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Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
pie
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Post: #46
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
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PioneerSpirit  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:08 PM)
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 02:59 PM)
We pay taxes to ensure the government watches out for us and our best interests.

Different taxes pay for different things.
Border security. Paved Roads. Infrastructure. Schools.
We don't pay taxes to hire government nannies.
It's not the governments job to try to fix 'stupid'.

It is quite literally their job to get you to safety, no matter what.

You could extend your reasoning to say hey it's not their job to protect borders. You shouldn't be stupid enough to go live next to one.
Or it's not their job to make roads safer, just don't be so stupid to drive a car.
Or it's not their job to make sure there's work, just don't be so stupid as to need income.

The government's mandate is to govern and protect the people.
Serve and protect and all that ...

JB1
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Post: #47
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:04 PM)
FurriesRock  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:02 PM)
False,

Taxes are not an investment, and you have no claim to any return from them.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Should anyone take any advice from a guy with "Semen is magic" as his sig ...

Government is a cost, like water or electricity.
You pay a bill to get a service.

How is this in any way an investment?
What are you talking about?

You only think in secular terms.

Government has a spiritual dimension to its existence as well.

To consider the secular only is to have a mental handicap.

Why are you even here, its obvious that you're not into CT.

Perhaps you would be happier over at some official DNC forum, or Facebook perhaps?
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Post: #48
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
FurriesRock  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:13 PM)
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:04 PM)
Should anyone take any advice from a guy with "Semen is magic" as his sig ...

Government is a cost, like water or electricity.
You pay a bill to get a service.

How is this in any way an investment?
What are you talking about?

You only think in secular terms.

Government has a spiritual dimension to its existence as well.

To consider the secular only is to have a mental handicap.

Why are you even here, its obvious that you're not into CT.

Perhaps you would be happier over at some official DNC forum, or Facebook perhaps?

It's funny that you equate CT to retardation.

Independent critical thinking is quite the opposite to substituting your own for anything that isn't mainstream.

JB1
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Post: #49
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:13 PM)
PioneerSpirit  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:08 PM)
Different taxes pay for different things.
Border security. Paved Roads. Infrastructure. Schools.
We don't pay taxes to hire government nannies.
It's not the governments job to try to fix 'stupid'.

It is quite literally their job to get you to safety, no matter what.

Not 'no matter what'.
First responders and government officials warned people.
Shelters are opened.
In some cases mass transportation out of the area is made available.

It's not the governments job, nor the job of first responders, to DIE trying to rescue people who refuse to leave and then change their mind in the middle of a storm. First responders are clear when the warnings go out .. 'we can not come get you when the storm is happening'. They simply can't. It's impossible. And it shouldn't be expected that first responders die trying to get to people who refused to help themselves when they could.

Sorry. But I have to disagree with you PIE.

"They notice that you notice" - Mothman Prophecies doomed

A tradition cannot make an historical claim and then refuse to have it evaluated by history
pie
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Post: #50
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
PioneerSpirit  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:16 PM)
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:13 PM)
It is quite literally their job to get you to safety, no matter what.

Not 'no matter what'.
First responders and government officials warned people.
Shelters are opened.
In some cases mass transportation out of the area is made available.

It's not the governments job, nor the job of first responders, to DIE trying to rescue people who refuse to leave and then change their mind in the middle of a storm. First responders are clear when the warnings go out .. 'we can not come get you when the storm is happening'. They simply can't. It's impossible. And it shouldn't be expected that first responders die trying to get to people who refused to help themselves when they could.

Sorry. But I have to disagree with you PIE.

Who said anything about dying?
Where did i imply that? You are taking things to extremes.

I'm saying it's the government's job to protect you.

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Post: #51
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:18 PM)
PioneerSpirit  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:16 PM)
Not 'no matter what'.
First responders and government officials warned people.
Shelters are opened.
In some cases mass transportation out of the area is made available.

It's not the governments job, nor the job of first responders, to DIE trying to rescue people who refuse to leave and then change their mind in the middle of a storm. First responders are clear when the warnings go out .. 'we can not come get you when the storm is happening'. They simply can't. It's impossible. And it shouldn't be expected that first responders die trying to get to people who refused to help themselves when they could.

