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Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
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Post: #46
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
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MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 09:22 PM)
Rothbard  Wrote: (11-25-2014 09:16 PM)
Please post the pictures so everyone here can stand in awe of the high quality pictures that certainly could not have been faked by an amateur.

Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter photo of Apollo 17 landing site

link to image: http://stashpit.com/upload/big/2014/11/2...59d3f.jpeg

Where are the tracks that lead to where the rover was parked?
Oh wait... maybe since their is no gravity and it would be light the astronauts carried it there.
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Post: #47
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:26 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:26 PM)
I guess you are looking at a larger higher definition image as I see nothing as you say. No tracks leading to where the “buggy” is parked at all.
Plus, what wind or other method would blow/distribute dust unevenly?
The moon dust is supposed to be from impacts which blow fragments into the atmosphere – the fragments without escape velocity settle back onto the moon surface as dust – why would this distribute thicker in areas further away from where they parked the “buggy”?

There most certainly are tracks leading to where the buggy is parked.

Secondly, there's no wind on the Moon.

Lunar soil is formed in various ways; The Moon didn't form with an even coating of dust covering the entire surface.

Like I said, I guess yo have another picture as the one you posted shows no tracks.

I named one way moon dust is created, what are the others and why would they be uneven?
Moon “soil”? Maybe there are geological processes on the moon I have not read about that can cause thicker “soil” a few yards from where they parked the “buggy”? Care to tell us what geological processes create the "moon soil"?

The moon did not form with dust at all, the dust “fell” later and surely evenly because, as we both imply there is no wind on the moon – so why is the dust of uneven depths as you suggest as the reason you can't see tracks leading to where the “buggy” is parked?
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11-25-2014 11:44 PM

 



Post: #48
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
Rediknik  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:23 PM)
This basically comes down to whether you think NASA tells the truth or not.

I don't.

I am in your corner, looks like Tin foiled wrapped BS to me.
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Post: #49
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:36 PM)
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:26 PM)
There most certainly are tracks leading to where the buggy is parked.

Secondly, there's no wind on the Moon.

Lunar soil is formed in various ways; The Moon didn't form with an even coating of dust covering the entire surface.

Like I said, I guess yo have another picture as the one you posted shows no tracks.

I named one way moon dust is created, what are the others and why would they be uneven?
Moon “soil”? Maybe there are geological processes on the moon I have not read about that can cause thicker “soil” a few yards from where they parked the “buggy”? Care to tell us what geological processes create the "moon soil"?

The moon did not form with dust at all, the dust “fell” later and surely evenly because, as we both imply there is no wind on the moon – so why is the dust of uneven depths as you suggest as the reason you can't see tracks leading to where the “buggy” is parked?

If you can't seem to see them in the image I posted, you can Google various others; save them to your computer and then zoom in on them.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:36 PM)
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 09:22 PM)
Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter photo of Apollo 17 landing site

link to image: http://stashpit.com/upload/big/2014/11/2...59d3f.jpeg

Where are the tracks that lead to where the rover was parked?
Oh wait... maybe since their is no gravity and it would be light the astronauts carried it there.

Okay I'm lying, there are no tracks. They used super advanced teleportation technology to move it there.
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Post: #50
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:59 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:36 PM)
Like I said, I guess yo have another picture as the one you posted shows no tracks.

I named one way moon dust is created, what are the others and why would they be uneven?
Moon “soil”? Maybe there are geological processes on the moon I have not read about that can cause thicker “soil” a few yards from where they parked the “buggy”? Care to tell us what geological processes create the "moon soil"?

The moon did not form with dust at all, the dust “fell” later and surely evenly because, as we both imply there is no wind on the moon – so why is the dust of uneven depths as you suggest as the reason you can't see tracks leading to where the “buggy” is parked?

If you can't seem to see them in the image I posted, you can Google various others; save them to your computer and then zoom in on them.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:36 PM)
Where are the tracks that lead to where the rover was parked?
Oh wait... maybe since their is no gravity and it would be light the astronauts carried it there.

Okay I'm lying, there are no tracks. They used super advanced teleportation technology to move it there.

Busted !You are lying again chuckle Advanced super teleportation will not be available till the year 2022.
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Post: #51
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:04 AM)
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:59 PM)
If you can't seem to see them in the image I posted, you can Google various others; save them to your computer and then zoom in on them.


Okay I'm lying, there are no tracks. They used super advanced teleportation technology to move it there.

