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Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
BlackGhost
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Post: #76
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
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Unless you could draw China off the Asian continent, then no. Historically we need to recognize we would NOT be fighting N. Korea's but a combination of Chinese and Russian troops.

In other words the war at a conventional level would be China, Russia, Iran, vs. US, Japan, India... without India the US would lose due to attrition if fought on the Asian continent. If fought on the American continent then although very long and drawn out the US would hold with or without allies, even with Iran and Russia involved.

The American scenario would have China taking Mexico out as a forward base, and to cut off any s.american support. mainly pushing south initially for control of Panama. The canal in such an instance would probably be destroyed scorched earth. denying this strategic crossing point to all sides. Russia would drop in from across Canada to create a northern shield against NATO involvement. While Iran would would play pirate in the Mediterranean, and portions of the Atlantic to limit supplies from reaching the US eastern shores.

If we get help from Japan and India... huge IF

Japan would refortify the Philippines to cut off Chinese shipping lanes, and India would split China's fighting force by attacking their southern region, and using the Central Asian force in a guerrilla type conflict. this is about as much detail as I am willing to provide on this side of the equation. but suffice it to say there are other moves available, in a conventional conflict.

in a limited nuclear exchange we can pretty much kiss the US West Coast goodbye, for China it would be a little more spread out numbers wise the US would lose roughly 30 million to about 150-200 million in China

full blown Nuclear we would be talking more along the lines of about 50-60 million survivors worldwide and expected conditions available to them.

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(This post was last modified: 03-21-2017 04:42 AM by BlackGhost.)

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Post: #77
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
BlackGhost  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:22 AM)
Unless you could draw China off the Asian continent, then no. Historically we need to recognize we would NOT be fighting N. Korea's but a combination of Chinese and Russian troops.

In other words the war at a conventional level would be China, Russia, Iran, vs. US, Japan, India... without India the US would lose due to attrition if fought on the Asian continent. If fought on the American continent then although very long and drawn out the US would hold with or without allies, even with Iran and Russia involved.

The American scenario would have China taking Mexico out as a forward base, and to cut off any s.american support. mainly pushing south initially for control of Panama. The canal in such an instance would probably be destroyed scorched earth. denying this strategic crossing point to all sides. Russia would drop in from across Canada to create a northern shield against NATO involvement. While Iran would would play pirate in the Mediterranean, and portions of the Atlantic to limit supplies from reaching the US eastern shores.

If we get help from Japan and India... huge IF

Japan would refortify the Philippines to cut of Chinese shipping lanes, and India would split China's fighting force by attacking their southern region, and using the Central Asian force in a guerrilla type conflict. this is about as much detail as I am willing to provide on this side of the equation. but suffice it to say there are other moves available, in a conventional conflict.

in a limited nuclear exchange we can pretty much kiss the US West Coast goodbye, for China it would be a little more spread out numbers wise the US would lose roughly 30 million to about 150-200 million in China

full blown Nuclear we would be talking more along the lines of about 50-60 million survivors worldwide and expected conditions available to them.

And how would China get to the Americas ?

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fnord
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Post: #78
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
I would support a war to defend the United States, as defined in the Constitution, from attackers, foreign or domestic.

I would not support any war to attack another country that has not attacked us under any circumstance.
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Post: #79
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-21-2017 12:04 AM)
Would you?

I dont think it is about NK .
Wheres the proof of the rockets landing in Japan`s waters?
North Korea is a proxy of China.These are war drums.
The real war is against Mother Russia and China.
That is world war.
That is what the New World Order establishment wants.
That is the agenda.
A collapse IS coming a war IS coming.

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BlackGhost
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Post: #80
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
Falling Down  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:26 AM)
BlackGhost  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:22 AM)
Unless you could draw China off the Asian continent, then no. Historically we need to recognize we would NOT be fighting N. Korea's but a combination of Chinese and Russian troops.

In other words the war at a conventional level would be China, Russia, Iran, vs. US, Japan, India... without India the US would lose due to attrition if fought on the Asian continent. If fought on the American continent then although very long and drawn out the US would hold with or without allies, even with Iran and Russia involved.

The American scenario would have China taking Mexico out as a forward base, and to cut off any s.american support. mainly pushing south initially for control of Panama. The canal in such an instance would probably be destroyed scorched earth. denying this strategic crossing point to all sides. Russia would drop in from across Canada to create a northern shield against NATO involvement. While Iran would would play pirate in the Mediterranean, and portions of the Atlantic to limit supplies from reaching the US eastern shores.

If we get help from Japan and India... huge IF

Japan would refortify the Philippines to cut of Chinese shipping lanes, and India would split China's fighting force by attacking their southern region, and using the Central Asian force in a guerrilla type conflict. this is about as much detail as I am willing to provide on this side of the equation. but suffice it to say there are other moves available, in a conventional conflict.

in a limited nuclear exchange we can pretty much kiss the US West Coast goodbye, for China it would be a little more spread out numbers wise the US would lose roughly 30 million to about 150-200 million in China

full blown Nuclear we would be talking more along the lines of about 50-60 million survivors worldwide and expected conditions available to them.

And how would China get to the Americas ?

There are plenty of trade ships, that hit our ports on the west coast, they also do a lot of trade thru our southern borders i.e Mexico / Brazil... Trojan Horse -- shipping and airlines coordinated for maximum effect. supply chain is already established, they also have large populations in country already.

they also have a massive labor force and manufacturing, to convert commercial vessels into something akin to a merchant marine force... while building up a navy and air force... numbers vs technology and a sustained attrition rate above 100 to 1. Like i said it depends on who has to sustain the supply chain across the pacific. China would eventually lose if they had to maintain a pacific wide supply chain.

