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Logical Fallacies That Dumb People Use To Win Arguments, And How To Spot Them
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NancyLuna  Wrote: (10-21-2018 03:20 PM)
A fallacy is the use of invalid and unreasonable facts, that most people use during an argument to defeat their opponents. All fallacious people use personal attacks and illogical facts to deceive other people, they are always afraid to accept the truth. We encounter these people every day.

https://www.hankermag.com/invalid-argume...fallacies/

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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (11-08-2018 05:51 PM)
He says this tendency towards disagreement is structurally built into the online experience because in disagreeing, people tend to have much more to say than if they just expressed that they agreed. Interestingly, Graham points out that, even though it might feel like it if you spend much time in comment sections, the world is not necessarily getting angrier. But it could if we don’t observe a certain restraint in how we disagree. To disagree better, which will lead to better conversations and happier outcomes, Graham came up with these seven levels of a disagreement hierarchy (DH):
DH0. Name-calling
DH1. Ad hominem
DH3. Contradiction
DH4. Counterargument
DH5. Refutation
DH6. Refuting the Central Point.

http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html

chuckle

you do all of those things all the time

You just did DH1.

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NancyLuna  Wrote: (10-21-2018 03:20 PM)
A fallacy is the use of invalid and unreasonable facts, that most people use during an argument to defeat their opponents. All fallacious people use personal attacks and illogical facts to deceive other people, they are always afraid to accept the truth. We encounter these people every day.

https://www.hankermag.com/invalid-argume...fallacies/

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Http://yourbias.is as well for actual biases. Not the made up ones from the GOP.

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Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (11-09-2018 03:21 AM)
NancyLuna  Wrote: (10-21-2018 03:20 PM)
A fallacy is the use of invalid and unreasonable facts, that most people use during an argument to defeat their opponents. All fallacious people use personal attacks and illogical facts to deceive other people, they are always afraid to accept the truth. We encounter these people every day.

https://www.hankermag.com/invalid-argume...fallacies/

Jptdknpa

Http://yourbias.is as well for actual biases. Not the made up ones from the GOP.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com , is also good

as is this article link from the site you linked

  • Modeling

    (1) Thought Experiment — “considers some hypothesis, theory, or principle for the purpose of thinking through its consequences.” (related: counterfactual thinking)
    (1) Systems Thinking — “By taking the overall system as well as its parts into account systems thinking is designed to avoid potentially contributing to further development of unintended consequences.” (related: causal loop diagrams; stock and flow; Le Chatelier’s principle, hysteresis — “the time-based dependence of a system’s output on present and past inputs.”; “Can’t see the forest for the trees.”)
    (1) Scenario Analysis — “A process of analyzing possible future events by considering alternative possible outcomes.” (related: “Skate to where the puck is going.”; black swan theory — “a metaphor that describes an event that comes as a surprise, has a major effect, and is often inappropriately rationalized after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.”)
    (1) Power-law — “A functional relationship between two quantities, where a relative change in one quantity results in a proportional relative change in the other quantity, independent of the initial size of those quantities: one quantity varies as a power of another.” (related: Pareto distribution; Pareto principle — “for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes.”, diminishing returns, premature optimization, heavy-tailed distribution, fat-tailed distribution; long tail — “the portion of the distribution having a large number of occurrences far from the “head” or central part of the distribution.”; black swan theory — “a metaphor that describes an event that comes as a surprise, has a major effect, and is often inappropriately rationalized after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.”)
    (1) Normal Distribution — “A very common continuous probability distribution…Physical quantities that are expected to be the sum of many independent processes (such as measurement errors) often have distributions that are nearly normal.” (related: central limit theorem)
    (1) Sensitivity Analysis — “The study of how the uncertainty in the output of a mathematical model or system (numerical or otherwise) can be apportioned to different sources of uncertainty in its inputs.”
    (1) Cost-benefit Analysis — “A systematic approach to estimating the strengths and weaknesses of alternatives that satisfy transactions, activities or functional requirements for a business.” (related: net present value — “a measurement of the profitability of an undertaking that is calculated by subtracting the present values of cash outflows (including initial cost) from the present values of cash inflows over a period of time.”, discount rate)
    (3) Simulation — “The imitation of the operation of a real-world process or system over time.” (related: Queuing theory — “the mathematical study of waiting lines, or queues.”)
    (3) Pareto Efficiency — “A state of allocation of resources in which it is impossible to make any one individual better off without making at least one individual worse off…A Pareto improvement is defined to be a change to a different allocation that makes at least one individual better off without making any other individual worse off, given a certain initial allocation of goods among a set of individuals.”


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