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Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
ELIJAH ELIAKIM
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'According to consumer group Which?, nearly 12,000 fires in the past three years in Britain have been the fault of defective white goods and kitchen equipment.

BBC News website users have shared their experiences of electrical home goods gone wrong, sometimes causing life-changing damage to their home.'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33125685

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
We used to programme our dishwasher to start during the night to save on our electricity bills.

(snip)

They explained that the appliance most likely had an electrical fault. The front of the machine was charred and the electrical panel was no longer present...


WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE SMART APPLIANCES?

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
Appliance fires pose a safety concern
Millions of dishwashers, fridges, ranges, and more are on recall lists

Consumer Reports magazine: March 2012

More than 15 million appliance units have been recalled in the past five years for defects that could cause a fire, according to our analysis of CPSC records, with 1,942 incidents reported. Almost half of the recalled units were dishwashers, and the CPSC told us that it is investigating the problem. The large number of recalls is a sobering reminder of how important it is for consumers to register their products with manufacturers so that they receive notices if the product is recalled.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magaz.../index.htm

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:00 AM)
We used to programme our dishwasher to start during the night to save on our electricity bills.

(snip)

They explained that the appliance most likely had an electrical fault. The front of the machine was charred and the electrical panel was no longer present...


WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE SMART APPLIANCES?

A lot of the pictures in the news article appear to be older appliances and interesting there seems to be a large % of appliances that were put on when people went out. As far as 'Smart Appliances' I don't know Luv as I haven't looked at appliances for a long time. However it would be interesting to know how many of those poorer homes have 'smart metres'.

As that is a very high % of house fires in three years due to appliances. And that's just the ones that have been reported. So there is bound to be many more than that.

In some social housing they have replaced kitchens and heating systems. In the UK they have to be replaced every 20 years. However - electrics haven't been brought up to date - although they did put in some new fuse boxes in some properties.

Some social housing in the larger inner cities was built in the 60's and all that wiring should be replaced. That's one of the reasons that they're trying to move people out of London - so that property developers can do the refurbishment due to the high cost of it.

'The greater the love that you are - the greater the causes you are given' Lotus Feet - the Love Liberator - spreading the love - spreading the color - with oils - essences - energy and foods for healing magnanimously - as Jesus said 'You can do it with Grace' Cheer
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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
ELIJAH ELIAKIM  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:12 AM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:00 AM)
We used to programme our dishwasher to start during the night to save on our electricity bills.

(snip)

They explained that the appliance most likely had an electrical fault. The front of the machine was charred and the electrical panel was no longer present...


WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE SMART APPLIANCES?

A lot of the pictures in the news article appear to be older appliances and interesting there seems to be a large % of appliances that were put on when people went out. As far as 'Smart Appliances' I don't know Luv as I haven't looked at appliances for a long time. However it would be interesting to know how many of those poorer homes have 'smart metres'.

As that is a very high % of house fires in three years due to appliances. And that's just the ones that have been reported. So there is bound to be many more than that.

In some social housing they have replaced kitchens and heating systems. In the UK they have to be replaced every 20 years. However - electrics haven't been brought up to date - although they did put in some new fuse boxes in some properties.

Some social housing in the larger inner cities was built in the 60's and all that wiring should be replaced. That's one of the reasons that they're trying to move people out of London - so that property developers can do the refurbishment due to the high cost of it.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIjPQLqxQEc

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
ELIJAH ELIAKIM  Wrote: (06-14-2015 11:40 PM)
'According to consumer group Which?, nearly 12,000 fires in the past three years in Britain have been the fault of defective white goods and kitchen equipment.

BBC News website users have shared their experiences of electrical home goods gone wrong, sometimes causing life-changing damage to their home.'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33125685

Which appliances? Maytag?Whirlpool?
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:03 AM)
Appliance fires pose a safety concern
Millions of dishwashers, fridges, ranges, and more are on recall lists

Consumer Reports magazine: March 2012

More than 15 million appliance units have been recalled in the past five years for defects that could cause a fire, according to our analysis of CPSC records, with 1,942 incidents reported. Almost half of the recalled units were dishwashers, and the CPSC told us that it is investigating the problem. The large number of recalls is a sobering reminder of how important it is for consumers to register their products with manufacturers so that they receive notices if the product is recalled.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magaz.../index.htm

snip:

Electromagnetic interference. In 2009, a Magic Chef gas range in a Brooklyn, N.Y., home was mistakenly being turned on by a mobile digital device. Whirlpool, which owns Maytag, confirmed that the range required a suppressor to keep signals from the device from firing it up. Stories like that are rare, but because of the ever-increasing use of mobile devices and electronic-enhanced appliances, preventing electromagnetic interference (EMI) is more important than ever.