Busted !You are lying again chuckle Advanced super teleportation will not be available till the year 2022.

lol
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Post: #52
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:59 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:36 PM)
Like I said, I guess yo have another picture as the one you posted shows no tracks.

I named one way moon dust is created, what are the others and why would they be uneven?
Moon “soil”? Maybe there are geological processes on the moon I have not read about that can cause thicker “soil” a few yards from where they parked the “buggy”? Care to tell us what geological processes create the "moon soil"?

The moon did not form with dust at all, the dust “fell” later and surely evenly because, as we both imply there is no wind on the moon – so why is the dust of uneven depths as you suggest as the reason you can't see tracks leading to where the “buggy” is parked?

If you can't seem to see them in the image I posted, you can Google various others; save them to your computer and then zoom in on them.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:36 PM)
Where are the tracks that lead to where the rover was parked?
Oh wait... maybe since their is no gravity and it would be light the astronauts carried it there.

Okay I'm lying, there are no tracks. They used super advanced teleportation technology to move it there.
I really have no need to do that – I can't see what is not there.
You claimed that you had a photo that proved they landed on the moon – you posted no proof of anything that does not pose more questions – questions you seem unable to answer, such as the geological processes that create the “Luna soil” you claim is thicker in some places than others...

I'm not a “denier” (although if they did go, I'd like to know how they really got there one day) but I will not tolerate “proofs” that are not “proofs” - another example ( a pet peeve of mine) would be people claiming “proof” we went to the moon is laser-reflection measurement from parabolic reflectors taken by hand... Well, firstly, we did not need to put them there “by hand” but secondly, the first laser-reflection measurements of the moon took place YEARS BEFORE the 1st moon mission – the Luna surface is SO reflective NO equipment has EVER been required to bounce laser back to Earth for measuring purposes- so still not “proof”.
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Post: #53
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:10 AM)
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 11:59 PM)
If you can't seem to see them in the image I posted, you can Google various others; save them to your computer and then zoom in on them.


Okay I'm lying, there are no tracks. They used super advanced teleportation technology to move it there.
I really have no need to do that – I can't see what is not there.
You claimed that you had a photo that proved they landed on the moon – you posted no proof of anything that does not pose more questions – questions you seem unable to answer, such as the geological processes that create the “Luna soil” you claim is thicker in some places than others...

I'm not a “denier” (although if they did go, I'd like to know how they really got there one day) but I will not tolerate “proofs” that are not “proofs” - another example ( a pet peeve of mine) would be people claiming “proof” we went to the moon is laser-reflection measurement from parabolic reflectors taken by hand... Well, firstly, we did not need to put them there “by hand” but secondly, the first laser-reflection measurements of the moon took place YEARS BEFORE the 1st moon mission – the Luna surface is SO reflective NO equipment has EVER been required to bounce laser back to Earth for measuring purposes- so still not “proof”.

Yup, I've met my stupidity limit for today.

I concede. The whole thing was faked, yaba daba doo. I don't know anything, you know everything.

Here's a transcript of what you've said thus far:

"Zoom in on better quality images? f*#k doing that - I know there's nothing there anyways because there is clearly nothing there when you look at the image that was taken from some distance away.

How does lunar soil form? That's TOP SECRET information that can't be found on various websites on the internets. I must rely on certified LOP members to disclose such information.

You're photos and videos don't mean sh*t. Physics? HA! BULLSHIT."

You're not a denier? What else would you call it? Lmao
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Post: #54
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:10 AM)
another example ( a pet peeve of mine) would be people claiming “proof” we went to the moon is laser-reflection measurement from parabolic reflectors taken by hand... Well, firstly, we did not need to put them there “by hand” but secondly, the first laser-reflection measurements of the moon took place YEARS BEFORE the 1st moon mission – the Luna surface is SO reflective NO equipment has EVER been required to bounce laser back to Earth for measuring purposes- so still not “proof”.

Being that I am a LASER Electro-Optical Technician.. I can say you are full of BS...

A reflective surface would "disperse" LASER light by itself, thus giving false readings...

Reflectors are there because they needed "focus" for accurate measurements, as the LASER light is refocused back to origination point depending "ENTIRELY" on the first initial angle before shooting the beam...

1 degree off is no big deal in a short run, but to cover the distance "and back?".. it could miss the entire earth itself..

