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Mind Control
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RE: Mind Control
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-29-2018 06:30 PM)
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I think organizational mind control is a major technique. You get people to join an organization and they have to adopt the beliefs of that organization and can be used as cannon fodder to accomplish the real controllers of the organization's goals.

Much of the illuminati's control is through extra-governmental organizations or star chambers that use the psychological techniques to first make their member's feel special and then get them to execute the real controller's goals. Like Bilderberg.

Individuals can be controlled by giving those that betray their countries and ethnic groups awards and praising them as great humanitarians and giving them honorary degrees and the like.

The Delphi technique has been widely discussed as used in implementing agenda 21 goals. A meeting is held in a community with the organizers pretending they really want to know what the public thinks but the real goal is to promote agenda 21 and later claim everyone agreed to it.

That's traditional and has been around centuries, millennia probably.

I dispute blaming the Illuminati however.

Could be wrong, but

Quote: the name usually refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on 1 May 1776. The society's goals were to oppose superstition, obscurantism, religious influence over public life, and abuses of state power. "The order of the day," they wrote in their general statutes, "is to put an end to the machinations of the purveyors of injustice, to control them without dominating them."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

You could interpret that several ways, and Wiki is probably not the best resource, but the purveyors of groupthink mind control wanted them banned.

Soldiers are another example.

It takes a lot of trauma induced programming to turn farmers into killers:

Best of Full Metal Jacket - Boot Camp/Basic Training




Sometimes you need a thug, so I'm not judging it.

chuckle

Infiltration is a common method used by the 'elite'.
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Post: #47
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-29-2018 05:23 PM)
Every form of communication is a form of mind control.

If you read the above sentence for example, I just controlled your mind by stimulating it to consider the truth or falsehood of that statement.

Beginning in the Renaissance period, as Kings began to consolidate their power away from feudal lords, they invested heavily in propaganda efforts.

And it was effective.

Churches have always used refined forms of mind control, including dogma, ritual, and architecture.

It's not always a bad thing, people glean enjoyment from these things, and at best gain wisdom, knowledge, and social stability.

Agrarian cultures depend on stratified social cohesion in order to fulfill the primary needs of the culture: planting and harvesting crops.

But as we shifted towards CONSUMER CULTURE, these methods were re-purposed from inciting work towards inciting desire for things we don't need. (Tricking people into working FOR things they don't need.)

And the intelligence services and political campi refined them further towards their purposes.

MK projects from the CIA being one of the craziest versions.

That never ended. There were hearings, we got mad, they pretended to stop, but didn't.

Post anything you want about mind control, I'll probably focus most of my contributions on electronic methods...

So are you saying mind control an witchcraft are the same things, or witchcraft is mind control? Witches as in spells with words and intent.
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So are you saying mind control an witchcraft are the same things, or witchcraft is mind control? Witches as in spells with words and intent.

Nope.

Wasn't really delving into that area. Words do have power, and repetition has power; see the Tendril video posted earlier.

chuckle

But I wasn't really delving into witchcraft, you are welcome to but I'm focusing on social science(anthropology/sociology/psychology) and physiology and electronics.


Heterodyne

Heterodyning is a signal processing technique invented in 1901 by Canadian inventor-engineer Reginald Fessenden that creates new frequencies by combining or mixing two frequencies.[1][2][3] Heterodyning is used to shift one frequency range into another, new one, and is also involved in the processes of modulation and demodulation.[2][4] The two frequencies are combined in a nonlinear signal-processing device such as a vacuum tube, transistor, or diode, usually called a mixer.[2] In the most common application, two signals at frequencies f1 and f2 are mixed, creating two new signals, one at the sum f1 + f2 of the two frequencies, and the other at the difference f1 − f2.[3] These new frequencies are called heterodynes. Typically only one of the new frequencies is desired, and the other signal is filtered out of the output of the mixer. Heterodynes are related to the phenomenon of "beats" in acoustics.[2][5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodyne

In his book, Project Soulcatcher, Robert Duncan, A.B., S.M., M.B.A., Ph.D. claims he developed technologies for the Defense Department and intelligence agencies that use heterodyned signals to create wireless EEGs of targeted individuals to read their minds at long distances:

http://projectsoulcatcher.blogspot.com/

free ebook of another draft: The Matrix deciphered goes into specific detail of this claim:

http://www.oregonstatehospital.net/d/The...-Saint.pdf

He appeared on Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy theory "Brain Invaders" episode(at the end)





Whether his claims are true is difficult to determine, but the texting experiment where scientists discovered a NEW brainwave could be improved by turning airplane mode on and off on the phones of the test subjects.