“It’s hard to find an appliance these days that’s not supported by some kind of microcomputer,” says the IEEE’s Lipoff. “If that device isn’t specifically tested, its wires could act like an antenna, picking up electromagnetic interference that could be the equivalent of pressing the start button.” The Federal Communications Commission regulates how much electromagnetic interference certain appliances generate but not how much they receive. The European Union regulates both. Many U.S. manufacturers do their own EMI testing, which can be more stringent than the standards.

If society fell apart, we - the people would build a new one. Most people are good at their core, and when we see things that are wrong we work to fix them together. Make friends with your neighbors, get involved with your community - because we will rebuild our lives, our communities, from horrible circumstances we always will.
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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
ELIJAH ELIAKIM  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:12 AM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:00 AM)
We used to programme our dishwasher to start during the night to save on our electricity bills.

(snip)

They explained that the appliance most likely had an electrical fault. The front of the machine was charred and the electrical panel was no longer present...


WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE SMART APPLIANCES?

A lot of the pictures in the news article appear to be older appliances and interesting there seems to be a large % of appliances that were put on when people went out. As far as 'Smart Appliances' I don't know Luv as I haven't looked at appliances for a long time. However it would be interesting to know how many of those poorer homes have 'smart metres'.

As that is a very high % of house fires in three years due to appliances. And that's just the ones that have been reported. So there is bound to be many more than that.

In some social housing they have replaced kitchens and heating systems. In the UK they have to be replaced every 20 years. However - electrics haven't been brought up to date - although they did put in some new fuse boxes in some properties.

Some social housing in the larger inner cities was built in the 60's and all that wiring should be replaced. That's one of the reasons that they're trying to move people out of London - so that property developers can do the refurbishment due to the high cost of it.

Old appliances don't burn except clothes dryers. Lint buildup.

Furnaces maybe, but they are more likely to put out Carbon Monoxide and have bad
Air Conditioning cooling first if the filters clog.

Electric heaters and other high load appliances can have electrical fires, but the appliances in the article were dunce appliances.

(Smart Appliances)

Anything with Energy Star on the label since a couple years ago is dunced.

Jhikpghf

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
How Smart Meters Are Helping Utilities With Voltage Management

Advanced meters are giving utilities new tools for voltage control.
Jeff St. John
January 13, 2014

Managing voltages to save energy and reduce peak-driven strains on the grid isn’t a new idea. Some of the original volt/VAR optimization (VVO) and conservation voltage reduction (CVR) schemes are decades old. They’ve helped save lots of energy, but they’ve also faced a key limitation: the need to avoid dropping voltages so low that they start causing problems for customers at the edge of the grid.

Knowing just how low voltages are getting at those grid endpoints is a really tricky task, however. Having sensors in place could help ensure the quality of power being delivered to customers and allow utilities to push the bounds of their voltage management plans...

http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/r...n-the-rise

You can't save energy by managing voltage at endpoints.

What you can do is:

1) Make sure voltage doesn't drop so appliances don't fry.
2) Cut the voltage and increase the current, frying the appliance.

chuckle

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:28 AM)
ELIJAH ELIAKIM  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:12 AM)
A lot of the pictures in the news article appear to be older appliances and interesting there seems to be a large % of appliances that were put on when people went out. As far as 'Smart Appliances' I don't know Luv as I haven't looked at appliances for a long time. However it would be interesting to know how many of those poorer homes have 'smart metres'.

As that is a very high % of house fires in three years due to appliances. And that's just the ones that have been reported. So there is bound to be many more than that.

In some social housing they have replaced kitchens and heating systems. In the UK they have to be replaced every 20 years. However - electrics haven't been brought up to date - although they did put in some new fuse boxes in some properties.

Some social housing in the larger inner cities was built in the 60's and all that wiring should be replaced. That's one of the reasons that they're trying to move people out of London - so that property developers can do the refurbishment due to the high cost of it.

Old appliances don't burn except clothes dryers. Lint buildup.

Furnaces maybe, but they are more likely to put out Carbon Monoxide and have bad
Air Conditioning cooling first if the filters clog.

