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Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
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MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 09:35 PM)
Rothbard  Wrote: (11-25-2014 09:31 PM)
Wow! Spectacular photos that could never have been faked. I hope my sarcasm is evident.

Have you got evidence that suggests the image I posted was faked? (or is fake)

Why are the "buggy" tracks so visible EXCEPT leading to or from where the "buggy" IS?
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Post: #32
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:15 PM)
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 09:35 PM)
Have you got evidence that suggests the image I posted was faked? (or is fake)

Why are the "buggy" tracks so visible EXCEPT leading to or from where the "buggy" IS?

I imagine because of the terrain and how much dust was in that area.

You can see the tracks leading up to where it's parked in the image but they are a bit fainter than the rest, but there is variation (lighter and darker) between all the sets of tracks even within a single track.
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Post: #33
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This basically comes down to whether you think NASA tells the truth or not.

I don't.


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Post: #34
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:20 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:15 PM)
Why are the "buggy" tracks so visible EXCEPT leading to or from where the "buggy" IS?

I imagine because of the terrain and how much dust was in that area.

You can see the tracks leading up to where it's parked in the image but they are a bit fainter than the rest, but there is variation (lighter and darker) between all the sets of tracks even within a single track.

I guess you are looking at a larger higher definition image as I see nothing as you say. No tracks leading to where the “buggy” is parked at all.
Plus, what wind or other method would blow/distribute dust unevenly?
The moon dust is supposed to be from impacts which blow fragments into the atmosphere – the fragments without escape velocity settle back onto the moon surface as dust – why would this distribute thicker in areas further away from where they parked the “buggy”?
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pauldamo  Wrote: (11-25-2014 09:53 PM)
they never said the camera filming the ascent from the moon was remote controlled,it was a tracking camera.


No it wasnt, NASA claimed it was remotely operated. Quite a feat too considering the signal delay time. Jptdknpa
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Post: #36
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Samples of 90 degrees changes in shadow directions from the sun.

[Image: Shadows1_zps449183bd.png]

[Image: Shadows2_zps59e6d5f0.jpg]

[Image: Shadows3_zpscdd0c42f.jpg]

Wait a second.... I don't see any 90 degrees shifts in shadow direction.
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Post: #37
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Rothbard  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:02 PM)
"Where should we put the fold-up dune buggy?" "I know, we don't need much oxygen, thrust, or coolant. Maybe we should just shed the extra parts because nothing can go wrong on the moon."

[Image: LM_illustration_02_zpsb85a5353.jpg]

the rover wasn't in the lander it was on it,this animation might help.

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Post: #38
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
Rothbard  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:34 PM)
Samples of 90 degrees changes in shadow directions from the sun.

[Image: Shadows1_zps449183bd.png]

[Image: Shadows2_zps59e6d5f0.jpg]

[Image: Shadows3_zpscdd0c42f.jpg]

Wait a second.... I don't see any 90 degrees shifts in shadow direction.

No long horizontal objects in the images.

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For the lunar liftoff, engineers had numerous calculations to make prior to the mission to allow for filming. Attached to a pan and tilt unit, the television camera could be controlled directly from Earth via a large high-gain antenna on the rover. Since signals to and from Earth are delayed by a few seconds due to the 240,000 mile distance, mission engineers suggested pre-programming the lunar module liftoffs for Apollo missions 15, 16, and 17. Based on mathematical calculations, the rover would be driven and left some distance from lunar module, and the camera would automatically tilt up to show the ascent when commanded by the operator on Earth,they only got it right on the apollo 17 mission.
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Post: #40
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pauldamo  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:53 PM)
For the lunar liftoff, engineers had numerous calculations to make prior to the mission to allow for filming. Attached to a pan and tilt unit, the television camera could be controlled directly from Earth via a large high-gain antenna on the rover. Since signals to and from Earth are delayed by a few seconds due to the 240,000 mile distance, mission engineers suggested pre-programming the lunar module liftoffs for Apollo missions 15, 16, and 17. Based on mathematical calculations, the rover would be driven and left some distance from lunar module, and the camera would automatically tilt up to show the ascent when commanded by the operator on Earth,they only got it right on the apollo 17 mission.

Actually less than 1.4 seconds at 300,000+ miles, so very very doable.

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Post: #41
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pauldamo  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:53 PM)
For the lunar liftoff, engineers had numerous calculations to make prior to the mission to allow for filming. Attached to a pan and tilt unit, the television camera could be controlled directly from Earth via a large high-gain antenna on the rover. Since signals to and from Earth are delayed by a few seconds due to the 240,000 mile distance, mission engineers suggested pre-programming the lunar module liftoffs for Apollo missions 15, 16, and 17. Based on mathematical calculations, the rover would be driven and left some distance from lunar module, and the camera would automatically tilt up to show the ascent when commanded by the operator on Earth,they only got it right on the apollo 17 mission.

So there was no footage of the 1st (Armstrong et al) Luna lift-off?
A mix up of missions and TV footage on the internet I guess!

Even then a 1.4 second delay for a less than 1 second event is some mega-good cameraman work!
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Post: #42
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pauldamo  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:34 PM)
Rothbard  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:02 PM)
"Where should we put the fold-up dune buggy?" "I know, we don't need much oxygen, thrust, or coolant. Maybe we should just shed the extra parts because nothing can go wrong on the moon."

[Image: LM_illustration_02_zpsb85a5353.jpg]

the rover wasn't in the lander it was on it,this animation might help.


As is evident, NASA either allegedly removed items to allow for the rover or they attached a box. Somehow, the heavy rover magically had no impact on the balance of the Lunar Lander either way. Horse s***!
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Post: #43
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Rothbard  Wrote: (11-25-2014 08:52 PM)
Was our technology extraordinarily error free? Don't you think that Armstrong would have been a little nervous to fly an untested ridiculous craft after an event like this?

I am sure NASA would answer that he was not nervous because this time he had Aldrin by his side to comfort him.
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Post: #44
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:26 PM)
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:20 PM)
I imagine because of the terrain and how much dust was in that area.

You can see the tracks leading up to where it's parked in the image but they are a bit fainter than the rest, but there is variation (lighter and darker) between all the sets of tracks even within a single track.

I guess you are looking at a larger higher definition image as I see nothing as you say. No tracks leading to where the “buggy” is parked at all.
Plus, what wind or other method would blow/distribute dust unevenly?
The moon dust is supposed to be from impacts which blow fragments into the atmosphere – the fragments without escape velocity settle back onto the moon surface as dust – why would this distribute thicker in areas further away from where they parked the “buggy”?

There most certainly are tracks leading to where the buggy is parked.

Secondly, there's no wind on the Moon.

Lunar soil is formed in various ways; The Moon didn't form with an even coating of dust covering the entire surface.
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Post: #45
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Rothbard  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:34 PM)
Samples of 90 degrees changes in shadow directions from the sun.

[Image: Shadows1_zps449183bd.png]

[Image: Shadows2_zps59e6d5f0.jpg]

[Image: Shadows3_zpscdd0c42f.jpg]

Wait a second.... I don't see any 90 degrees shifts in shadow direction.

It depends on where the light source is, and what angle the observer is looking in relation to the object producing the shadow as well as which direction the light source is coming from.

You keep saying 90 degrees which isn't accurate anyways.
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