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Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
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Post: #46
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 07:51 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 07:46 PM)
Oh Wait! Dailymail, of course it's B.s. Fake News.

This site is known for blatant tabloid propaganda.

Please file charges against this organization for lying and promoting FAKE NEWS

Do you believe everything you read, or do you pick and chose what you like?

Lmao

i believe what I've researched and what I've experienced and know to be fact.

This story I know for a fact is false.

I'm over 50 and have used cannabis heavily, daily for decades. I have numerous, qualifying conditions and can't function at all without it. I have below normal BP for my age, never had a heart related issue, and I am lean, fit, and rock solid as well as being a representative of the "other 1%", those with intellectual wealth.

Unfortunately, I can't share that 1% with those of you in need. I can only bring some facts for you to consider.

Fire of Prometheus
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03-19-2017 08:08 PM

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Post: #47
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:01 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 07:36 PM)
Oxford University to launch multimillion-dollar medical marijuana research program

... to find ways of developing new treatments for those suffering with pain, cancer and inflammatory disease.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/16/oxford-un...ramme.html

Yes, these researchers wouldn't touch it if the trade-off was death by heart attack.

Countless, very ill and terminal people with severely compromised immune systems, chemo-therapy damaged organs, including hearts, use this substance and can tolerate no other.

This claim has no merit, no basis in fact. How can any organization make such blatantly false statements?

Opioids have been killing people for a very long time, but they always find new ways to process it and praise the new variety as safe, non addictive etc. Heroine, Morphine, Vicodin etc. a hundred years of R&D.
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Post: #48
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:06 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 07:51 PM)
Do you believe everything you read, or do you pick and chose what you like?

Lmao

i believe what I've researched and what I've experienced and know to be fact.

This story I know for a fact is false.

I'm over 50 and have used cannabis heavily, daily for decades. I have numerous, qualifying conditions and can't function at all without it. I have below normal BP for my age, never had a heart related issue, and I am lean, fit, and rock solid as well as being a representative of the "other 1%", those with intellectual wealth.

Unfortunately, I can't share that 1% with those of you in need. I can only bring some facts for you to consider.

Its like people who smoke cigarettes and live into the 90s +.
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03-19-2017 08:11 PM

 



Post: #49
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (03-19-2017 07:59 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 07:54 PM)
B U L L S H I T FAKE NEWS STRAVAGANZE.

Cannibis is a plant that heals.

Burn any plant and look at the tar from the smoke it always contains polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.
I agree with you, but if polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons don't cause issues when generated by marijuana they wont when generated by tobacco or red meat either.

Not necessarily, cannabis is a potent anti-oxidant. The US gov holds patent for cannabis as an anti-oxidant among other known benefits.

They keep it illegal while big pharma plays with synthesizing analogs in hopes they can patent a synthetic and keep the plant down, but the synthetics invariably cause rapid dependence, addiction, heart problems, anxiety attacks, and more, some might even cause cancer while cannabis, in its natural state causes apoptosis in cancer cells.

Until, they patent something, or realize they can't develop a synthetic that works, we will deal with this regulation, unless everyone learns the truth and acts to liberate this plant.
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03-19-2017 08:20 PM

 



Post: #50
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:09 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:06 PM)
i believe what I've researched and what I've experienced and know to be fact.

This story I know for a fact is false.

I'm over 50 and have used cannabis heavily, daily for decades. I have numerous, qualifying conditions and can't function at all without it. I have below normal BP for my age, never had a heart related issue, and I am lean, fit, and rock solid as well as being a representative of the "other 1%", those with intellectual wealth.

Unfortunately, I can't share that 1% with those of you in need. I can only bring some facts for you to consider.

Its like people who smoke cigarettes and live into the 90s +.
No, cigarettes do cause COPD, heart disease, and other problems, and might cause cancer. They are a toxic stew of hundreds of added ingredients.

I have watched them kill more family members than I can remember, and friends' families too. Alcohol often plays a part.

Cannabis, curiously, does not cause emphysema and has never been associated with lung cancer.
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Post: #51
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:11 PM)
Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (03-19-2017 07:59 PM)
Burn any plant and look at the tar from the smoke it always contains polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.
I agree with you, but if polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons don't cause issues when generated by marijuana they wont when generated by tobacco or red meat either.

Not necessarily, cannabis is a potent anti-oxidant. The US gov holds patent for cannabis as an anti-oxidant among other known benefits.

They keep it illegal while big pharma plays with synthesizing analogs in hopes they can patent a synthetic and keep the plant down, but the synthetics invariably cause rapid dependence, addiction, heart problems, anxiety attacks, and more, some might even cause cancer while cannabis, in its natural state causes apoptosis in cancer cells.

Until, they patent something, or realize they can't develop a synthetic that works, we will deal with this regulation, unless everyone learns the truth and acts to liberate this plant.

Do you know what an antioxidant is?
Here is a hint Carbon Monoxide is an antioxidant.
Tobacco smoke and marijuana smoke both contain carbon monoxide.
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03-19-2017 08:36 PM

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Post: #52
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:20 PM)
Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:09 PM)
Its like people who smoke cigarettes and live into the 90s +.
No, cigarettes do cause COPD, heart disease, and other problems, and might cause cancer. They are a toxic stew of hundreds of added ingredients.

I have watched them kill more family members than I can remember, and friends' families too. Alcohol often plays a part.

Cannabis, curiously, does not cause emphysema and has never been associated with lung cancer.

