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Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest
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01-04-2018 06:53 AM

 



Post: #31
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:21 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:07 AM)
See, this is the kind of post you get when someone clueless tries to post using pseudo-techno-gobledegook. chuckle


ps. your first sentence is 100% incorrect.... and it goes downhill from there.

Do elaborate, it's been quite a while since I peeked or poked, and then only on very simple machines.

Are you suggesting one has to understand machine code or even assembler language to understand the concept?


This place is about 99.99% accusations, and .01% substance. Go ahead, wow us.


Quote:I don't think this thread is about known processor flaws,

But that's EXACTLY what it's about. If you bother to follow the link in OP's post you'll see the first sentence which says..
"All week, the tech world has been piecing through rumors of a potentially catastrophic flaw in an entire generation of processors — but with all developers subject to a non-disclosure agreement, there were few hard facts to go on. "
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/3/168468...acos-linux

Quote:this is referring to hidden firmware systems that don''t show up unless you physically scan the chip with a high resolution scan and physically look at the chip architecture.
That is just wild speculation without any real world facts to back it up as is your final sentence.

You're not trying to distract from the actual known facts by any chance, are you?
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Pasta Lover
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01-04-2018 06:56 AM

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Post: #32
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
The Intel flaw is codenamed Meltdown and it can be mitigated but with lower performance. The other flaw codenamed Spectre affects Intel, AMD and ARM, probably others. It's more difficult to exploit but will take at least a decade to fix. It's a big problem. Most likely an "on purpose" added many years ago. Be afraid.
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01-04-2018 06:57 AM

 



Post: #33
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
Wait you mean computers are prone to hackers? DO TELL.. chuckle
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01-04-2018 06:59 AM

 



Post: #34
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:53 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:21 AM)
Do elaborate, it's been quite a while since I peeked or poked, and then only on very simple machines.

Are you suggesting one has to understand machine code or even assembler language to understand the concept?


This place is about 99.99% accusations, and .01% substance. Go ahead, wow us.


Quote:I don't think this thread is about known processor flaws,

But that's EXACTLY what it's about. If you bother to follow the link in OP's post you'll see the first sentence which says..
"All week, the tech world has been piecing through rumors of a potentially catastrophic flaw in an entire generation of processors — but with all developers subject to a non-disclosure agreement, there were few hard facts to go on. "
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/3/168468...acos-linux

Quote:this is referring to hidden firmware systems that don''t show up unless you physically scan the chip with a high resolution scan and physically look at the chip architecture.
That is just wild speculation without any real world facts to back it up as is your final sentence.

You're not trying to distract from the actual known facts by any chance, are you?

No, not trying to distract, however I admit I did not read the article.

I did in fact make the assumption this was about something else, about INTEL INSIDE.

My apologies.
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01-04-2018 07:02 AM

 



Post: #35
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:59 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:53 AM)
But that's EXACTLY what it's about. If you bother to follow the link in OP's post you'll see the first sentence which says..
"All week, the tech world has been piecing through rumors of a potentially catastrophic flaw in an entire generation of processors — but with all developers subject to a non-disclosure agreement, there were few hard facts to go on. "
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/3/168468...acos-linux

That is just wild speculation without any real world facts to back it up as is your final sentence.

You're not trying to distract from the actual known facts by any chance, are you?

No, not trying to distract, however I admit I did not read the article.

I did in fact make the assumption this was about something else, about INTEL INSIDE.

My apologies.

chuckle np
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01-04-2018 07:03 AM

 



Post: #36
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
Pasta Lover  Wrote: (01-04-2018 06:56 AM)
The Intel flaw is codenamed Meltdown and it can be mitigated but with lower performance. The other flaw codenamed Spectre affects Intel, AMD and ARM, probably others. It's more difficult to exploit but will take at least a decade to fix. It's a big problem. Most likely an "on purpose" added many years ago. Be afraid.

exactly
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01-04-2018 07:08 AM

 



Post: #37
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
Bow down to your refrigerator for it will be your ruler in the future and know more about you than your own family who you never see.
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01-04-2018 07:11 AM

 



Post: #38
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 07:08 AM)
Bow down to your refrigerator for it will be your ruler in the future and know more about you than your own family who you never see.

sigh...
My fridge has been my ruler for well over 30 years now.
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01-04-2018 07:18 AM

 



Post: #39
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 07:11 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-04-2018 07:08 AM)
Bow down to your refrigerator for it will be your ruler in the future and know more about you than your own family who you never see.

sigh...
My fridge has been my ruler for well over 30 years now.

LOL!
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SevenThunders
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01-04-2018 08:12 AM

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Post: #40
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
LunaC  Wrote: (01-04-2018 02:07 AM)
CyberDan  Wrote: (01-04-2018 01:55 AM)
Not on the newest ones.

I'll wait for proof in the pudding but I'm not here to argue with an AMD fanboy on the new ryzen. The benefit of the architecture is above and beyond 95% of what most people, even gamers, utilize in the current market. Nothing intel won't catch up to considering some concepts I've seen.
#And yes, I said catch up to. Intel is certainly cozy in their place at the top but AMD is giving them a good run for their money.

Catch up? As much as I would like AMD to create some real competition here, the most powerful 16 core Ryzen is like number 15 in the list of most powerful high end CPUs. All the rest are Intels. The single core performance is quite a bit lower as well.

Nevertheless for the price point it's a pretty good buy.

The LORD thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number,
and mighty is the army that obeys his command.
The day of the LORD is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?
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01-04-2018 08:27 AM

 



Post: #41
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
AMD stock should pop then. I am Intel all the way as they work directly with Microsoft. I dont trust AMD to have all of the HOOKS into Windows as necessary including spy crap. Go with AMD if you want mysterious Hangups or Blue screens.
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01-04-2018 01:44 PM

 



Post: #42
RE: Processor flaw exposes 20 years of devices to new attack!
I got news for yah , every chip on the planet has backdoor in it,


or governments wouldn't allow them to prosper.


same thing with operating systems,,, hence why bill gates got out because it will be soon evident that he compromised systems on purpose for the usa government.

and honestly 20 years......and NO ONE knew...


someone knew

wink wink.
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