Best shot ever done, was when they shot the mirror, and could not find the beam return.. looking, someone noticed an anomaly in the beam, thus when they checked, they found out that their math was so accurate, that the beam bounced back down to the LASER itself..chuckle

Early test's proved just "shooting a beam" to the moon, is not accurate in any way shape or form for measurement's..

Damn moon'tards..
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Post: #55
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:20 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:10 AM)
I really have no need to do that – I can't see what is not there.
You claimed that you had a photo that proved they landed on the moon – you posted no proof of anything that does not pose more questions – questions you seem unable to answer, such as the geological processes that create the “Luna soil” you claim is thicker in some places than others...

I'm not a “denier” (although if they did go, I'd like to know how they really got there one day) but I will not tolerate “proofs” that are not “proofs” - another example ( a pet peeve of mine) would be people claiming “proof” we went to the moon is laser-reflection measurement from parabolic reflectors taken by hand... Well, firstly, we did not need to put them there “by hand” but secondly, the first laser-reflection measurements of the moon took place YEARS BEFORE the 1st moon mission – the Luna surface is SO reflective NO equipment has EVER been required to bounce laser back to Earth for measuring purposes- so still not “proof”.

Yup, I've met my stupidity limit for today.

I concede. The whole thing was faked, yaba daba doo. I don't know anything, you know everything.

Here's a transcript of what you've said thus far:

"Zoom in on better quality images? f*#k doing that - I know there's nothing there anyways because there is clearly nothing there when you look at the image that was taken from some distance away.

How does lunar soil form? That's TOP SECRET information that can't be found on various websites on the internets. I must rely on certified LOP members to disclose such information.

You're photos and videos don't mean sh*t. Physics? HA! BULLSHIT."

You're not a denier? What else would you call it? Lmao


Hmm – strange tactics you use to get out of the fact that YOU posted a picture claiming it to be “proof” - I show you it to be no such thing and now you adopt “shill-like” tactics for an emotional attack upon me!

I doubt you work for NASA or have any other reason to be a “shill” so why so emotionally attached to trying to prove a point with evidence that is clearly not “proof”?

Why are you attempting to attach a straw-man argument to what I said, put words in my mouth and label me? – you should really not care so much, you may damage your health, such emotional obsession over a simple mistake is a little bizarre, don't you think?
Just, next time, try to actually show “proof” when you claim to have “proof” - simple really – no need to get all upset when I demonstrate that your “proof” is not what you claim it to be and ask you to back up your further claims of uneven distribution of “Luna soil”...


It always makes me wonder why there are so many people SO desperate to prove we went to the moon that they lie, make massive mistakes, invent evidence, misuse physics, misplace historical achievements and even get so emotionally attached to the subject that they make themselves sound ridiculous - not that you necessarily fit into that description - just saying.
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Post: #56
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:32 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:10 AM)
another example ( a pet peeve of mine) would be people claiming “proof” we went to the moon is laser-reflection measurement from parabolic reflectors taken by hand... Well, firstly, we did not need to put them there “by hand” but secondly, the first laser-reflection measurements of the moon took place YEARS BEFORE the 1st moon mission – the Luna surface is SO reflective NO equipment has EVER been required to bounce laser back to Earth for measuring purposes- so still not “proof”.

Being that I am a LASER Electro-Optical Technician.. I can say you are full of BS...

A reflective surface would "disperse" LASER light by itself, thus giving false readings...

Reflectors are there because they needed "focus" for accurate measurements, as the LASER light is refocused back to origination point depending "ENTIRELY" on the first initial angle before shooting the beam...

1 degree off is no big deal in a short run, but to cover the distance "and back?".. it could miss the entire earth itself..

Best shot ever done, was when they shot the mirror, and could not find the beam return.. looking, someone noticed an anomaly in the beam, thus when they checked, they found out that their math was so accurate, that the beam bounced back down to the LASER itself..chuckle

Early test's proved just "shooting a beam" to the moon, is not accurate in any way shape or form for measurement's..

Damn moon'tards..

And out stroll the LIARS - you sir are either a liar or should be sacked!

"The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length. Similar measurements were obtained later the same year by a Soviet team at the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory using a Q-switched ruby laser."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser...experiment

Damn liar'tards...
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Post: #57
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:32 AM)
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:20 AM)
Yup, I've met my stupidity limit for today.

I concede. The whole thing was faked, yaba daba doo. I don't know anything, you know everything.

