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Hurricane Michael
Felix
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Post: #361
RE: Hurricane Michael
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We tried to get into PC to help with cleanup but they won't let us... yet

Jackson county's shelters have run out of food and water. Red Cross and FEMA have not made their way into Jackson county yet!

This is a high population of poor people. So it looks like we are going there.

On a side note they are looking for people to pay from 1,500 to 2,000 a week to help clean up PC.

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Felix
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Post: #362
RE: Hurricane Michael
I would love to go out and make that money but me and my business partner are kind of tied down with our customers for the month.

That could have been my big break:/

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10-12-2018 08:20 PM

 



Post: #363
RE: Hurricane Michael
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2018 04:28 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2018 02:36 AM)
Aerial view shows catastrophic damage from Hurricane Michael







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m_F0XxtstU

This is not wind damage. This is storm surge. People losing their minds looking at the pictures of destruction but what they should have been losing their minds over is the mind numbing stupidity to build on a sand bar and then dig canals through it to park your boat next to your beach cottage.

This is not owed to the power of any one storm but rather the damaging force of water when a storm rides in on high tide at -0- elevation with King Tides.
Did you know there were flood waters that morning on the West Coast of Florida where no storm hit?
There is tremendous damage inland and a path through Georgia and other states and they are not worrying that it's only a Cat 1. Any time you have 70 mph winds sitting and spinning on you property you are going to have damage and danger.

Yeah people build in the worst places and will probably build there again. It will be interesting to see if they can get insurance to do so or see how expensive it will be.
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Felix
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Post: #364
RE: Hurricane Michael
We were just told any cleanup help we do, we can claim with FEMA for money, as long as we document everything we do.

I guess we will be in Jackson county for the weekend. We were told they have heavy equipment there but not enough people to help.

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Felix
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Post: #365
RE: Hurricane Michael
The mayor of Freeport is organizing a caravan that is leaving tomorrow morning for Jackson county. They were going to leave on Monday but we convinced them that we need to go NOW.

We are meeting up at the Freeport city hall at 7am.

Road trip!!! chuckle

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Sarah
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10-13-2018 12:25 AM

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Post: #366
RE: Hurricane Michael
Good on you, Felix, for helping with the cleanup. Good luck and Godspeed.
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Felix
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Post: #367
RE: Hurricane Michael
Sarah  Wrote: (10-13-2018 12:25 AM)
Good on you, Felix, for helping with the cleanup. Good luck and Godspeed.

Thanks Sarah:)

Also just found out the add on FB looking to pay people between $1,500 and $2,000 a week for cleanup was fraudulent.

It pops up after every big hurricane. They want to steal your identity! People are fuked up these days.

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Post: #368
RE: Hurricane Michael
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2018 08:20 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2018 04:28 AM)
This is not wind damage. This is storm surge. People losing their minds looking at the pictures of destruction but what they should have been losing their minds over is the mind numbing stupidity to build on a sand bar and then dig canals through it to park your boat next to your beach cottage.

This is not owed to the power of any one storm but rather the damaging force of water when a storm rides in on high tide at -0- elevation with King Tides.
Did you know there were flood waters that morning on the West Coast of Florida where no storm hit?
There is tremendous damage inland and a path through Georgia and other states and they are not worrying that it's only a Cat 1. Any time you have 70 mph winds sitting and spinning on you property you are going to have damage and danger.

Yeah people build in the worst places and will probably build there again. It will be interesting to see if they can get insurance to do so or see how expensive it will be.

After a huge storm, FEMA does an assessment on whether you can or can't rebuild. If they say you can, yeah your insurance goes up.
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10-13-2018 05:15 AM

 



Post: #369
RE: Hurricane Michael
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2018 02:53 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2018 08:20 PM)
Yeah people build in the worst places and will probably build there again. It will be interesting to see if they can get insurance to do so or see how expensive it will be.

After a huge storm, FEMA does an assessment on whether you can or can't rebuild. If they say you can, yeah your insurance goes up.

I live on the East Coast. We had a huge battle here over building on a spit like that.
There was a huge blowback of having a big rich realty company put condos on what is in reality shifting sands. So, are a lot of beachside properties. Mexico Beach looks like a product of natural sand bar build up and then back in the 60s or 70s somebody saw potential and bought it cheap. Then had dredge spoil pumped onto it to make it a little higher with the canal construction. A precarious webwork of canals to use sand taken from them to give the surrounding area a little bit more substance.
There are no other towns or properties nearby and is adjacent to a military installation with names like Tate's Hell Nates Hell or something like that.
Because this is basically like a swampy bayou.
No vacation resort town should have been built there.

From what I've been told, depending on your elevation your yearly flood insurance premiums could be 10 grand a year! And then, if your home is flooded or washed away, the payout is a maximum of $250,000. YOU have to pay off your mortgage in excess of this. The reason is to be a deterrent to foolish people building on shifting sands and tides.

Now, for the people crying about the poor peeps on Mexico Beach, I doubt these were workaday homeowners there, but rather property belonging to major realty management who arrange time shares, vacation rentals, and resort hotel operations with businesses and restaurants to cater to them.
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Post: #370
RE: Hurricane Michael
Fu King  Wrote: (10-12-2018 03:12 PM)
GREY LENSMAN  Wrote: (10-12-2018 12:25 PM)
CAT 1

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Recorded sustained wind speeds are consistently below hurricane threshold. Gusts are not part of the Saffir-Simpson wind scale.
Tyndall AFB was in direct path of the highest winds, confirmed by post storm photos. The Tyndall AFB tower station SGOF1 is a few miles offshore with anemometer at 35 meters above sea level. That shows a smooth increase in sustained winds reaching 61 knots at the peak of the storm. Hurricane threshold is 64 knots.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

Tyndall station is not exceptional, all other land based stations near the landfall, such as Panama City Beach, Apalachicola, etc all recorded sustained winds consistent with SGOF1.
Watching the Tallahassee airport station was in direct path of the storm, a few miles inland.
Recorded sustained winds in real time show 40 knot range, significantly less than at shore.
At the same time, the National Hurricane Center was saying the storm was Category 3, which is rediculous.
Winds monitored by Windfinder also show no hurricane winds anywhere during the storm.
Offshore NDBC buoys show lower winds than at landfall.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/11/t...f-weather/

UNQUOTE

THATS WHY THE SUDDEN SILENCE.

CONCRETE IS CHEAP. USE IT

GL

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I think Windy.com had a reading at the peak of 81kts. Far below the yammering of nonstop weather trolls on tv.

That you for posting this. I've been saying this as well as others when people see the images.
You can't get through to them what they are seeing is storm surge damage from water, not high winds. The wind only affected poor construction below hurricane standard. And we can see plenty of that.

The problem is this was "land" and I use the term loosely, that should never have been built on and I doubt will be rebuilt in future. This is beach sand which can not be stabilized and a tidal surge of 3', 5', 9' or more is going to increase the damage done the higher it goes!
But, the media doesn't want to blame poor building standards because there are SOOOO many hotels and houses built right on the beach all over the country.
They'd rather blame the storm.
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