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Good points.

One of the theories I play with periodically is human homing. We have the equipment. The cryptochrome in our eyes. That's how Polynesian navigators find small islands 2000 miles or more away. We have our own GPS as do all mammals and even insects and birds. It works off the ultraviolet which hits the cryptochrome receptors in our eyes and sends the signal to the pineal.

Question being. Is there epigenetics like with the monarch butterflies where if we experience crises we have the desire to roam back to place where food was abundant in the distance past. If the Toba bottleneck theory is accurate only about 2000 of us survived that eruption. I've wondered if this place was near the Caucasus as Hitler and Bush all seem to attack towards that area.

Just a thought.
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In defense of the Scientologists,

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The reason I mention evolutionary psychology is that it gives you so many exploits to manipulate populations.

The #metoo movement simply uses the predator response to bypass logic and create a emotional response. If we were chimps we would just run away.

Likewise the immigrant children crisis which is manipulation of the predator response on a mass level.

But overriding all of these is the tendency for groups to split up when they reach like 100 people or so and form factions. This was because we could only function effectively for hunting and gathering in groups of 50 or so. So what happens is some grievance is invented. The leadership of the in power is glamorized and made bigger than life by the group that will follow him and the other factions leader is demonized, And ditto for those in other faction their leader becomes a mythic level hero and the other a Russian spy,

To control this tendency fear has to be introduced either in the form of a viscious dictator or an external threat. Terrorists groups have to be manufactured to keep the public in fear to maintain that balance with the tendency to fusion and fear response of the king rat syndrome.
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The reason I mention evolutionary psychology is that it gives you so many exploits to manipulate populations.

The #metoo movement simply uses the predator response to bypass logic and create a emotional response. If we were chimps we would just run away.

Likewise the immigrant children crisis which is manipulation of the predator response on a mass level.

But overriding all of these is the tendency for groups to split up when they reach like 100 people or so and form factions. This was because we could only function effectively for hunting and gathering in groups of 50 or so. So what happens is some grievance is invented. The leadership of the in power is glamorized and made bigger than life by the group that will follow him and the other factions leader is demonized, And ditto for those in other faction their leader becomes a mythic level hero and the other a Russian spy,

To control this tendency fear has to be introduced either in the form of a viscious dictator or an external threat. Terrorists groups have to be manufactured to keep the public in fear to maintain that balance with the tendency to fusion and fear response of the king rat syndrome.

All very good stuff, thanks for playing.

chuckle

I wanted to bring up another point, humans are top predator but also a prey species.

Our top predator status has more to do with technology and cooperating than physique, and we can still be eaten by mountain lions, sharks, bears etc.

So we also exhibit schooling/flocking/herd behaviors.

You don't want to stick out from the herd for a couple reasons: primeval fear of prey animals taking notice; your own leaders taking notice.

I wanted to show the Adam Goldberg fight scene in Dazed and Confused but I can't find the actual fight.





In the next scene Mike decides to fight Clint even though he's going to lose because he knows the herd will break it up.

chuckle

Same tactic I used politician noodling.

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They zapped me with the "manic-depressolator" but I made my point.

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here is one movie about mind control... I'm still looking for the one using words to cast spells
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The predator that evolved us was the big cat. This is also why chimps and gorillas evolved the predator response they have. Man didn't begin to predate other men until later when things become more crowded. Maybe once in a while like chimps will sometimes hunt and kill another monkey but we didn't need to because the cat became our friend.

The big city group living thing is really new like 10,000 years which is nothing compared to our evolutionary history of seven million years.


