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If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
pinguu
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09-11-2016 09:28 PM

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Post: #16
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:19 PM)
The protocol is this...bury her in a coffin and throw her in a hole where she belongs so she can rot. Lying, evil POS that she is...

Or Burn her as a Witch for Halloween......she might just hang on until Oct 31st..

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Frigg Stuyvesant
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09-11-2016 09:31 PM

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Post: #17
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
PopEye  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:17 PM)
Frigg Stuyvesant  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:06 PM)
When Hillary is incapacitated or otherwise unable to continue... You mean like today?

Ironic the towers collapsed on 911 and so did the Clinton Crime legacy.

What next ?

what would happen if one of the presidential candidates were to die or become otherwise incapacitated before Election Day: Would Pense or Kaine assume the nomination?

Not necessarily. Each party has its own protocol for this scenario, but in neither case does the running mate automatically take over the ticket. If Pense were to die before the election, the rules of the Republican Party authorize the Republican National Committee to fill the vacancy, either by reconvening a national convention or by having RNC state representatives vote. The new nominee must receive a majority vote to officially become the party candidate. If illary were to die before the election, the Democratic Party's charter and bylaws state that responsibility for filling that vacancy would fall to the Democratic National Committee, but the rules do not specify how exactly the DNC would go about doing that. (Congress could also pass a special statute and push back Election Day, giving the dead candidate's party time to regroup.)

What happens if the party doesn't have time to select and endorse a new candidate? In 2000, Akhil Reed Amar outlined for Slate some of the head-scratching scenarios that might occur if a candidate died just before the election, without enough time to prep new ballots or to decide how votes should be counted.

The outcome would be a little more straightforward—though not necessarily more politically satisfying—if the candidate dies between the general election on Nov. 4 but before the Electoral College votes on Dec. 15. There's no federal law that mandates how electors must cast their votes; theoretically, if the candidate to whom they were pledged dies and their party has not made a preferred successor clear, electors can vote for their party's VP candidate, a third-party candidate, or a leading preconvention contender within their own party. Under this scenario, however, individual state laws have the potential to make things murky, given that each state has the power to determine exactly how its electoral votes are to be cast and distributed.

Bonus Explainer: What if the candidate dies after the election but before the inauguration on Jan. 20? The 20th Amendment states that if the president-elect dies before beginning his term, then the vice president-elect assumes his or her spot. However, the point at which a candidate officially becomes "president-elect" is debatable. He or she definitely assumes the title after Jan. 6, when a joint session of Congress officially counts the Electoral College votes and declares a winner. But the shift could be said to occur immediately after the Electoral College vote. (See Pages 2 and 3 of this PDF article from the Arkansas Law Review.)

If a candidate dies after Dec. 15 but before Jan. 6, Congress, when it convenes, has to decide whether to count the votes cast for him. (In 1872, three electoral votes cast for the late Horace Greeley were discounted by Congress, but it's unclear whether votes cast for a living candidate who subsequently dies would be treated the same way.)

If Congress decides the votes are valid, then the laws of presidential succession kick in, and that candidate's running mate moves up the ladder. If Congress decides to throw out the votes, then the question becomes whether the living candidate can be said to have a majority of the overall electoral votes—if not, then, according to the 12th Amendment, the House of Representatives must elect the president from among the three candidates with the most votes.

Thanks for all that info Frigg.

My pleasure.

Cui Bono?
WAKE UP and THINK FOR YOURSELF!
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09-11-2016 09:36 PM

 



Post: #18
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
THE DNC Gets to APPOINT a new First!
But Little Timmy Kaine will take the lead and they will get a new patsy for second place.
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Post: #19
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
pinguu  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:28 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:19 PM)
The protocol is this...bury her in a coffin and throw her in a hole where she belongs so she can rot. Lying, evil POS that she is...

Or Burn her as a Witch for Halloween......she might just hang on until Oct 31st..

i know, right. she'll fit right in there!

THANKS FRIGG. (as usual)
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Post: #20
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
Quote:If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?

Standard protocol is a wake, a funeral, a burial, a party, and then everyone in her will gets to dig through her sh*t .. if not Bill.
Skyrison
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09-11-2016 09:51 PM

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Post: #21
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
She deservers all that is happening and is going to happen to her. I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. After all she has done, she made her sh*t stain bed. Now she has to lay in it.
Friendster SpaceBook
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09-11-2016 09:57 PM

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Post: #22
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
Frigg Stuyvesant  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:06 PM)
PopEye  Wrote: (09-11-2016 08:58 PM)
My wife and were wondering almost the same thing. In our case, we wondered what the protocol was (if any), if Hillary was incapacitated or otherwise unable to continue?

