: (06-13-2018 10:25 PM)
I've lived on the Florida coast since the mid 90s
this 'sea level rise' -- is NON EXISTENT.

Rising Sea Levels Could Cost U.S. Homeowners Close to $1 Trillion
Being underwater will soon mean exactly what it says. Especially in Florida.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...1-trillion

The huge, hidden cost of protecting homeowners from the rising sea

"As sea levels rise, as much as $1.4 trillion worth of coastal property could be threatened with flooding by 2100, by one estimate. But what will it cost to protect those properties? Now comes a hint at the enormous pricetag.

According to a new study by the Virginia environmental group Wetlands Watch, flood damage in Norfolk is already on the rise, with the number of “repetitive loss” properties in the city skyrocketing from 200 in 2002 to 900 today, a 450 percent increase.

But money to protect those homes from future flooding has been hard to come by. According to the report, hundreds of homeowners are stranded on waiting lists for federal help to elevate or sell their flood-prone homes.

Because lists of “repetitive loss” properties are maintained by cities and counties, rather than federal authorities, Wetlands Watch had a hard time getting comprehensive data. But where numbers were available -- in Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, Hampton and Portsmouth – Wetlands Watch found nearly 3,000 properties awaiting funding. Local flood managers told the group it costs between $75,000 and $250,000 either to raise a home and protect it from the tides, or to acquire it so the homeowner can move out. Which means that in just five Virginia jurisdictions, the study says, it would cost more than $430 million to protect the homes that have already been damaged.

And that’s just “repetitive loss” properties, a specific category of homes insured by the National Flood Insurance Program that have sustained at least $1,000 in damage twice in a 10-year period. Many more homes are not covered by flood insurance. And many additional homes are likely to sustain damage in the future, if the seas rise, as predicted, by a meter or more on the East Coast over the next century.

“If in five cities, it’s in the neighborhood of $430 million, what is it nationally? Are we talking Iraq War-scale here?” said Skip Stiles, Wetlands Watch executive director.

Just as troubling, Stiles said, is how long it might take to help those people. Flood mitigation projects are typically undertaken with funds from the Federal Emergency Management Agency. So Wetlands Watch looked at the average annual disbursement of FEMA funds in each jurisdiction.

Given the current flow of cash, the study found, it would take 130 years to clear all the pending requests for help in Chesapeake, and 188 years in Norfolk. And in Virginia Beach, it would take 244 years to help all 561 homeowners who have so far asked for help."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...0d7e38154a

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Post: #72
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-13-2018 11:10 PM)
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-13-2018 11:08 PM)
link to image: https://i.imgur.com/riCLZi0.jpg

Inundated Homes, NC

Built on peers because they're below the high tide line when constructed.

Houses are not built below the high tide level anywhere there are building code that prevent such stupidity. The point is the beach is not as wide as it was when those home were built. When they were built you could park your car under the house, not any more. Same for the gulf coast, I was there last summer, couldn't believe the narrower difference from years ago. I guess that's good, you don't have to walk as far to get your feet wet.

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Post: #73
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-13-2018 11:14 PM)
Danger Dan  Wrote: (06-13-2018 10:25 PM)
I've lived on the Florida coast since the mid 90s
this 'sea level rise' -- is NON EXISTENT.

Not according to many city councils found in Florida.

Miami is racing against time to keep up with sea-level rise

Claiming that barrier islands and Florida flooding is caused by sea level rising is sort of delusional.

The combination of natural settling and ground water depletion driven subsidence is a much bigger problem.

The barrier islands are created by storms and dispersed by storms. Putting houses on them doesn't stop nature from doing its thing. A barrier island is a giant sand bar.

Most of the actual "sea level rise" is at the poles where it is a "don't care".
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Post: #74
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-13-2018 09:29 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (06-13-2018 09:11 PM)
Antarctic thaw quickens, trillions of tons of ice raise sea levels

"An accelerating thaw of Antarctica has pushed up world sea levels

Happens every year.

link to image: https://nsidc.org/sites/nsidc.org/files/...igure4.png

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/seaice.html

Both poles, opposite seasons.

chuckle

The thaw accelerates, bottoms out, then ice formation begins and accelerates and tops out.

No, that is sea ice. Sea ice freezes and thaws every year and has no effect on sea level because it is made from water which is already in the ocean. The risk of rising sea levels comes ( partly ) from fresh water ice which has built up on continental Antarctica ( not the Arctic ) and Greenland over thousands of years. It is the accelerating glaciers dumping billions of tonnes of fresh water into the oceans, that has been held on land for millenia that poses the risk.
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Post: #75
RE: Let’s have a worthy debate about sea level rise
I live nearly a mile above most of the USA and the rest of the world.

I will laugh as I see you all swim like rats trying to leave the Titanic.

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