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Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
Damrod
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
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livingwaters  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:52 PM)
Damrod  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:50 PM)
Read Leviticus.

It is "the Law"...

yes...that is what it means....

It does NOT encourage slavery. Every nation on earth has slaves at one point or another and every race on earth has been in slavery at one point or another.

The rules applied to that time, when people did have slaves.

But it also ties into more.....and Jesus talked a lot about it.

I didn't mean it condoned slavery I meant to read Leviticus...."Leviticus" literally means...the law.

There are a lot more laws than 10

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson

"Liberty means responsibility, which is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw

"Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotism"...Aristotle

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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?

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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:36 PM)
I don't covet any of my neighbor's wives, male or female slaves, oxen or donkeys. But this commandment presumes slavery is an ongoing gig. As well as multiple wives.

But that's how the TENTH COMMANDMENT reads. It one of the biggies. Top Ten in the hit parade.

Definitely not a moral code.

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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
Damrod  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:55 PM)
livingwaters  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:52 PM)
It does NOT encourage slavery. Every nation on earth has slaves at one point or another and every race on earth has been in slavery at one point or another.

The rules applied to that time, when people did have slaves.

But it also ties into more.....and Jesus talked a lot about it.

I didn't mean it condoned slavery I meant to read Leviticus...."Leviticus" literally means...the law.

There are a lot more laws than 10


Yes, I know this, there are also statutes, judgement and decrees. I just has an entire conversation or debate with someone over this....today.

Are you a full bible sturdier? I hope so, you don't meet many these days.

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. His name is Jesus. Acts 4:12
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
Strategos  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:57 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:36 PM)
I don't covet any of my neighbor's wives, male or female slaves, oxen or donkeys. But this commandment presumes slavery is an ongoing gig. As well as multiple wives.

But that's how the TENTH COMMANDMENT reads. It one of the biggies. Top Ten in the hit parade.

Definitely not a moral code.

That's so not true.

God wanted people, especially kings to have only one husband and one wife. It goes back to Genesis....with Adam and Eve.
King Solomon went against that command, he had 700 wives and three hundred concubines, and even in all his wisdom, he broke another command and worshiped the gods of his wives.

Deuteronomy 17:17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. His name is Jesus. Acts 4:12
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017 11:05 PM by livingwaters.)
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Post: #21
RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
livingwaters  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:51 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:43 PM)
Did you read all 613 of them? There are instructions on HOW TO TREAT YOU SLAVES.

Get back to us after your rundown.

Yes, I've read every one of them....many times.

They had servants or slaves...and there were rules about how to treat them. That doesn't sanction slavery.

Like M said, everyone is a slave to something or another. There's more truth to that than what you're trying to push.

But there is no specific commandment that says "thou shall not own slaves", just that thou shall not covet some other mans.
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Post: #22
RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
Damrod  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:55 PM)
livingwaters  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:52 PM)
It does NOT encourage slavery. Every nation on earth has slaves at one point or another and every race on earth has been in slavery at one point or another.

The rules applied to that time, when people did have slaves.

But it also ties into more.....and Jesus talked a lot about it.

I didn't mean it condoned slavery I meant to read Leviticus...."Leviticus" literally means...the law.

There are a lot more laws than 10

I didn't mean it condoned it either. I said "sanctioned". I was very careful in my terminology for a reason.
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 11:03 PM)
livingwaters  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:51 PM)
Yes, I've read every one of them....many times.

They had servants or slaves...and there were rules about how to treat them. That doesn't sanction slavery.

Like M said, everyone is a slave to something or another. There's more truth to that than what you're trying to push.

But there is no specific commandment that says "thou shall not own slaves", just that thou shall not covet some other mans.

Durring that time having servants was common. Even in early America people had servants. Every nation on earth has at one point in time or another.

Do you really have to find something that says "don't have slaves," to make a point? Do you see Christians going around looking for slaves? lol No...

If you read through the law, you'd know that those who were servants in Israel were to be treated well. And they were also set free after seven years.

Out of all the nations that had slavery, they did have some rules.

