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Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
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01-04-2018 04:00 AM

 



Post: #16
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 03:59 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 03:47 AM)
Updated to add

The Intel processor flaw is real. A PhD student at the systems and network security group at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam has developed a proof-of-concept program that exploits the Chipzilla flaw to read kernel memory from user mode:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02...sign_flaw/

Oh the FEAR lol. How about just returning the favor enabling a line-of-sight straight back to the hacker? It is not hard exploit X-Forward using simple tools via CMD tracert and GEOIPTool. Use NetSat or nip over to Princeton IP Locator.

https://www.net.princeton.edu/static-ip.html

https://www.net.princeton.edu/traceroute.html

Thank me later - your friendly neighborhood 3011 Whitehatman

NetStat sorry... edit
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01-04-2018 04:03 AM

 



Post: #17
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 01:52 AM)
Shameless attempt to get people to buy AMD.

Intel is superior.

Yeah, if you like getting constantly spied on by a remote computer running minit on your machine.


Funny thing is, they said it all along.

INTEL INSIDE. Yeah, deep state has had access to your intel chipsets all these years.

nelson
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01-04-2018 04:06 AM

 



Post: #18
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
FreeFlow  Wrote: (01-04-2018 02:26 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 01:52 AM)
Shameless attempt to get people to buy AMD.

Intel is superior.

What more do they want ?
They already have over 85 % of the market

It's interesting, my computer savvy friends and I have all known since the 1990's that AMD is far better for this reason.


Isn't it interesting how you can know stuff if you care enough to do your research, yet if you let the lying TV and government interests tell you how to think you get screwed.
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01-04-2018 04:27 AM

 



Post: #19
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 04:06 AM)
FreeFlow  Wrote: (01-04-2018 02:26 AM)
What more do they want ?
They already have over 85 % of the market

It's interesting, my computer savvy friends and I have all known since the 1990's that AMD is far better for this reason.


Isn't it interesting how you can know stuff if you care enough to do your research, yet if you let the lying TV and government interests tell you how to think you get screwed.

Almost any chip on the loop can attack a crappy root. AMD, INTEL, Pentium M, all of them. Nvidia can be ripped apart to do some shitty stuff to your machines, hide the sucker, then recreate even after a full format. Sorry if your machines are corrupted then the chances are these days you need to throw it in the bin and start again and build your own from scratch.

A good way of simple anti-root kit is via Zemana https://www.zemana.com/

The free version is good enough to stop logging attacks but you need to either hack a premium or grab a paid version to stop screen, video, cam logging. this is just a simple method for noobs.

Funny though... if you are savvy enough to use analytics, and D should know or be aware of, you can catch a hack simply using Google Analytics.

Oh and Marco - I suspect somewhere in your shell there is a little bug, glitchy text editor mate ;)
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01-04-2018 04:30 AM

 



Post: #20
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 04:27 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 04:06 AM)
It's interesting, my computer savvy friends and I have all known since the 1990's that AMD is far better for this reason.


Isn't it interesting how you can know stuff if you care enough to do your research, yet if you let the lying TV and government interests tell you how to think you get screwed.

Almost any chip on the loop can attack a crappy root. AMD, INTEL, Pentium M, all of them. Nvidia can be ripped apart to do some shitty stuff to your machines, hide the sucker, then recreate even after a full format. Sorry if your machines are corrupted then the chances are these days you need to throw it in the bin and start again and build your own from scratch.

A good way of simple anti-root kit is via Zemana https://www.zemana.com/

The free version is good enough to stop logging attacks but you need to either hack a premium or grab a paid version to stop screen, video, cam logging. this is just a simple method for noobs.

Funny though... if you are savvy enough to use analytics, and D should know or be aware of, you can catch a hack simply using Google Analytics.

Oh and Marco - I suspect somewhere in your shell there is a little bug, glitchy text editor mate ;)

Of course.

The point is, Intel can always be compromised, by design.
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01-04-2018 04:42 AM

 



Post: #21
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 04:30 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 04:27 AM)
Almost any chip on the loop can attack a crappy root. AMD, INTEL, Pentium M, all of them. Nvidia can be ripped apart to do some shitty stuff to your machines, hide the sucker, then recreate even after a full format. Sorry if your machines are corrupted then the chances are these days you need to throw it in the bin and start again and build your own from scratch.

A good way of simple anti-root kit is via Zemana https://www.zemana.com/

The free version is good enough to stop logging attacks but you need to either hack a premium or grab a paid version to stop screen, video, cam logging. this is just a simple method for noobs.

Funny though... if you are savvy enough to use analytics, and D should know or be aware of, you can catch a hack simply using Google Analytics.

Oh and Marco - I suspect somewhere in your shell there is a little bug, glitchy text editor mate ;)

Of course.

The point is, Intel can always be compromised, by design.

Absolutely. As I just created a thread on tracert, it is the most simple method of exposing a hack. it is of my opinion every single machine on the planet is under attack of some form. it is impossible even for the most savvy of us to be immune - however just constant monitoring can reduce any paranoid moments from an enduser lol
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01-04-2018 04:51 AM

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Post: #22
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
The actual odds of this "hack" being utilized are leass than .0001%. Intel is a far superior processor to AMD. Always has been, always will be. It's not just about raw speed, it's about actual utilization for cpu.

Even now I type this on an Intel I7 920 at 2.67Ghz that can still play Battlefield 1 at 60 frames. Try that with a 10 year old AMD processor.

