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Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:38 AM)
Liberalism: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights...."

Conservativism: "You have no rights unless you have citizenship status. The government gives you your rights."

Now that is the biggest crock of stupid horseshit Ive ever read.
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Post: #32
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:21 AM)
OP is wrong.

court refused cert., i.e., to hear the case

it did not rule like OP claims

it can't of it does not hear the case.
The attitude and ruling of the US Supreme Court seems unconstitutional to me according to this :

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights"
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Post: #33
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:38 AM)
Liberalism: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights...."

Conservativism: "You have no rights unless you have citizenship status. The government gives you your rights."

Now that is the biggest crock of stupid horseshit Ive ever read.
If that is what conservatives are saying, then they are clearly wrong.

It is not the government which gives you your rights, as according to their own constitution, you already have them AND they are unalienable - they cannot be taken from you.

This was a built-in security.
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Post: #34
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 04:51 AM)
All people have natural rights but the US Government is under no obligation to protect illegal aliens rights. Rather their legal obligation is primarily to deport them for violating federal immigration laws.

The movement of travel is a basic human right, but so is the ownership and transference of property. A healthy economy has a certain migration of workers between nations as specific skill sets become in demand.

But the problem with western economies is they offer a ton of welfare benefits. So you're not getting the ideal set of people for your economy. And as you dedicate (waste) more money to supporting a failing system the overall economy declines because you don't have the talent to increase productivity and pay for all the welfare.

It's delusional thinking that structured social systems are somehow inherently better or more moral or wiser than individuals acting of their own accord and free will.
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Post: #35
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
Here's the thing: the USA has created amnesty programs over and over and over and over and over because liberals made emotional appeals and even though conservatives knew that liberals' brains were as soft as cheese, the compassionate thing to do as Christians compelled us to agree.

So we did, and it didn't repair anything. You could argue that it exacerbated illegal immigration.

If people leave Mexico,or Honduras, or Nicaragua, etc then over time...since the discontent left, then those citizens of these countries failed to improve their situation.

In fact, a balanced analysis of refugee policy considers very seriously. The country they are leaving has a brain drain. If the USA wants to best help Mexico for example, the best solution is to prevent illegal immigration and to return people home.

It's important to consider the full ramification of limits to asylum seekers, work and education visas, and amnesty for illegal aliens.
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Post: #36
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:03 AM)
By the way, you obviously do not know process.

You know, standard Lawful operating procedure.

You just say "shut up"... lol

Your in the warehouse.....

You are f*cking insane BTW! Aren't you the guy whose making threads everyday about controlling celebrities and foreign dignitaries? Rofl

both of you dolts are unregistered,

both of you have zero credibility,

and because i am hard you will not like me, but the harder i am the more you will learn!
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Post: #37
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:38 AM)
Liberalism: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights...."

Conservativism: "You have no rights unless you have citizenship status. The government gives you your rights."

Now that is the biggest crock of stupid horseshit Ive ever read.

That was twisted around backwards, sideways, and then inside out. chuckle

I'm not even sure if it's worth explaining. chuckle
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Post: #38
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
Even incomplete analysis of out-of-country adoption can have very negative effects upon American orphans and harm the other country's future. What special needs children in America were not adopted by too broad an international adoption policy?

That will seem harsh to some of you, but you should contemplate what I am saying.
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04-20-2017 07:26 AM

 



Post: #39
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:19 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:16 AM)
Now that is the biggest crock of stupid horseshit Ive ever read.
If that is what conservatives are saying, then they are clearly wrong.

It is not the government which gives you your rights, as according to their own constitution, you already have them AND they are unalienable - they cannot be taken from you.

This was a built-in security.

Citizens of another country are not governed by the US constitution!

Why are you implying that inalienable rights include US citizenship for non citizens? Rofl

Are you dumb or daft?
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Post: #40
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:21 AM)
Here's the thing: the USA has created amnesty programs over and over and over and over and over because liberals made emotional appeals and even though conservatives knew that liberals' brains were as soft as cheese, the compassionate thing to do as Christians compelled us to agree.

So we did, and it didn't repair anything. You could argue that it exacerbated illegal immigration.

If people leave Mexico,or Honduras, or Nicaragua, etc then over time...since the discontent left, then those citizens of these countries failed to improve their situation.

In fact, a balanced analysis of refugee policy considers very seriously. The country they are leaving has a brain drain. If the USA wants to best help Mexico for example, the best solution is to prevent illegal immigration and to return people home.

It's important to consider the full ramification of limits to asylum seekers, work and education visas, and amnesty for illegal aliens.

that´s a drop in the bucket,

all of those cases are small numbers,

you have millions of undocumented aliens in the u.s.

eventually they will be taken out but it will take time,

in the meantime get used to checkpoints,

you will see them more often,

the police state is now in process,

and because i am hard you will not like me, but the harder i am the more you will learn!
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Post: #41
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
The ghost of capn´crunch  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:24 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:05 AM)
You are f*cking insane BTW! Aren't you the guy whose making threads everyday about controlling celebrities and foreign dignitaries? Rofl

both of you dolts are unregistered,

both of you have zero credibility,

Donald Trump is in the White House and we have not yet been killed by Yellowstone or methane.

You're 0 for 3 thus far, bro. Might want to lay off picking on the old kettle. chuckle
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Post: #42
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They don't have Constitutional Rights, but they have statutory rights against murder, like anyone else.
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04-20-2017 07:29 AM

 



Post: #43
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We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Illegal entry to the US seems to be missing from the official version.

Fekkin liberals Jptdknpa
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Post: #44
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:19 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:16 AM)
Now that is the biggest crock of stupid horseshit Ive ever read.
If that is what conservatives are saying, then they are clearly wrong.

It is not the government which gives you your rights, as according to their own constitution, you already have them AND they are unalienable - they cannot be taken from you.

This was a built-in security.

Not one word that you wrote has anything to do with what you claim is bolstered by liberalism. Liberalism (the modern version) is the antithesis of freedom and everything the Declaration (the document you cited) and the Constitution (NOT the document you cited) stand for. Those "unalienable rights" are life, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT of happiness. That doesnt mean we should allow illegal aliens who would refuse to integrate, assimilate and become Americans freelyncome here and leech off us and use our resources without paying for them. You liberals have a twisted idea about what freedom is.
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Post: #45
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there is going to be a draft soon,

it is coming,

that and the immigrant roundups will open up lots of jobs,

donnie did say he was going to creat jobs right?

so it is no surprise,

if you are between the ages of 18 and 27,

you are in the game,

and because i am hard you will not like me, but the harder i am the more you will learn!
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