Precisely why China is trying to draw us into a Korean conflict. We would need to hit N. Korea, retreat, and then just sit back and wait. Patience, would be the key no balls to the wall conflict on the Asian continent.

China knows the above and would need to be extremely provoked to cross the pacific.

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(This post was last modified: 03-21-2017 04:58 AM by BlackGhost.)
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Post: #81
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
BlackGhost  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:57 AM)
Falling Down  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:26 AM)
And how would China get to the Americas ?

There are plenty of trade ships, that hit our ports on the west coast, they also do a lot of trade thru our southern borders i.e Mexico / Brazil... Trojan Horse -- shipping and airlines coordinated for maximum effect. supply chain is already established, they also have large populations in country already.

they also have a massive labor force and manufacturing, to convert commercial vessels into something akin to a merchant marine force... while building up a navy and air force... numbers vs technology and a sustained attrition rate above 100 to 1. Like i said it depends on who has to sustain the supply chain across the pacific. China would eventually lose if they had to maintain a pacific wide supply chain.

Precisely why China is trying to draw us into a Korean conflict. We would need to hit N. Korea, retreat, and then just sit back and wait. Patience, would be the key no balls to the wall conflict on the Asian continent.

China knows the above and would need to be extremely provoked to cross the pacific.

Intelligence would pick up any gradual buildup.

Ever heard of the Cuban missile crisis ? When it gets close to home we don't take no sh*t .


Any move by China to send a division or army sized element . Would result in sunken Chinese ships probably all of them .

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(This post was last modified: 03-21-2017 05:07 AM by Fallingdown.)
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Post: #82
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
wildmadge!

good to hear from you. i was just passing a few suggestions to the DNI about this very subject, well, starting to get the balls rolling, anyway if nothing else.


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Post: #83
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
Falling Down  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:26 AM)
BlackGhost  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:22 AM)
Unless you could draw China off the Asian continent, then no. Historically we need to recognize we would NOT be fighting N. Korea's but a combination of Chinese and Russian troops.

In other words the war at a conventional level would be China, Russia, Iran, vs. US, Japan, India... without India the US would lose due to attrition if fought on the Asian continent. If fought on the American continent then although very long and drawn out the US would hold with or without allies, even with Iran and Russia involved.

The American scenario would have China taking Mexico out as a forward base, and to cut off any s.american support. mainly pushing south initially for control of Panama. The canal in such an instance would probably be destroyed scorched earth. denying this strategic crossing point to all sides. Russia would drop in from across Canada to create a northern shield against NATO involvement. While Iran would would play pirate in the Mediterranean, and portions of the Atlantic to limit supplies from reaching the US eastern shores.

If we get help from Japan and India... huge IF

Japan would refortify the Philippines to cut of Chinese shipping lanes, and India would split China's fighting force by attacking their southern region, and using the Central Asian force in a guerrilla type conflict. this is about as much detail as I am willing to provide on this side of the equation. but suffice it to say there are other moves available, in a conventional conflict.

in a limited nuclear exchange we can pretty much kiss the US West Coast goodbye, for China it would be a little more spread out numbers wise the US would lose roughly 30 million to about 150-200 million in China

full blown Nuclear we would be talking more along the lines of about 50-60 million survivors worldwide and expected conditions available to them.

And how would China get to the Americas ?

Cargo dragons.

The Russians have several divisions of polar bears and assault beavers.


chuckle
270110nli
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Post: #84
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
5 stars
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Post: #85
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
Spiddy  Wrote: (03-21-2017 12:18 AM)
Liberate it from who?
A significant number of North Koreans venerate Kim as a god.

Because they will come down with a sudden case of bullet to the head if they dont!
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Post: #86
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-21-2017 01:49 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-21-2017 12:55 AM)
Stop your arrogant rhetoric and end your GENOCIDAL sanctions of the NK people , stop flying around their borders with Nuclear capable Bombers and his defensive counter threats will STOP ! Dumbass's

Has no one ever seen an Octopus change colour when threatened, a Snake flatten out when threatened, or a Lizard open it's mouth or frill its mane when threatened ? This is all Kim's threats are, to try and stop the Crusaders from attacking them ! Just STOP ! S977

Crusaders?! As in Christian Crusaders? How about you stop with religious bigotry first and the only reason America is even in that region is to prevent Communist North Korea taking over the weaker South Korea by military force because that is what would happen if America left South Korea alone with the more militaristic and aggressive North Korea.

Firstly, I didn't say anything about Christians ! Secondly , it was YOU assholes who drove the wedge between the North and South in the first place,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, as usual !
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Post: #87
RE: Would you support a war to liberate North Korea?
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (03-21-2017 05:10 AM)
Falling Down  Wrote: (03-21-2017 04:26 AM)
And how would China get to the Americas ?

Cargo dragons.

The Russians have several divisions of polar bears and assault beavers.


chuckle

That's worse that I had suspected. I thought they were going to use Iranian UFO technology? But now were talking dragons !!! Scream1


The US already has one that recently lost an election and she's pissed off!!!

But fortunately we caught a break and she's cold blooded. Yup only comes out during the day . (She been spotted sunning in the woods) . Jhikpghf



Well I guess I will be dragon my ass out of this thread . chuckle

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