Sorry. But I have to disagree with you PIE.

Who said anything about dying?
Where did i imply that? You are taking things to extremes.

I'm saying it's the government's job to protect you.

All you can do is keep spouting the same thing over and over.

Provide evidence, or show support of your idea from antiquity, or quit crying already.
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Post: #52
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:18 PM)
I'm saying it's the government's job to protect you.

... and then you said 'no matter what'.
So I took that to mean what you said .. 'no matter what'.
Did I misunderstand what you wrote?
If so, I apologize.

The government can only do so much.
People have to help themselves.
It's not a nanny state.

"They notice that you notice" - Mothman Prophecies doomed

A tradition cannot make an historical claim and then refuse to have it evaluated by history
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Post: #53
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
FurriesRock  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:20 PM)
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:18 PM)
Who said anything about dying?
Where did i imply that? You are taking things to extremes.

I'm saying it's the government's job to protect you.

All you can do is keep spouting the same thing over and over.

Provide evidence, or show support of your idea from antiquity, or quit crying already.

The main purpose of government is to seek the welfare of the civilians and to fulfill their need for the betterment of the nation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government

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pie
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Post: #54
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
PioneerSpirit  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:22 PM)
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:18 PM)
I'm saying it's the government's job to protect you.

... and then you said 'no matter what'.
So I took that to mean what you said .. 'no matter what'.
Did I misunderstand what you wrote?
If so, I apologize.

The government can only do so much.
People have to help themselves.
It's not a nanny state.

Well, there is something to be said for that.

They have no problems sending soldiers to their deaths, now do they?

That being said, if it's not possible to do anything about the situation, it isn't possible, period.
But that doesn't mean the people (as a whole), and their well-being does not fall under the government's responsibility.
Katrina anyone? What a disaster.

So let me rephraze
If something CAN be done for those people, something SHOULD be done for those people.
No matter the inconvenience.

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Post: #55
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:26 PM)
FurriesRock  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:20 PM)
All you can do is keep spouting the same thing over and over.

Provide evidence, or show support of your idea from antiquity, or quit crying already.

The main purpose of government is to seek the welfare of the civilians and to fulfill their need for the betterment of the nation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government

And that's a false definition based on erroneous secular thinking.

You're just another liberal trying to justify your lifestyle of being a parasite upon society.
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Post: #56
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
FurriesRock  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:28 PM)
pie  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:26 PM)
The main purpose of government is to seek the welfare of the civilians and to fulfill their need for the betterment of the nation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government

And that's a false definition based on erroneous secular thinking.

You're just another liberal trying to justify your lifestyle of being a parasite upon society.

So by your reasoning, society has no purpose.
Everyone is just a parasite.
Societies are an anomaly, right?

That's a wikipedia article ... anyone has the possibility to suggest an edit. Go for it.

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Post: #57
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
FEMA was created and incorporated into US Code for that purpose.

/stupid thread
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Post: #58
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:41 PM)
FEMA was created and incorporated into US Code for that purpose.

/stupid thread

FEMA should be abolished.

FEMA is literally another liberal program that allows people to continue to make bad lifestyle choices, instead of being responsible for themselves.

#AbolishFEMA
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Post: #59
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
FurriesRock  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:49 PM)
FEMA should be abolished.

Um .. no. That's extreme. FEMA is necessary.
But so is people taking personal responsibility.
Both are needed.

"They notice that you notice" - Mothman Prophecies doomed

A tradition cannot make an historical claim and then refuse to have it evaluated by history
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Post: #60
RE: Its not the Governments job to rescue you!
PioneerSpirit  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:52 PM)
FurriesRock  Wrote: (09-14-2018 03:49 PM)
FEMA should be abolished.

Um .. no. That's extreme. FEMA is necessary.
But so is people taking personal responsibility.
Both are needed.

Okay, I admit.

FEMA does serve a legit function, that shouldn't be overblown.
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