The new brainwave may be heterodyned: brainwaves + WIFI + the fMRI field.

You could also repeat the test with a wired device for texting so neither WIFI nor cell frequencies are in the mix.

Also, regarding the "rat casino" study with flashing lights: WIFI is flashing light. You can't see it, but the body can sense it. And it may account for the odd addictive behavior in texters.

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You have to understand human evolution. Its described in Genesis remarkably accurately.

We lived in trees. But with the waxing and waning of climate our tree habitat was replaced with savannah between the tree stands and our guys evolved to live in this marginal environment.

Our next major leap is evidenced at Olduvai. Why Olduvai. Its along a major game migration route. But what we did was we spooked the big cats off their kills because we had no hope of catching a gazelle on our own. So we mastered our fear and approach the cats as they were feeding and with rocks in our hands the cats left. But we had a problem. If the cats didn't eat then we didn't eat. So we worked out a deal or symbiosis where we took some of the kill and left the rest for the cat. This was the origin of animal sacrifice. Leaving some for the gods.

I've actually seen this in vids where three bushmen approach ten cats feeding on a kill and the cats move aside and let the bushman cut off a piece even though the cats could have easily killed the three of them. Its in both of our dna now.

Our next jump was in the Kalahari about 200,000 years ago where we began to use advanced tools to exploit the harsher environment. That distinguished us from the other apes and we took over. Slowly. Moving out of Africa 50,000 years ago. Killing off Neanderthal.

So our genetic psychology is based on small groups. About 40 or 50. Then came agriculture. So the king had to take on trappings of authority to replace the legitimate authority of the small group leader who earned the authority by his genetics and behavior.
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You have to understand human evolution. Its described in Genesis remarkably accurately.

We lived in trees. But with the waxing and waning of climate our tree habitat was replaced with savannah between the tree stands and our guys evolved to live in this marginal environment.

Our next major leap is evidenced at Olduvai. Why Olduvai. Its along a major game migration route. But what we did was we spooked the big cats off their kills because we had no hope of catching a gazelle on our own. So we mastered our fear and approach the cats as they were feeding and with rocks in our hands the cats left. But we had a problem. If the cats didn't eat then we didn't eat. So we worked out a deal or symbiosis where we took some of the kill and left the rest for the cat. This was the origin of animal sacrifice. Leaving some for the gods.

I've actually seen this in vids where three bushmen approach ten cats feeding on a kill and the cats move aside and let the bushman cut off a piece even though the cats could have easily killed the three of them. Its in both of our dna now.

Our next jump was in the Kalahari about 200,000 years ago where we began to use advanced tools to exploit the harsher environment. That distinguished us from the other apes and we took over. Slowly. Moving out of Africa 50,000 years ago. Killing off Neanderthal.

So our genetic psychology is based on small groups. About 40 or 50. Then came agriculture. So the king had to take on trappings of authority to replace the legitimate authority of the small group leader who earned the authority by his genetics and behavior.

He earned it through BRUTE FORCE.

Early agrarians had a Big Man culture in most places. The biggest, toughest, or meanest(or combination) alpha was Chief.

But unlike chimp culture that works similarly, Big Man developed an oligarchy, around him which consisted of his close relatives, the best fighters, the scientific and religious leaders, and their family members.

That provided more stability because it's a gang instead of one alfa who can be easily unseated as he ages when young tough guys come to age.

In order to emphasize their status, status symbols were invented: fancy clothes, head dresses, jewelry, artworks.

Later on as populations grew and intertribal warfare grew, and cities grew, Kings arose under the same basic structure.

The nobles of Europe; Dukes, Earls, Counts, etc were usually the best fighters and were awarded their titles for military service. Originally; then it was passed down hereditarily, to maintain the status quo.

There are genetic factors and genetic memories, but we know today fighting ability isn't the best basis of leadership status. There are other abilities equally important, and a more well rounded leadership is more adaptive.

But all these things contribute to the science of mind control.

