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14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
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RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 12:01 AM)
Isabella  Wrote: (07-11-2018 11:21 PM)
Meanwhile the last numbers from Ohio State is 150 people are being interviewed, those that were molested, those that know of someone who was or heard a rumor that they were and as important their asking for the names of employees who knew about Dr. Strauss,.

It's real easy to put your name on a statement that you believe Jordan, it's not so easy to do that when even though you like Jordan you are absolutely sure that he did know.
Besides the 2 wrestlers that are named and Jordan/others point to their dicey past you have 5 other named wrestlers who say Jordan was well aware of what was going on with Strauss and the decadent shower behavior.
One of the men who came forward also comes from a family of Ohio wrestlers who were all champions,the Ranges, David,his father and his son.
What you're also ignoring is that we have no idea what is being told to investigators by those who haven’t gone public.

Then you have Jordan's comment from Fox News which is self-explanatory.

"Conversations in a locker room are a lot different than allegations of abuse,"

Bottom line is it's not up to Jim, his wrestler defenders or his Republican buddys who will determine what adults had information and did squat.
What especially should be noted is when Jordan coached at Ohio State there was/is a very precise statement from Human Resources on sexual molestation/assault and the reporting of it.

150 people neing interviewed, but not ONLY from the wrestling department? Strauss was the sports doctor for the entire university sports program, not just wrestling.

I have no idea whether or not if I "Like" Jim Jordan or not. I know nothing about the man. All I do know is that these allegations appear to be timed in a manner that is politically motivated. And I have seen no clear cut evidence that Jim Jordan knew that "Abuse" was happening, or was ever told that "Abuse" was happening.

All involved were of legal consenting age. Unless one of these men went to Jordan first hand and said Im being abused or have been assaulted, then what was Jordan supposed to report? And he is absolutely right! Coversations in a locker room of "Docs hands are cold.as sh*t" " And he looked at every hair on my nut" from consenting aged adults, does not constitute something that should have been reported!

And by the way everyone involved were of consenting age (adults)... Was this an abuse of.power? Absolutely! But this was not a case of "child molestation" as you all keep.trying to portray it.




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Post: #17
RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
Isabella  Wrote: (07-12-2018 12:14 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-11-2018 09:42 PM)
Victim blaming??? These men were not the "Victims" of Jim Jordan. The doctor who is accused committed suicide

One said he talked to.Jordan about it? You mean the ONE who's statement to Jordan about the team doctor was “something to the effect of ‘his hands are cold as s–t, he checked out every hair on my ball,”??????

This coming from an Adult, these aren' t kids we arr talking about!!

So are you saying this man should be persecuted, and his entire political career crushed, because he didnt take a statement as above, FROM AN ADULT.... as an indication of abuse!

Was that the wrestler who went to Strauss for a sore throat?chuckle
Your adult/kids comments are not only legally null and void they're also offensive, when it comes to sexual molestation/assault and/or the mandatory reporting it at Ohio State there is no cut-off age.

So all those at the White house who didnt report Bill Clinton for "Molesting" Monica Lewinski should be held accountable?

Many things were different 20 yrs ago

Again you are being selectively and intentionally obtuse.

First off if no man there reported actual ABUSE or ASSAULT there was nothing for Jordan to report!

Hell if he did report something that turned out to be consentual between two men, wouldn't by your standards he now be accused of being Homophobic??
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RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
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Lets Add this too.... So now... 15 former Ohio State Wrestlers AND Six fellow wrestling coaches...
Defend Jordan against politically timed claims by 7 former wrestlers that he had to have known about abuse


Six wrestling coaches defend Jim Jordan against allegations he ignored abuse claims

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...use-claims

If these coaches were there during Jordan's time then they too will be investigated if any accusations come forward they they also were told about Strauss and did nothing.

What is this?

Jordan said no wrestler ever approached him to complain about abuse and called the accusations “false,” during a Fox News interview.

So Jordan needed a formal complaint lodged to him because listening to his wrestlers tell about Strauss's sexual perversions was just boys being boys "locker room talk".

Another thing thought is that many of these boys were probably at Ohio State on athletic scholarships and besides it not being of the era when young people normally spoke up about sexual abuse and filed complaints themselves they also may have feared Dr. Strauss's power over their scholarships and any financial aid if they did report him.

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RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 12:01 AM)
Isabella  Wrote: (07-11-2018 11:21 PM)
Meanwhile the last numbers from Ohio State is 150 people are being interviewed, those that were molested, those that know of someone who was or heard a rumor that they were and as important their asking for the names of employees who knew about Dr. Strauss,.

It's real easy to put your name on a statement that you believe Jordan, it's not so easy to do that when even though you like Jordan you are absolutely sure that he did know.
Besides the 2 wrestlers that are named and Jordan/others point to their dicey past you have 5 other named wrestlers who say Jordan was well aware of what was going on with Strauss and the decadent shower behavior.
One of the men who came forward also comes from a family of Ohio wrestlers who were all champions,the Ranges, David,his father and his son.
What you're also ignoring is that we have no idea what is being told to investigators by those who haven’t gone public.