Tracert cannot "expose a hack", tracert shows you which hops or routing points the 3 packets of data went, and how long each point took to reach the destination you typed in. Unless all of your traces go through langley.gov or nsa.gov you are probably ok. Netstat is a far better way of determining if your just turned on computer is making requests out. Tracert only shows you how latent your internet connection is at any given moment.

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son" ~ Dean Wormer.
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Post: #23
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 04:42 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 04:30 AM)
Of course.

The point is, Intel can always be compromised, by design.

Absolutely. As I just created a thread on tracert, it is the most simple method of exposing a hack. it is of my opinion every single machine on the planet is under attack of some form. it is impossible even for the most savvy of us to be immune - however just constant monitoring can reduce any paranoid moments from an enduser lol

You can protect yourself completely from intrusions into all ports with the proper software, on an AMD chiset.

Intel has built in backdoors that will not be detected by firewalls, because they use a different protocol. You cannot protect yourself from this.

They have a second operating firmware built in. You can be hacked by a computer running the proper remote system, you will not know it, and it will not be recognized or logged, because it uses unrecognizable protocols. All that will happen will be someone else will get your data.
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01-04-2018 05:48 AM

 



Post: #24
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
There's at least 3 variations of this flaw and it affects most modern processors.

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Variants of this issue are known to affect many modern processors, including certain processors by Intel, AMD and ARM. For a few Intel and AMD CPU models, we have exploits that work against real software. We reported this issue to Intel, AMD and ARM on 2017-06-01 [1].

So far, there are three known variants of the issue:

Variant 1: bounds check bypass (CVE-2017-5753)
Variant 2: branch target injection (CVE-2017-5715)
Variant 3: rogue data cache load (CVE-2017-5754)
"
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.ca/20...-side.html


https://spectreattack.com/spectre.pdf
https://meltdownattack.com/meltdown.pdf

^^ Guaranteed to make your eyes glaze over ^^ chuckle
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Post: #25
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 05:48 AM)
There's at least 3 variations of this flaw and it affects most modern processors.

"
Variants of this issue are known to affect many modern processors, including certain processors by Intel, AMD and ARM. For a few Intel and AMD CPU models, we have exploits that work against real software. We reported this issue to Intel, AMD and ARM on 2017-06-01 [1].

So far, there are three known variants of the issue:

Variant 1: bounds check bypass (CVE-2017-5753)
Variant 2: branch target injection (CVE-2017-5715)
Variant 3: rogue data cache load (CVE-2017-5754)
"
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.ca/20...-side.html


https://spectreattack.com/spectre.pdf
https://meltdownattack.com/meltdown.pdf

^^ Guaranteed to make your eyes glaze over ^^ chuckle

I don't think this thread is about known processor flaws, this is referring to hidden firmware systems that don''t show up unless you physically scan the chip with a high resolution scan and physically look at the chip architecture.

A hidden second firmware system, utilizing it's own design,protocol and language that can be hidden withing standard 8088 machine code..
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01-04-2018 06:00 AM

 



Post: #26
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
well, DUH! This is the sh*t you get when you design an internet/PC/Smart phone interface to be custom made for big surveillance.
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01-04-2018 06:02 AM

 



Post: #27
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
Pretty sure the CEO of INTEL thinks this is much worse for INTEL than AMD or ARM as he maxed out his stock options and unloaded his max. allowed a month ago. chuckle

https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/12/1...stock.aspx


(totally not insider trading, tho)
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01-04-2018 06:06 AM

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Post: #28
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
Intel has had operations in Is rah el for a long time now. Just saying, you know who might be behind this.
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01-04-2018 06:07 AM

 



Post: #29
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:00 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 05:48 AM)
There's at least 3 variations of this flaw and it affects most modern processors.

"
Variants of this issue are known to affect many modern processors, including certain processors by Intel, AMD and ARM. For a few Intel and AMD CPU models, we have exploits that work against real software. We reported this issue to Intel, AMD and ARM on 2017-06-01 [1].

So far, there are three known variants of the issue:

Variant 1: bounds check bypass (CVE-2017-5753)
Variant 2: branch target injection (CVE-2017-5715)
Variant 3: rogue data cache load (CVE-2017-5754)
"
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.ca/20...-side.html


https://spectreattack.com/spectre.pdf
https://meltdownattack.com/meltdown.pdf

^^ Guaranteed to make your eyes glaze over ^^ chuckle

I don't think this thread is about known processor flaws, this is referring to hidden firmware systems that don''t show up unless you physically scan the chip with a high resolution scan and physically look at the chip architecture.

A hidden second firmware system, utilizing it's own design,protocol and language that can be hidden withing standard 8088 machine code..

See, this is the kind of post you get when someone clueless tries to post using pseudo-techno-gobledegook. chuckle


ps. your first sentence is 100% incorrect.... and it goes downhill from there.
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01-04-2018 06:21 AM

 



Post: #30
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:07 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:00 AM)
I don't think this thread is about known processor flaws, this is referring to hidden firmware systems that don''t show up unless you physically scan the chip with a high resolution scan and physically look at the chip architecture.

A hidden second firmware system, utilizing it's own design,protocol and language that can be hidden withing standard 8088 machine code..

See, this is the kind of post you get when someone clueless tries to post using pseudo-techno-gobledegook. chuckle


ps. your first sentence is 100% incorrect.... and it goes downhill from there.

Do elaborate, it's been quite a while since I peeked or poked, and then only on very simple machines.

Are you suggesting one has to understand machine code or even assembler language to understand the concept?


This place is about 99.99% accusations, and .01% substance. Go ahead, wow us.
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