Electric heaters and other high load appliances can have electrical fires, but the appliances in the article were dunce appliances.

(Smart Appliances)

Anything with Energy Star on the label since a couple years ago is dunced.

Jhikpghf

Ok thank you for sharing.

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
Some friends had their dishwasher catch fire a few years ago and our gas range had an issue when I was a kid - not to mention the umpteen dozen stories about flooding from washing machines and dishwashers and the duh stories from people burning their houses down cooking popcorn in the microwave, using candles, or leaving things cooking on the stove.

Consequently, I've never gone to bed or left the house with a heat-producing or water using appliance turned on. It's just common sense. I opened the dryer door the other day when running an errand and my visiting 24-year-old son thought I was nuts. LOL! He's an engineer and he didn't realize just how risky it was to leave appliances unmonitored.
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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
Smart Meter Fires and Explosions

The following is a compilation of reports from the US , Australia and Canada about fires, explosions, electrical problems or burned out appliances due to Smart Meter installations. If you have experienced similar problems, please post your story in the comment section below.

The US Consumer Products Safety Commission (CPSC) is a federal agency that will take complaints on utility smart meters from all US states. If you have or had smart meter electrical or fire problems CALL: (800) 638-2772 Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. ET or submit your complaint by email.

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January 7, 2015: Alexandria, Virginia: Smart meter explodes and causes $75,000 in damage to residence. http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/fr/news/201...15_04.htm#

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Here’s a data response on smart meter fires from PG&E to the CPUC Energy Division. It is mostly redacted. PG&E says they are now using temperature and voltage sensors on smart meters and have changed out many electrical panels. Data Response PG&E smart meter fires
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Dec 17, 2014 SaskPower confirms White City smart meter fire

“Tuesday’s fire the 10th smart meter fire in province. Smart meters are being removed across the province, but yet another one has sparked a fire.
SaskPower said the fire happened in White City on Tuesday. The company described it as similar to the other nine fires with melting or smoke seen on the meters, but no damage to the house. Other fires have varied in size from some just melting, to others that charred the siding on a home.”

______________________________________________

Smart meters catch-fire when it rains

saskpower-fire-in-regina-nov-2014“…an independent review in Canada revealed that smart meters are experiencing catastrophic failures when rain water (and/or condensation along with other contaminants) gets into the smart meters themselves, causing arcing across electronic components with eventual failure of the meter.

Well, last night it rained in Regina, Saskatchewan, and there was another smart meter fire.

SaskPower confirmed crews were called to replace yet another failed smart meter on a resident’s home on Regina’s east side early Friday morning.”

lots more here:

http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters...xplosions/

One of the other problems with digital appliances is the zigbee and the controls attract roaches.

chuckle

They are attracted to pulsed microwaves.

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:42 AM)
Some friends had their dishwasher catch fire a few years ago and our gas range had an issue when I was a kid - not to mention the umpteen dozen stories about flooding from washing machines and dishwashers and the duh stories from people burning their houses down cooking popcorn in the microwave, using candles, or leaving things cooking on the stove.

Consequently, I've never gone to bed or left the house with a heat-producing or water using appliance turned on. It's just common sense. I opened the dryer door the other day when running an errand and my visiting 24-year-old son thought I was nuts. LOL! He's an engineer and he didn't realize just how risky it was to leave appliances unmonitored.

But you can save money by waiting for off-peak time and turn it on from work with your dummyfone.

chuckle

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RE: Electrical Appliance ALERT! 12,000 Fires in 3 years
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-15-2015 12:42 AM)
Some friends had their dishwasher catch fire a few years ago and our gas range had an issue when I was a kid - not to mention the umpteen dozen stories about flooding from washing machines and dishwashers and the duh stories from people burning their houses down cooking popcorn in the microwave, using candles, or leaving things cooking on the stove.

Consequently, I've never gone to bed or left the house with a heat-producing or water using appliance turned on. It's just common sense. I opened the dryer door the other day when running an errand and my visiting 24-year-old son thought I was nuts. LOL! He's an engineer and he didn't realize just how risky it was to leave appliances unmonitored.

Yea we turn everything off now.

'The greater the love that you are - the greater the causes you are given' Lotus Feet - the Love Liberator - spreading the love - spreading the color - with oils - essences - energy and foods for healing magnanimously - as Jesus said 'You can do it with Grace' Cheer
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