Then you have Jordan's comment from Fox News which is self-explanatory.

"Conversations in a locker room are a lot different than allegations of abuse,"

Bottom line is it's not up to Jim, his wrestler defenders or his Republican buddys who will determine what adults had information and did squat.
What especially should be noted is when Jordan coached at Ohio State there was/is a very precise statement from Human Resources on sexual molestation/assault and the reporting of it.

150 people neing interviewed, but not ONLY from the wrestling department? Strauss was the sports doctor for the entire university sports program, not just wrestling.

What's your point because no one said they were all wrestlers?
What this does do is open up another can of worms on the coaches/employees of other sports at Ohio State who also may get accusations from athletes that their complaints were ignored
.

I have no idea whether or not if I "Like" Jim Jordan or not. I know nothing about the man. All I do know is that these allegations appear to be timed in a manner that is politically motivated. And I have seen no clear cut evidence that Jim Jordan knew that "Abuse" was happening, or was ever told that "Abuse" was happening.

You obvious know and like enough about Jordan to disregard those who claim that he did know of Strauss's deviant behavior and automatically believe those who are defending him.
How the hell could you have any "clear-cut evidence" when this investigation has just begun yet just by saying that they believe Jordan is enough evidence for you too to believe Jordan.

This investigation began in April and has nothing to do with Jordan's politics as there are wrestlers who came out against his denials who like him, are republicans and supported him politically.


All involved were of legal consenting age. Unless one of these men went to Jordan first hand and said Im being abused or have been assaulted, then what was Jordan supposed to report? And he is absolutely right! Coversations in a locker room of "Docs hands are cold.as sh*t" " And he looked at every hair on my nut" from consenting aged adults, does not constitute something that should have been reported!

"legal consulting age" OMG!

It has zilch to do with age.

You are really are screwed in the head and also oblivious of doctors who have lost their licenses and have been criminally prosecuted for sexually molestating/assaulting their adult patients.

btw, Some of those patients never went to the authorities and only came forward after a lawsuit was brought against the doctor by another patient and then pressed charges.
Why are you just focused on this one conversation when according to the wrestlers it was common talk with Jordan present about the perverted actions of Dr. Strauss when his wrestlers were in his office?

We're looking at Ohio State very likely turning into a Penn/Sandusky and Wisconsin/Dr.Nassar on who knew what, when and where and didn't report it.

Read the link I posted about Ohio State's policy in 1980 on reporting ANY sexual misconduct and you'll see again just how wrong you are.


And by the way everyone involved were of consenting age (adults)... Was this an abuse of.power? Absolutely! But this was not a case of "child molestation" as you all keep.trying to portray it.

FFS! No one is calling or has called this "child molestation" it's you that's making this false accusation along with your other ludicrous conclusions.

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RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
Isabella  Wrote: (07-12-2018 01:36 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 12:01 AM)
150 people neing interviewed, but not ONLY from the wrestling department? Strauss was the sports doctor for the entire university sports program, not just wrestling.

What's your point because no one said they were all wrestlers?
What this does do is open up another can of worms on the coaches/employees of other sports at Ohio State who also may get accusations from athletes that their complaints were ignored
.

I have no idea whether or not if I "Like" Jim Jordan or not. I know nothing about the man. All I do know is that these allegations appear to be timed in a manner that is politically motivated. And I have seen no clear cut evidence that Jim Jordan knew that "Abuse" was happening, or was ever told that "Abuse" was happening.

You obvious know and like enough about Jordan to disregard those who claim that he did know of Strauss's deviant behavior and automatically believe those who are defending him.
How the hell could you have any "clear-cut evidence" when this investigation has just begun yet just by saying that they believe Jordan is enough evidence for you too to believe Jordan.

This investigation began in April and has nothing to do with Jordan's politics as there are wrestlers who came out against his denials who like him, are republicans and supported him politically.


All involved were of legal consenting age. Unless one of these men went to Jordan first hand and said Im being abused or have been assaulted, then what was Jordan supposed to report? And he is absolutely right! Coversations in a locker room of "Docs hands are cold.as sh*t" " And he looked at every hair on my nut" from consenting aged adults, does not constitute something that should have been reported!

"legal consulting age" OMG!

It has zilch to do with age.

You are really are screwed in the head and also oblivious of doctors who have lost their licenses and have been criminally prosecuted for sexually molestating/assaulting their adult patients.

btw, Some of those patients never went to the authorities and only came forward after a lawsuit was brought against the doctor by another patient and then pressed charges.
Why are you just focused on this one conversation when according to the wrestlers it was common talk with Jordan present about the perverted actions of Dr. Strauss when his wrestlers were in his office?

We're looking at Ohio State very likely turning into a Penn/Sandusky and Wisconsin/Dr.Nassar on who knew what, when and where and didn't report it.

Read the link I posted about Ohio State's policy in 1980 on reporting ANY sexual misconduct and you'll see again just how wrong you are.