You begin with a world view everybody shares.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings

chuckle

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Operation Snow White was a criminal conspiracy by the Church of Scientology during the 1970s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

In Scientology, Operating Thetan (OT) is a spiritual state above Clear. It is defined as "knowing and willing cause over life, thought, matter, energy, space and time (MEST).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan

The state of Operating Thetan is represented by a symbol consisting of the letters OT with the T inside the O and each of the points of the T, ending at the O's circumference.

[Image: ot-symbol-admin.gif]

Hubbard mashed together many different religious rites and practices, to create his cult following. The symbolic rituals were mind control tricks...often inverting the true message... like flipping the religious dogma from the Spanish monk and Beatus Apocalypse manuscripts. The T and O map symbol is an example.

[Image: T+and+O.jpg?format=750w]

This CIA files.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/...00320037-7

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/...00150137-7

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-t...cle06.html
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Its important to study our nearest relatives. The thing to understand is that they each developed a different response for dealing with predators.

For chimps its simple. They climb trees. But climbing alone won't protect you from a cat. That's why they swing from branch to branch. Cats can't swing. Speaking of swinging its also why chimps are polyamorous swingers. There's no survival advantage to monogamy as there is with humans.

Gorillas have a very interesting strategy for dealing with predators. Its called getting big and mean. At about eleven years old the young buck gorillas are kicked out and have to roam around and attempt to challenge the tribe's reigning grayback in a series of ritualized combat involving bush shaking and karate kicks. There are several stages. Of course if the kid doesn't get the message it can devolve into actual injurious combat. But it keeps the big guy on his toes and makes sure the biggest toughest gorilla leads the pack and has his harem. Weak sisters aren't even allowed to mate. So the big guy is the equal of a cat even though he is a vegetarian.

For us humans there is a premium on cooperation. Rock throwing to ward off a predator. I've heard in indian tribes they will stop periodically and ask a brave where the last cricket chirp or bird call came from and if he can't answer he is shunned because he is not aware of his surroundings. That's why we run to a predator cry from one of our members aka a scream and chimps run away up a tree.

Baboons are kind of a mid way and really close to us. They will gang up on a predator and even run lions from kills. I've seen it in vides. Like twenty baboons ganging up for protection. But they are vulnerable because they can't swing and they sleep in trees and cats can get them.
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[Image: 7234a9cc9f223dca266648613806d01b--chocta...indian.jpg]

[Image: 697dd96ab701c2b766173734adbe16bb--spanis...police.jpg]

All have crowns and fancy clothes, separated by the Ocean Sea; neither knew each other.

Weird huh?

chuckle

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Operation Snow White was a criminal conspiracy by the Church of Scientology during the 1970s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

In Scientology, Operating Thetan (OT) is a spiritual state above Clear. It is defined as "knowing and willing cause over life, thought, matter, energy, space and time (MEST).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan

The state of Operating Thetan is represented by a symbol consisting of the letters OT with the T inside the O and each of the points of the T, ending at the O's circumference.

[Image: ot-symbol-admin.gif]

Hubbard mashed together many different religious rites and practices, to create his cult following. The symbolic rituals were mind control tricks...often inverting the true message... like flipping the religious dogma from the Spanish monk and Beatus Apocalypse manuscripts. The T and O map symbol is an example.

[Image: T+and+O.jpg?format=750w]

This CIA files.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/...00320037-7

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/...00150137-7

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-t...cle06.html

Going Clear is an excellent documentary about them.





I don't want to pick on any particular religion however.

You're more than welcome to, and that one has fertile soil for investigation regarding mind control.

But it's kind of a cartoon version of most of them.

chuckle

Well they did use electronics, so I may have to wet my feet with them some.

Lmao

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The E-meter is a device for displaying and/or recording the electrodermal activity (EDA) of a human being. The device is used frequently for auditing in Scientology[1] and divergent groups.[2][3] The efficacy and legitimacy of Scientology's use of the E-meter has been subject to extensive debate and litigation[4][5][6] and in accordance with a federal court order, the Church of Scientology now publishes disclaimers in its books and publications declaring that the E-meter "by itself does nothing" and that it is used specifically for spiritual purposes.[7]

Such devices have been used as a research tool in many human studies, and as one of several components of the Leonarde Keeler's polygraph (lie detector) system, which has been widely criticized as ineffective or pseudoscientific by legal experts and psychologists.[8][9]
[Image: Mark_VIII_E-Meter.jpg]
The Scientology Mark VIII Ultra E-meter lying in its carry case. The device's protective cover is shown standing at the back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-meter

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In defense of the Scientologists,

http://renuyoutulsa.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobC...gIc3vD_BwE

Local doctor offering the same services.