Like I said gorillas combat is ritualized kind of like what you mentioned in your post about the herd breaking it up. No need to have them fight to the death. Chest beating, bush shaking, king fu kick and a bunch of other stuff is instinctually programed in. But if you are viewed as a predator you are going to get hurt. Or if like you piss off the big grayback by repeatedly challenging him. But normally the king kong and the challenger walk away clean. Eventually the old guy weakens and the young punk replaces him.
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Future fighter pilot training may include brain surgery
By Kelly Hodgkins — Posted on June 6, 2016 - 6:11AM

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Fighter pilots already have a close connection to the planes they are flying. Now that connection may get even deeper due to the work of a group of Australian researchers and doctors. For the past four years, a team of neurologists and engineers from the University of Melbourne, along with surgeons at the Royal Melbourne Hospital, have been developing an advanced brain/machine interface that is long lasting and easy to implant. Eventually, the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which funded the project, hopes to bring this mind-control technology to the cockpit, allowing pilots to fly by the thoughts in their minds as well as by the seat of their pants.

The centerpiece of the Australian mind control system is a small biocompatible electrode called a stenode. The stenode is flexible enough to pass through the blood vessels and is operable once it reaches its destination. The electrode can measure electrical activity from the motor cortex, the part of the brain responsible for controlling movements. This electrical activity is recorded and shared with a computer system that interprets the movements. These interpretations are then used to control external machinery. In early trials, the team has successfully implanted the device into free-roaming sheep and have collected up to 190 days’ worth of brain activity.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/...ter-pilot/


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José Manuel Rodriguez Delgado

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Rodríguez Delgado's research interests centered on the use of electrical signals to evoke responses in the brain. His earliest work was with cats, but he later did experiments with monkeys and humans, including psychiatric patients.[3][4]

Much of Rodríguez Delgado's work was with an invention he called a stimoceiver, a radio which joined a stimulator of brain waves with a receiver which monitored E.E.G. waves and sent them back on separate radio channels. Some of these stimoceivers were as small as half-dollars. This allowed the subject of the experiment full freedom of movement while allowing the experimenter to control the experiment. This was a great improvement from his early equipment which included visual disturbance in those whose wires ran from the brain to bulky equipment that both recorded data and delivered the desired electrical charges to the brain. This early equipment, while not allowing for a free range of movement, was also the cause of infection in many subjects.[5]

The stimoceiver could be used to stimulate emotions and control behavior. According to Rodríguez Delgado, "Radio Stimulation of different points in the amygdala and hippocampus in the four patients produced a variety of effects, including pleasant sensations, elation, deep, thoughtful concentration, odd feelings, super relaxation, colored visions, and other responses." Rodríguez Delgado stated that "brain transmitters can remain in a person's head for life. The energy to activate the brain transmitter is transmitted by way of radio frequencies."[6]

Using the stimoceiver, Rodríguez Delgado found that he could not only elicit emotions, but he could also elicit specific physical reactions. These specific physical reactions, such as the movement of a limb or the clenching of a fist, were achieved when Rodríguez Delgado stimulated the motor cortex. A human whose implants were stimulated to produce a reaction were unable to resist the reaction and so one patient said “I guess, doctor, that your electricity is stronger than my will”. Some consider one of Rodríguez Delgado's most promising finds is that of an area called the septum within the limbic region. This area, when stimulated by Rodríguez Delgado, produced feelings of strong euphoria. These euphoric feelings were sometimes strong enough to overcome physical pain and depression.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_...ez_Delgado

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But in my mind these electronic techniques and chemicals in the water just enhance or decrease our genetically programmed in response. Like you can suppress the fission tendency with fluoride and dumb down further each successive generation until they are too stupid to do anything. And I suppose you could enhance fear and anger or calm electronically through cell phone towers.

Then you have mkultra which is useful in assassinating opposition or creating terrorist attacks to say remove guns from the public. But there is also the old fashioned way. Lying to get someone to kill like saying if they are not killed they create too much carbon dioxide and heat up the planet so you can save it by killing them. There was a really good out many years ago by Fritz Springmeier on all seven mind control techniques to creat mkultra slaves.

As far as artificial intelligence calling it intelligent is the psyop because its not intelligent its a program created by people who may have evil motives in mind.
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The predator that evolved us was the big cat. This is also why chimps and gorillas evolved the predator response they have. Man didn't begin to predate other men until later when things become more crowded. Maybe once in a while like chimps will sometimes hunt and kill another monkey but we didn't need to because the cat became our friend.