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. His name is Jesus. Acts 4:12
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017 11:11 PM by livingwaters.)
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
I think we are all slaves to our belongings. As we move through this life, our burden gets heavier. I struggle now to cast-off my burdens. Sell what I can, give away the rest. I've possessed so many wonderful things, yet they are a burden. Might as well be a millstone around my neck.

It's good to be free.
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:36 PM)
I don't covet any of my neighbor's wives, male or female slaves, oxen or donkeys. But this commandment presumes slavery is an ongoing gig. As well as multiple wives.

But that's how the TENTH COMMANDMENT reads. It one of the biggies. Top Ten in the hit parade.

Only a complete moron would equate the two.

That phrase admits something is happening it doesn't condone it. Are you really that stupid?

If you want to learn about slavery read the Talmud!
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
For example, I'd trade a Jackson Pollak painting for a large veggie pizza. And know I got the better deal.
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Post: #27
RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 11:03 PM)
livingwaters  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:51 PM)
Yes, I've read every one of them....many times.

They had servants or slaves...and there were rules about how to treat them. That doesn't sanction slavery.

Like M said, everyone is a slave to something or another. There's more truth to that than what you're trying to push.

But there is no specific commandment that says "thou shall not own slaves", just that thou shall not covet some other mans.


The Old Testament is Jewish, those commandments while wise, only pertain to them, so rabbis claim. Except for the first 7 commandments, which bans Christian worship and belief as 'Idolatry' and punishable by death of decapitation or fire.

Their other books claim non Jews are not human, merely beasts to be used as Jews so choose. In other words, non Jews are all slaves, made only to serve the Jew.

There's much that must be considered in context.

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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 11:10 PM)
I think we are all slaves to our belongings. As we move through this life, our burden gets heavier. I struggle now to cast-off my burdens. Sell what I can, give away the rest. I've possessed so many wonderful things, yet they are a burden. Might as well be a millstone around my neck.

It's good to be free.

You have a good point. People want more and more, and then they are slaves to pay for it all.

I know an elderly woman who sold everything she had and now only has a place to sleep and a place to eat. She doesn't even have pictures on her walls, because all that stuff becomes burdensome, even to clean and dust is difficult for an older person.

That seems to be when most people realize what's really important, when they hit a certain age.

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. His name is Jesus. Acts 4:12
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017 11:16 PM by livingwaters.)
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
ChuckleKnuckle  Wrote: (03-19-2017 11:12 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 10:36 PM)
I don't covet any of my neighbor's wives, male or female slaves, oxen or donkeys. But this commandment presumes slavery is an ongoing gig. As well as multiple wives.

But that's how the TENTH COMMANDMENT reads. It one of the biggies. Top Ten in the hit parade.

Only a complete moron would equate the two.

That phrase admits something is happening it doesn't condone it. Are you really that stupid?

If you want to learn about slavery read the Talmud!

You wrong infer that I condone it. You also wrongly presume I'm stupid. Sermon on the mount covers this situation.
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RE: Is Slavery Sanctioned in the TENTH COMMANDMENT?
Archangel  Wrote: (03-19-2017 11:15 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-19-2017 11:03 PM)
But there is no specific commandment that says "thou shall not own slaves", just that thou shall not covet some other mans.


The Old Testament is Jewish, those commandments while wise, only pertain to them, so rabbis claim. Except for the first 7 commandments, which bans Christian worship and belief as 'Idolatry' and punishable by death of decapitation or fire.

Their other books claim non Jews are not human, merely beasts to be used as Jews so choose. In other words, non Jews are all slaves, made only to serve the Jew.

There's much that must be considered in context.

Oh that's not true. The OT is also Christian, every single christian church teaches about the great flood, and Noah's ark, the ten commandments, Abraham's journey, Moses on Mount Sinai, and so much more.

Jesus quoted the OT hundreds of time, as did Paul and Peter. The ten commandments are even contained in the NT...EVERY ONE OF THEM.

The bible is ONE book, not two...it all goes together. Read Isaiah 49.

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. His name is Jesus. Acts 4:12
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017 11:21 PM by livingwaters.)
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