When Hillary is incapacitated or otherwise unable to continue... You mean like today?

Ironic the towers collapsed on 911 and so did the Clinton Crime legacy.

What next ?

what would happen if one of the presidential candidates were to die or become otherwise incapacitated before Election Day: Would Pense or Kaine assume the nomination?

Not necessarily. Each party has its own protocol for this scenario, but in neither case does the running mate automatically take over the ticket. If Pense were to die before the election, the rules of the Republican Party authorize the Republican National Committee to fill the vacancy, either by reconvening a national convention or by having RNC state representatives vote. The new nominee must receive a majority vote to officially become the party candidate. If illary were to die before the election, the Democratic Party's charter and bylaws state that responsibility for filling that vacancy would fall to the Democratic National Committee, but the rules do not specify how exactly the DNC would go about doing that. (Congress could also pass a special statute and push back Election Day, giving the dead candidate's party time to regroup.)

What happens if the party doesn't have time to select and endorse a new candidate? In 2000, Akhil Reed Amar outlined for Slate some of the head-scratching scenarios that might occur if a candidate died just before the election, without enough time to prep new ballots or to decide how votes should be counted.

The outcome would be a little more straightforward—though not necessarily more politically satisfying—if the candidate dies between the general election on Nov. 4 but before the Electoral College votes on Dec. 15. There's no federal law that mandates how electors must cast their votes; theoretically, if the candidate to whom they were pledged dies and their party has not made a preferred successor clear, electors can vote for their party's VP candidate, a third-party candidate, or a leading preconvention contender within their own party. Under this scenario, however, individual state laws have the potential to make things murky, given that each state has the power to determine exactly how its electoral votes are to be cast and distributed.

Bonus Explainer: What if the candidate dies after the election but before the inauguration on Jan. 20? The 20th Amendment states that if the president-elect dies before beginning his term, then the vice president-elect assumes his or her spot. However, the point at which a candidate officially becomes "president-elect" is debatable. He or she definitely assumes the title after Jan. 6, when a joint session of Congress officially counts the Electoral College votes and declares a winner. But the shift could be said to occur immediately after the Electoral College vote. (See Pages 2 and 3 of this PDF article from the Arkansas Law Review.)

If a candidate dies after Dec. 15 but before Jan. 6, Congress, when it convenes, has to decide whether to count the votes cast for him. (In 1872, three electoral votes cast for the late Horace Greeley were discounted by Congress, but it's unclear whether votes cast for a living candidate who subsequently dies would be treated the same way.)

If Congress decides the votes are valid, then the laws of presidential succession kick in, and that candidate's running mate moves up the ladder. If Congress decides to throw out the votes, then the question becomes whether the living candidate can be said to have a majority of the overall electoral votes—if not, then, according to the 12th Amendment, the House of Representatives must elect the president from among the three candidates with the most votes.

Thanks! Great reply
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Post: #23
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
Skyrison  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:51 PM)
She deservers all that is happening and is going to happen to her. I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. After all she has done, she made her sh*t stain bed. Now she has to lay in it.

Could not agree more with you!
DanfromtheHills
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09-11-2016 10:01 PM

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Post: #24
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
Depends on where she is in the election process.

If she is already president, it could be the VP or The First Lady who serves out the remainder of the term.

Bill Clinton might already be excluded though, as he has already served two terms.

19 Arabs, with boxcutters.
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Post: #25
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-11-2016 09:46 PM)
Quote:If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?

Standard protocol is a wake, a funeral, a burial, a party, and then everyone in her will gets to dig through her sh*t .. if not Bill.

It's possible that she will enter the hospital where she will die, then be quietly disposed of. What will emerge to take her place in the land of the living will be her clone.
ObtuseObserver
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09-11-2016 10:32 PM

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Post: #26
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
if within 30 days of election Kaine becomes Nominee automatically
if more than 30 days DNC holds a phone/digital based convention to select a new candidate.
pBrane
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09-11-2016 10:35 PM

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Post: #27
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-11-2016 10:07 PM)
Quote:
If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?

drinks in [email protected] , party starts 11.

The undead that now inhabits US journalism just plunged another wooden stake through its own heart - David Guyatt.
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Post: #28
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
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Post: #29
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
BBQ at EAT's house?
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Post: #30
RE: If Hillary dies, what's the Protocol?
Obama is declared Caesar and he wears a laurel with his business suit.
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