The big city group living thing is really new like 10,000 years which is nothing compared to our evolutionary history of seven million years.


Like I said gorillas combat is ritualized kind of like what you mentioned in your post about the herd breaking it up. No need to have them fight to the death. Chest beating, bush shaking, king fu kick and a bunch of other stuff is instinctually programed in. But if you are viewed as a predator you are going to get hurt. Or if like you piss off the big grayback by repeatedly challenging him. But normally the king kong and the challenger walk away clean. Eventually the old guy weakens and the young punk replaces him.

I agree.

But with regards to political mind control, which is my concern really(the masses being covertly controlled against the HEALTH and WELL-BEING of the group) for nefarious purposes, a couple examples:

In my Junior High and High Schools there were a high school frat and sorority; the Baron's(oil Barons presumably-this is Tulsa) and the Raja(not sure of the origin with the girls).

These are the sochs mentioned in "The Outsiders."(Though that was Roger's High School, not Edison(mine). Same thing.

To differentiate themselves and mind control each other from behaving in any way that would diverge from groupthink, the Barons had an unofficial dress code.

Polo shirt, acid washed levi 501 jeans and penny loafers.

One of my greaser friends pointed and laughed and called them sheep.

Another example is the argument on LOP against political threads that opposes it because politics is "divisive."

What good is a discussion forum where everybody AGREES on everything?

Boring.

The argument that left-right politics is bullshit is more sound.

Both sides of that paradigm are under groupthink mind controls.

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We weren't greaser's actually.

My friend is now a tenured professor of History at Emory University, and I became a greaser only after I started working on cars after high school.

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But in my mind these electronic techniques and chemicals in the water just enhance or decrease our genetically programmed in response. Like you can suppress the fission tendency with fluoride and dumb down further each successive generation until they are too stupid to do anything. And I suppose you could enhance fear and anger or calm electronically through cell phone towers.

Then you have mkultra which is useful in assassinating opposition or creating terrorist attacks to say remove guns from the public. But there is also the old fashioned way. Lying to get someone to kill like saying if they are not killed they create too much carbon dioxide and heat up the planet so you can save it by killing them. There was a really good out many years ago by Fritz Springmeier on all seven mind control techniques to creat mkultra slaves.

As far as artificial intelligence calling it intelligent is the psyop because its not intelligent its a program created by people who may have evil motives in mind.

I have experienced one technology that can elicit emotional states.

That isn't the same thing as being able to remote control me, or program me to be an assassin. But responses are somewhat predictable, the way I responded was to lay down on the floor and wait for it to stop.

With another person who was unaware such things were technologically possible the response would be much more unpredictable other than the result: imprisonment or psychiatric treatment, with a likelihood of self-destructive or violent behavior.

Still pretty crude, and I expect the developers had fun testing it on themselves.

What it did was use sound carried on a microwave(or directed sound, I was unable to figure it out during the exposures) to evoke mania and despair.

It toggled back and forth, and the tone changed as it did this. If you had control of it yourself it'd be fun to play with.

chuckle

So that's not that scary. I agree up to this point the current technologies tend to stimulate or suppress the nervous system in ways that interact with instinctive and en-cultured responses.

But where the technology is headed is wired interfaces with machines, that can be bi-directional, and that could become the worst form of totalitarianism: remote controlled people.

I'll include the benefits too, but on its face looks toxic, any interface of that type should be temporary like clothing or a helmet, and the physiological effects need to be monitored.

You could become dependent and addicted to it even if it's otherwise harmless.

How sound can elicit mania:





Gets me going.

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China has started ranking citizens with a creepy 'social credit' system — here's what you can do wrong, and the embarrassing, demeaning ways they can punish you

The Chinese state is setting up a vast ranking system system that will monitor the behaviour of its enormous population, and rank them all based on their "social credit."