And by the way everyone involved were of consenting age (adults)... Was this an abuse of.power? Absolutely! But this was not a case of "child molestation" as you all keep.trying to portray it.

FFS! No one is calling or has called this "child molestation" it's you that's making this false accusation along with your other ludicrous conclusions.

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Post: #21
RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
Isabella  Wrote: (07-12-2018 01:36 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 12:01 AM)
150 people neing interviewed, but not ONLY from the wrestling department? Strauss was the sports doctor for the entire university sports program, not just wrestling.

What's your point because no one said they were all wrestlers?
What this does do is open up another can of worms on the coaches/employees of other sports at Ohio State who also may get accusations from athletes that their complaints were ignored
.

I have no idea whether or not if I "Like" Jim Jordan or not. I know nothing about the man. All I do know is that these allegations appear to be timed in a manner that is politically motivated. And I have seen no clear cut evidence that Jim Jordan knew that "Abuse" was happening, or was ever told that "Abuse" was happening.

You obvious know and like enough about Jordan to disregard those who claim that he did know of Strauss's deviant behavior and automatically believe those who are defending him.
How the hell could you have any "clear-cut evidence" when this investigation has just begun yet just by saying that they believe Jordan is enough evidence for you too to believe Jordan.

This investigation began in April and has nothing to do with Jordan's politics as there are wrestlers who came out against his denials who like him, are republicans and supported him politically.


All involved were of legal consenting age. Unless one of these men went to Jordan first hand and said Im being abused or have been assaulted, then what was Jordan supposed to report? And he is absolutely right! Coversations in a locker room of "Docs hands are cold.as sh*t" " And he looked at every hair on my nut" from consenting aged adults, does not constitute something that should have been reported!

"legal consulting age" OMG!

It has zilch to do with age.

You are really are screwed in the head and also oblivious of doctors who have lost their licenses and have been criminally prosecuted for sexually molestating/assaulting their adult patients.

btw, Some of those patients never went to the authorities and only came forward after a lawsuit was brought against the doctor by another patient and then pressed charges.
Why are you just focused on this one conversation when according to the wrestlers it was common talk with Jordan present about the perverted actions of Dr. Strauss when his wrestlers were in his office?

We're looking at Ohio State very likely turning into a Penn/Sandusky and Wisconsin/Dr.Nassar on who knew what, when and where and didn't report it.

Read the link I posted about Ohio State's policy in 1980 on reporting ANY sexual misconduct and you'll see again just how wrong you are.


And by the way everyone involved were of consenting age (adults)... Was this an abuse of.power? Absolutely! But this was not a case of "child molestation" as you all keep.trying to portray it.

FFS! No one is calling or has called this "child molestation" it's you that's making this false accusation along with your other ludicrous conclusions.

I refuse to address each of those individually.

Indeed the investigation has just begun, and what I find to be ludicrous is the pitch fork baring witch hunt against Jordan individually.

Show me one statement where a player went directly to Jordan and directly said he was being sexually assaulted by Strauss

Otherwise all the spin, and hyperbole doesnt mean sh*t

There is a reason you continuously use the terms, these boys/kids and molestation
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Post: #22
RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
Isabella  Wrote: (07-12-2018 01:35 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-11-2018 09:22 PM)
Lets Add this too.... So now... 15 former Ohio State Wrestlers AND Six fellow wrestling coaches...
Defend Jordan against politically timed claims by 7 former wrestlers that he had to have known about abuse


Six wrestling coaches defend Jim Jordan against allegations he ignored abuse claims

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...use-claims

Holman wasn't even at Ohio State coaching when Jordan was, don't know about the others but if they were there during Jordan's time then they too will be investigated if any accusations come forward they they also were told about Strauss and did nothing.

What is this?

Jordan said no wrestler ever approached him to complain about abuse and called the accusations “false,” during a Fox News interview.

So Jordan needed a formal complaint lodged to him because listening to his wrestlers tell about Strauss's sexual perversions was just boys being boys "locker room talk".

Another thing thought is that many of these boys were probably at Ohio State on athletic scholarships and besides it not being of the era when young people normally spoke up about sexual abuse and filed complaints themselves they also may have feared Dr. Strauss's power over their scholarships and any financial aid if they did report him.

And yes, "Docs hands are cold.as sh*t" and "He checked every hair on my ball" is indeed.... Locker room talk

I dont give a rats ass about anyones "thoughts"
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RE: 14 OH state wrestlers DEFEND Republican Jem Jordan in Release
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-12-2018 02:04 AM)
Isabella  Wrote: (07-12-2018 01:36 AM)

I refuse to address each of those individually.

Indeed the investigation has just begun, and what I find to be ludicrous is the pitch fork baring witch hunt against Jordan individually.

Show me one statement where a player went directly to Jordan and directly said he was being sexually assaulted by Strauss

Otherwise all the spin, and hyperbole doesnt mean sh*t

There is a reason you continuously use the terms, these boys/kids and molestation





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