People have been dying of fentenyl around here, and now people are putting it in marijuana.
The dealers manipulate the additives of marijuana more than the cigarette companies manipulate tobacco additives and the FDA regulates what additives tobacco companies can use.
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03-19-2017 08:39 PM

 



Post: #53
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
Listen,

Some of that stuff is just uncomfortably potent. Way way to strong.


This is coming from a guy who has partied with the best of em.
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03-19-2017 09:36 PM

 



Post: #54
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
yeah but its overlayed factors.

hate to say it but yes pot does make you lazy (if you let it, and many do)

makes you eat more fast food, much more
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03-19-2017 09:57 PM

 



Post: #55
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:08 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:01 PM)
Yes, these researchers wouldn't touch it if the trade-off was death by heart attack.

Countless, very ill and terminal people with severely compromised immune systems, chemo-therapy damaged organs, including hearts, use this substance and can tolerate no other.

This claim has no merit, no basis in fact. How can any organization make such blatantly false statements?

Opioids have been killing people for a very long time, but they always find new ways to process it and praise the new variety as safe, non addictive etc. Heroine, Morphine, Vicodin etc. a hundred years of R&D.

Opioids are highly effective when used properly. Addicts die regularly due to overdose, and that is often due to variable quality in street narcotics. Pill popping addicts are more likely to develop tolerance and poison themselves by acetaminophen damage when they get into multiple pill dosages.

Many people's lives are benefited by opiates but they are a short term solution and they can destroy you in the process.

In contrast, cannabis CAN'T kill at any possible dosage one could consume, not even when concentrated into hash oil. It is a very potent and neuro-protective compound as demonstrated by rat studies where the brainwas irrigated in THC and instead of any damage, it actually prevented damage for an extended period.

Through this research it has become known that stroke victims and other with brain damage may benefit from cannabis therapy. This research has led itno many areas and now it has been shown that some types of cannabis do prevent Alzheimer's, diabetes, combat obesity, prevent seizures better than accepted treatments, and more. There is, in fact, prior research which refutes this story and shows cannabis lowers BP and stress and reduces heart attack risk. It also dilates vessel providing increased flow to tissues and relieving strain on the heart.

The Dailymail has really sunk to a new low in Fake News with this one.

I suggest writing them to let them know they need to do a retraction and apology for this obvious propaganda.
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03-19-2017 10:05 PM

 



Post: #56
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 09:36 PM)
yeah but its overlayed factors.

hate to say it but yes pot does make you lazy (if you let it, and many do)

makes you eat more fast food, much more

Stereotype much?

This is pure propaganda also. If you want to smoke and chill out you can. Most cannabis is relaxing, but it isn't necessary.
Many people smoke from dawn till dusk and outperform 3 average people who are often plenty lazy with no substances at all or in spite of tons of stimulants.

Cheech and Chong were controled propaganda promoting a stoner stereotype that is far from reality.

In fact, they really promoted an all out drug lifestyle which is not what a cannabis smoker does.

Despite gateway propaganda and other nonsense, cannabis users usually are pretty exclusive and very rarely do stimulants or opiates and enjoy alcohol in moderation if at all.

Medicinal users don't do street drugs at all in the vast majority of cases. They are cut off from that element entirely.

I NEVER eat fast food.
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03-19-2017 10:07 PM

 



Post: #57
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:33 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 08:11 PM)
Not necessarily, cannabis is a potent anti-oxidant. The US gov holds patent for cannabis as an anti-oxidant among other known benefits.

They keep it illegal while big pharma plays with synthesizing analogs in hopes they can patent a synthetic and keep the plant down, but the synthetics invariably cause rapid dependence, addiction, heart problems, anxiety attacks, and more, some might even cause cancer while cannabis, in its natural state causes apoptosis in cancer cells.

Until, they patent something, or realize they can't develop a synthetic that works, we will deal with this regulation, unless everyone learns the truth and acts to liberate this plant.

Do you know what an antioxidant is?
Here is a hint Carbon Monoxide is an antioxidant.
Tobacco smoke and marijuana smoke both contain carbon monoxide.

Sorry, your capacity has long been exceeded. You have proven yourself ignorant and irrelevant.

CO, you are a fool. This is not related in any way to the proven, and patented anti-oxidant value of cannabis.

Retard somewhere else, please.
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03-19-2017 11:52 PM

 



Post: #58
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 04:24 PM)
This is the Big One!




Cannabis users 'are four times more likely to suffer a heart attack': Scientists say users suffer more cardiac-related illness than those who do not smoke the drug

• Users in their late 20s were three times more likely to have a cardiac illness
• Most concerns over cannabis use are associated with mental health disorders
• Researchers in Ohio said users are tend to have higher blood pressures

18 March 2017
Smoking cannabis dramatically increases a person’s risk of suffering a heart attack, according to a major new study. Researchers in the United States found that, over a five-year period, regular users in their early 30s were 4.6 times more likely to have a cardiac-related illness than those who did not smoke the drug.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/articl...ttack.html

Actually, that's the TOBACCO causing that. And if you spread this propaganda i will do a full report on the damage caused by tobacco companies.

Marijuana has been proven to repair the lungs and cellular damage slowly over time.

Smoking is still not good for your health though!

Oils and vapes ftw.
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03-19-2017 11:53 PM

 



Post: #59
RE: Pot Smokers are More Likely To Suffer Heart Attack
". Researchers in the United States "
"Daily mail"

Hahahahahahahaha!

Big pharma and/or big tobacco is at it again huh?









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