The "social credit system," first announced in 2014, aims to reinforce the idea that "keeping trust is glorious and breaking trust is disgraceful," according to a government document.

The program is due to be fully operational by 2020, but is being piloted for millions of people already. The scheme is mandatory.

At the moment the system is piecemeal — some are run by city councils, others are scored by private tech platforms which hold personal data.

Like private credit scores, a person's social score can move up and down depending on their behaviour. The exact methodology is a secret — but examples of infractions include bad driving, smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games and posting fake news online.

1. Banning you from flying or getting the train...

http://www.businessinsider.com/china-soc...ned-2018-4

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Interesting. I'm familiar with voice to skull and that Russian thing it started with an L can't remember what it was called. But if they want revolution maybe they can send frequencies that cause agitation. And probably have technologies that work through drugs on your nervous system.

The problem with these guys though is that they don't have the big picture and collateral effects can be unexpected.

Lets say like they are trying to heat the earth to support the global warming propaganda and they are trying to trigger nuclear transitions using neutrinos. But lets say they didn't know some of the collateral effects like expanding rocks and massive earth change activity would be the result.
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Ray Kurzweil: The Coming Singularity

By 2045, we’ll have expanded the intelligence of our human machine civilization a billion fold. That will result in a technological singularity, a point beyond which it's hard to imagine.

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Well, by 2020 we’ll have computers that are powerful enough to simulate the human brain, but we won’t be finish yet with reverse engineering the human brain and understanding its methods.

One of my main themes, and I’ve developed this thesis over 30 years, is that information technology grows exponentially; the power of computers are understanding the human brain, specializes solution of brain scanning, the number of bits we move in the internet. Many different measures of information technology double every year, or every 11 months, 13 months; depending on what you’re measuring. These technologies will be a million times more powerful within 20 years.

In fact, the speed of exponential growth is itself speeding up. So, in 25 years these technologies will be a billion times more powerful than they are today. And we’ve already seen that kind of progress.

When I was an undergraduate we all shared computer at MIT that took up half of a building. The computer and your cellphone today is a million times cheaper and a thousand times more powerful. That’s a billion fold increase in price performance of computing since I was an undergraduate.

By 2029, and I’ve been quite consistent on this date, we will have completed the reverse engineering of the human brain. And we’ve already made very good progress on that. We’ve reversed engineered a number at different regions, like the cerebellum, which is responsible for our skill formation and slices of cerebral cortex where we do our cursive thinking and the auditory cortex, the visual cortex and so on.

By 2029, we’ll have reverse engineered and modeled and simulated all the regions of the brain. And that will provide us the software/algorithmic methods to simulate you know, all of the human brains capabilities including our emotional intelligence. And computers at that time will be far more powerful than the human brain. And we’ll be able to create machines that really do have subtlety and suppleness of human intelligence. And they’ll combine that power with ways in which machines are already superior to us. They can impart us all of human knowledge with the few keystrokes, it can remember billions of things accurately. They can share knowledge in electronic speeds that are million times faster than the human language.

So, it will be very powerful combination.





Transcendent Man (2009) - Official Trailer [HD]

What is it like to be an innovative genius? "Transcendent Man" tries to present some answers, by showcasing the exceptional life of Ray Kurzweil, who is constantly on a journey to bring his ideas to the world. From synths to sci-fi after-life concepts, he is driving innovation to the extreme.





I like Ray Kurzweil after watching that bio^^^

But I still have grave reservations about living in his version of Utopia.

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That social credit thing reminds of when I figured out why people laugh.

I was reading about how they found rats laugh when they are being tickled.

What laughter means at least with rats and when you tickle us on the bottom of our feet is that you are grooming me wrong. Because we had no hair on the bottom of our feet.

So in social situations it serves the same purpose. To correct stupid behavior. That's why we don't laugh at crippled people because they can't help it but we do laugh at people doing something stupid if they can correct it.
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