Here's a transcript of what you've said thus far:

"Zoom in on better quality images? f*#k doing that - I know there's nothing there anyways because there is clearly nothing there when you look at the image that was taken from some distance away.

How does lunar soil form? That's TOP SECRET information that can't be found on various websites on the internets. I must rely on certified LOP members to disclose such information.

You're photos and videos don't mean sh*t. Physics? HA! BULLSHIT."

You're not a denier? What else would you call it? Lmao


Hmm – strange tactics you use to get out of the fact that YOU posted a picture claiming it to be “proof” - I show you it to be no such thing and now you adopt “shill-like” tactics for an emotional attack upon me!

I doubt you work for NASA or have any other reason to be a “shill” so why so emotionally attached to trying to prove a point with evidence that is clearly not “proof”?

Why are you attempting to attach a straw-man argument to what I said, put words in my mouth and label me? – you should really not care so much, you may damage your health, such emotional obsession over a simple mistake is a little bizarre, don't you think?
Just, next time, try to actually show “proof” when you claim to have “proof” - simple really – no need to get all upset when I demonstrate that your “proof” is not what you claim it to be and ask you to back up your further claims of uneven distribution of “Luna soil”...


It always makes me wonder why there are so many people SO desperate to prove we went to the moon that they lie, make massive mistakes, invent evidence, misuse physics, misplace historical achievements and even get so emotionally attached to the subject that they make themselves sound ridiculous - not that you necessarily fit into that description - just saying.

I couldn't care less what you believe.

I showed proof, and it remains proof.

Your inability to zoom in on images doesn't refute it, and nothing else you have said is evidence to the contrary either.

Everything I typed is factual.

If you believe the image is bullshit then whatever, that's cool.

I'm not, however, going to sit here and type you a science lesson because you're too lazy to Google how lunar soil can form and disperse over the surface of the Moon. This is downright petty and adds nothing to the debate (which isn't even a debate).

The End.
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Post: #58
RE: Moon Landings and Other NASA BS
MrGemini  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:40 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-26-2014 12:32 AM)
Hmm – strange tactics you use to get out of the fact that YOU posted a picture claiming it to be “proof” - I show you it to be no such thing and now you adopt “shill-like” tactics for an emotional attack upon me!

I doubt you work for NASA or have any other reason to be a “shill” so why so emotionally attached to trying to prove a point with evidence that is clearly not “proof”?

Why are you attempting to attach a straw-man argument to what I said, put words in my mouth and label me? – you should really not care so much, you may damage your health, such emotional obsession over a simple mistake is a little bizarre, don't you think?
Just, next time, try to actually show “proof” when you claim to have “proof” - simple really – no need to get all upset when I demonstrate that your “proof” is not what you claim it to be and ask you to back up your further claims of uneven distribution of “Luna soil”...


It always makes me wonder why there are so many people SO desperate to prove we went to the moon that they lie, make massive mistakes, invent evidence, misuse physics, misplace historical achievements and even get so emotionally attached to the subject that they make themselves sound ridiculous - not that you necessarily fit into that description - just saying.

I couldn't care less what you believe.

I showed proof, and it remains proof.

Your inability to zoom in on images doesn't refute it, and nothing else you have said is evidence to the contrary either.

Everything I typed is factual.

If you believe the image is bullshit then whatever, that's cool.

I'm not, however, going to sit here and type you a science lesson because you're too lazy to Google how lunar soil can form and disperse over the surface of the Moon. This is downright petty and adds nothing to the debate (which isn't even a debate).

The End.

You assume that I can't or haven't - I have, that is how I knew you could not explain it - you have not and are still going by what you were told...

You trust the source, fine, I do not - I can't (and no-body ever has) prove they did NOT go, I can disprove what is used as "proof" and is not "proof" used by either side of the "argument" - I am not part of the argument as I am in no way emotionally charged by the truth, I just want to know the truth - If you offered up "proof" that we did NOT go that was equally not "proof" I would have debated that also...
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MrGemini  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:20 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-25-2014 10:15 PM)
Why are the "buggy" tracks so visible EXCEPT leading to or from where the "buggy" IS?

I imagine because of the terrain and how much dust was in that area.

You can see the tracks leading up to where it's parked in the image but they are a bit fainter than the rest, but there is variation (lighter and darker) between all the sets of tracks even within a single track.

Quote:Blast craters?

Blast craters would not be produced when the module was landing (when the amount of thrust produced is very low) on solid rockunder less gravitational pull than on Earth.

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Debunk this.


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