RenuYou Neurofeedback Brain Fitness Center
chuckle

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The basic thing with kings is that they had to impose a false reality as they were replacing the primitive band of 50 or so people's group leader. This is why they had crowns and scepters and all this fancy things as signs of their authority. They also created myths that they were descended from the gods and mythologies to buttress their claim to authority.

I think we also developed the urge for pilgrimage from our primitive ancestors. Just like kings develop blue blood from intermarriage we could not marry the people in our immediate group but had to look elsewhere. Even in the bible Isaac and Jacob had to venture far afield to find a wife. But these small groups would meet periodically probably based on the solstice for a big party where the mate exchange would take place. Its the origin of the house party and the romance novel. Its also why women have to test guys. Because she left her group and joined his so she had to make sure he was bonded to her and had status in his group because that was her survival lifeline.

Its interesting that in the pueblo culture Chaco Canyon seems to have been a pilgrimage site. Few people lived there permanently. There were large roads leading to the site so one can imagine when the moon reached a certain point of the solstice they would all make their way there and they actually built based on the 18.6 year lunar standstill.
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (07-02-2018 05:03 PM)
[Image: 7234a9cc9f223dca266648613806d01b--chocta...indian.jpg]

[Image: 697dd96ab701c2b766173734adbe16bb--spanis...police.jpg]

All have crowns and fancy clothes, separated by the Ocean Sea; neither knew each other.

Weird huh?

chuckle

I think the lost tribe came to America. The Caddo creation story says they emerged from a cave....probably tunnels or mines similar to Solomon's mine legends. Linking more native american folklore with archeological finds would totally derail the thread.

chuckle

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The basic thing with kings is that they had to impose a false reality as they were replacing the primitive band of 50 or so people's group leader. This is why they had crowns and scepters and all this fancy things as signs of their authority. They also created myths that they were descended from the gods and mythologies to buttress their claim to authority.

I think we also developed the urge for pilgrimage from our primitive ancestors. Just like kings develop blue blood from intermarriage we could not marry the people in our immediate group but had to look elsewhere. Even in the bible Isaac and Jacob had to venture far afield to find a wife. But these small groups would meet periodically probably based on the solstice for a big party where the mate exchange would take place. Its the origin of the house party and the romance novel. Its also why women have to test guys. Because she left her group and joined his so she had to make sure he was bonded to her and had status in his group because that was her survival lifeline.

Its interesting that in the pueblo culture Chaco Canyon seems to have been a pilgrimage site. Few people lived there permanently. There were large roads leading to the site so one can imagine when the moon reached a certain point of the solstice they would all make their way there and they actually built based on the 18.6 year lunar standstill.

Pilgrimages probably originated with hunting and gathering. You followed the herd and the weather to areas you know where the fruit and nuts and other vegetables would be ripe, in migratory patterns, and the pilgrimage sites were probably the best camping grounds originally.

That evolved with religion; for example "The Way" El Camino De Santiago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camino_de_Santiago

Was created after someone found the tomb of St James in cathedral of Santiago de Compostela.

Another great film:



Emelio should be proud, hope he keeps writing/directing.

The habit started with hunting/gathering, then evolved IMO.

Druids may have done them earlier also for cosmological reasons....

But Religion ended up supplanting food/shelter IMO.

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I think the lost tribe came to America. The Caddo creation story says they emerged from a cave....probably tunnels or mines similar to Solomon's mine legends. Linking more native american folklore with archeological finds would totally derail the thread.

chuckle

[Image: b1d655d833b31b50026a166940b6a25b--tribal...an-art.jpg]

It is kinda morphing into an anthroplogy thread.

That's okay though, you need to know human history to understand mind control.

I'm going to try and return to my main tracks though and expand into a third one:

1)Big Data and propoganda
2)Big Data and electronic weapons
3)Human augmentation vs human control(are you using AI to help you or is AI going to boss you around?)

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