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Michael Mann: We Are Even Closer To Climate Disaster Than IPCC Predicts
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Australia is to blame.
High crime and no emission standards coming from south of the equator. An island of criminals doing criminal things and blaming everyone else.
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Yep, IT’S OUR LAST CHANCE!!!!

Until our next chance.

I’ll make a prediction. They will keep telling us it is the end, all decade long and then they will figure out it is in another 20 and THAT will also be our last chance until the next time.

This was a scheme to get America’s money redistributed to 3rd world countries. How does that help us, exactly?

The money is completely fake so they like to give it away to other countries
in order to have a dollar economy world-wide.

The interesting thing about these threads is the sense of mission the
'believers' feel.

People who probably would deny having a religion have a religious
zeal to convert others to their creed.
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What? Michael Mann isn't in jail yet?

For folks who don't know who (or better still what) Michael Mann is, google climategate.

What a scumbag.
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Here is the funny part. Religion thinks God is mad so religion gonna fix the world with a NWO. Making God more angry. Then they try harder and it gets worse.

Religious knuckleheads judging the world causes the worlds demise.

Jesus is king. Read the Bible.
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Quote:Now joining us to talk about this is seminal climate scientist Michael Mann. Michael Mann is a distinguished professor and director of the Earth Science Systems Science Center at Penn State University. He’s the author of several books, perhaps most famously in 2012 The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars, and most recently The Tantrum that Saved the World, a children’s book on climate change which he coauthored with Megan Herbert. Thanks for joining us today.

MICHAEL MANN: Thank you. Good to be with you.

DHARNA NOOR: So, Michael, you’ve been raising the alarm about climate change for decades. Talk about the significance of this IPCC report. The Paris climate accord years ago actually set 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels as an aspirational target, but this report makes it seem like that target is nowhere near enough.

MICHAEL MANN: Yeah, and In fact, even this report is overly conservative, as these IPCC reports often are. It turns out that in some ways this latest report has actually understated the amount of warming that we’ve already experienced because of the burning of fossil fuels and the increase in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. And so arguably we are actually closer to those 1.5 degrees Celsius and 2.0 Celsius thresholds, temperature thresholds, that are discussed in the report. We’re probably closer to them than the report implies. We probably have less carbon left to burn if we are to avoid crossing those thresholds.

DHARNA NOOR: But 1.5 degrees seems like such a tiny increase. Explain the history and significance of that figure, the 1.5 degree rise in temperature above pre-industrial levels, and how much worse would 2 degrees be than that?

MICHAEL MANN: Yeah, so 1.5 degrees Celsius warming over the time scale of a century is unprecedented. As far back as we can go, we have not seen rates of warming that large. And in fact, the level of warmth that we’ve now reached is unprecedented in tens of thousands of years. So even what might seem like a modest amount of warming can be profound from the impacts that that warming can have.

Just think about this. The warming that we’ve already experienced is more than halfway, it’s more than halfway from the warming between the last ice age and the modern pre-industrial climate. So we’ve already warmed the climate half as much as it warmed coming out of the last ice age. And that has implications for the melting of ice. We are inching ever closer to crossing key thresholds where we basically lock in the melting of large parts of the West Antarctic ice sheet, and potentially even the Greenland ice sheet, enough ice to give us not feet but metres of sea level rise in the centuries ahead. For every half a degree Celsius warming of the ocean surface, we increase the destructive potential of hurricanes by more than 10 per cent; closer to 15 percent. That’s a large enough signal that you can see it in the data. We can see it playing out. And when it comes to extreme weather in general, unprecedented floods and heat waves and wildfires and droughts like we have seen over the past few years, that is the face of climate change. It’s no longer subtle.

And that’s just 1.5 degrees Celsius. Every additional half a degree Celsius locks in more destructive, more extreme weather events, more melting of ice more sea level rise, and 2 degrees Celsius might be enough to basically destroy the world’s coral reefs. We’re inching ever closer to that threshold.

DHARNA NOOR: You mentioned that you thought that these IPCC scientists might have been too conservative in their estimates. And in coverage of this report of this IPCC report several outlets- the New York Times, Business Insider- are saying that we’re on track to reach 1.5 degrees by 2040, not 2030. So we’re seeing even more conservative estimates from the coverage of the report than is in the report itself. Can you talk about this a little bit?

MICHAEL MANN: Yeah. I think it’s sort of a bad game of telephone where, you know, parts of the report have been translated for the purpose of the summary for policymakers. And then there are press releases that have been sent out. And there’s been a lot of nuance that has been lost in translation, as it were. I also pointed out that the IPCC made a number of extremely conservative- I would argue overly conservative- decisions in how they measure the warming that has already happened. And by doing that they underestimate how close we are to these 1.5 degree Celsius and 2 degrees Celsius thresholds. And they overestimate how much carbon we have left to burn.

If you look, for example, at the Northern Hemisphere, which is where most of us live, and you ask the question when do we cross the 2 degree warming- 2 degree Celsius warming- threshold for the Northern Hemisphere if we continue with business as usual burning of fossil fuels? I showed in an article several years ago in Scientific American we crossed that threshold before 2040, in the late 2030s. So we are on the way, on our way to blowing past the 1.5 degree Celsius mark and crossing the 2 degrees Celsius threshold in a matter of, you know, depending on how you define it, it really doesn’t matter. Is it two decades, is it three decades, it hardly matters. In order to avoid crossing those thresholds we need to bring our emissions down dramatically. Arguably more dramatically than implied in this latest IPCC report.

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FLASHBACK: ABC News Warns NYC Will Be Under Water by 2015 Due to Global Warming and Polar Bears Will Fall From Sky

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FLASHBACK: ABC's ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-...hange-june
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You gotta ask why the Big Oil shills are ALL over this thread....
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You gotta ask why the Big Oil shills are ALL over this thread....

You gotta ask why you have to use a VPN to derp your thread AC.
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$27,000 a gallon gas tax for all!!!!
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You gotta ask why the Big Oil shills are ALL over this thread....

You gotta ask why you have to use a VPN to derp your thread AC.

Ask a mod...this ain't no VPN, but you can think that if that's the next balloon in your shill flow chart
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You gotta ask why the Big Oil shills are ALL over this thread....

They hide under your bed.

Be sure to sleep with the lights on, Timmy.
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ac wall of text scum!

Make the world a better place.

Eat some cyanide.
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